Torquay thread
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Whilst we have such a dire lack of real attacking quality in our two starting central midfielders we are always going to struggle. At last maybe Leam has started to acknowledge it by subbing one of them today, late though it was. Amine has shown he is 4 times the footballer than either of them can ever hope to be. Get him started in the games coming up.
My two pence worth......
Positive's and Negative's for me today, so ill start with the Positive's.
Three games unbeaten is a big step forward considering how bad we had been playing up till the Cheltenham game last Saturday. Defensively we look alot better, Aldred in particular has done very well slotting into the side in Hughes absence. Hunt looks solid at Right Back, and has experience in abundance which I have no doubt is helping the rest of lads at the back. Linganzi looks the real deal to me, and yet again was impressive coming off the bench. He simply MUST start at Northampton next week. Boco again ran his socks off, but he didnt look fully fit to me??? Hatfield...... In 8 minutes, scored a goal which should have been given. Why on EARTH he is not given more game time I do not know????
Negatives....Unfortunately in our position a home draw is simply not enough. We need to be picking up 3, make no mistake the three home games in a week WILL make or break our season. Joyce really was appalling........ AGAIN. How on earth he is starting every game I really dont know, thank god at least Leam finally saw sense and took him off. Hopefully Hatfield comes in next week, he simply MUST be dropped, its as simple as that. Murphy was ineffectual in Midfield....... for the 500th time he is a defender!!!
BUT its 3 games without defeat and its something to build on. Luckily its 15 minutes for me to get to Northampton next week so ill be there to shout the lads on, that's for sure.
Positive's and Negative's for me today, so ill start with the Positive's.
Three games unbeaten is a big step forward considering how bad we had been playing up till the Cheltenham game last Saturday. Defensively we look alot better, Aldred in particular has done very well slotting into the side in Hughes absence. Hunt looks solid at Right Back, and has experience in abundance which I have no doubt is helping the rest of lads at the back. Linganzi looks the real deal to me, and yet again was impressive coming off the bench. He simply MUST start at Northampton next week. Boco again ran his socks off, but he didnt look fully fit to me??? Hatfield...... In 8 minutes, scored a goal which should have been given. Why on EARTH he is not given more game time I do not know????
Negatives....Unfortunately in our position a home draw is simply not enough. We need to be picking up 3, make no mistake the three home games in a week WILL make or break our season. Joyce really was appalling........ AGAIN. How on earth he is starting every game I really dont know, thank god at least Leam finally saw sense and took him off. Hopefully Hatfield comes in next week, he simply MUST be dropped, its as simple as that. Murphy was ineffectual in Midfield....... for the 500th time he is a defender!!!
BUT its 3 games without defeat and its something to build on. Luckily its 15 minutes for me to get to Northampton next week so ill be there to shout the lads on, that's for sure.
we started off very badly, very tentative against a team on a poor run. But from 20 mins or so we really bossed the game and if only there was a player capable of putting himself in the 18 yard box with some decisiveness we would have scored. would have, could have, should have. That may as well be our front line.
Second half was a bit more even but it goes down as points dropped I'm afraid.
A big plus is that we are not giving away dimb goals (for now) although I have to say I thought Hunt was very weak, always on the wrong foot and missing tackles.
So good in parts and bad in parts but the unbeaten run goes on. Everyone is looking at the 3 home games in a week to decide the season but every point is vital and that starts next week at Northampton
Second half was a bit more even but it goes down as points dropped I'm afraid.
A big plus is that we are not giving away dimb goals (for now) although I have to say I thought Hunt was very weak, always on the wrong foot and missing tackles.
So good in parts and bad in parts but the unbeaten run goes on. Everyone is looking at the 3 home games in a week to decide the season but every point is vital and that starts next week at Northampton
I thought we looked a lot better without Beattie. When he was on the pitch it was a matter of hoof the ball upfield in his general direction, after his departure they actually seemed to be looking for a man to pass to. Get shut of Winnard and Murphy and we might have a chance.
Stanley didn't play that well. But why that goal was ruled offside, I don't know. He looked onside from where I was stood.
Whilst I agree we should really be picking up points at home, but at least it was a point gained rather than none at all. But I agree with you and others on here, Linganzi must start and if necessary, take him off if he is knackered. Where has Podge gone though, not even on the subs bench?? Even though, well done to the team keeping Torquay out but boo to their keeper who I believe has kept us out. last time I looked it was 8 shots to 2 on target for Stanley!
To be fair they set up 4-2-3-1,and the 3 pressed us in possession,whilst the holding two screened and picked off our efforts to get the ball to our forwards feet.We played this system for over a season and drew numerous games and obviously Knill is a fan of it.
Like Tuesday,we were over run in central areas for twenty minutes until we tucked our wide men in.
Yerself seems to blame Murph and Dean for our current plight,interesting if he could enlighten us to his reasons.
My moan today is our front twos movement(or lack of it),if the ball player looks up,the strikers movement dictates the pass.
They challenged for the same ball on numerous occasions,Beattie just doesn't want to run beyond the challenge,simple as.
My other moan is the keeper,kicking poor,struggles to catch and won't come,all the back four were onto him on a number of occasions.
Positives,another clean sheet,Aldred and Deans performance against two/three good forwards.
Nicky Hunt solid and reliable and Bocco was excellent despite carrying a pull.
If we had a player like Howe,I would play Bocco off him all day long.
For those having a pop at Murph,I would love to see them play 5v2 in a 30m square,not easy,and a clean sheet suggests he did what was asked of him
Like Tuesday,we were over run in central areas for twenty minutes until we tucked our wide men in.
Yerself seems to blame Murph and Dean for our current plight,interesting if he could enlighten us to his reasons.
My moan today is our front twos movement(or lack of it),if the ball player looks up,the strikers movement dictates the pass.
They challenged for the same ball on numerous occasions,Beattie just doesn't want to run beyond the challenge,simple as.
My other moan is the keeper,kicking poor,struggles to catch and won't come,all the back four were onto him on a number of occasions.
Positives,another clean sheet,Aldred and Deans performance against two/three good forwards.
Nicky Hunt solid and reliable and Bocco was excellent despite carrying a pull.
If we had a player like Howe,I would play Bocco off him all day long.
For those having a pop at Murph,I would love to see them play 5v2 in a 30m square,not easy,and a clean sheet suggests he did what was asked of him
Nothing wrong with Gray's movement! He makes Beattie look like a statue. I don't think we can carry our ex England striker through most games on the off chance he might find himself with a free shot at goal. It's not enough to justify a start IMO, and surely we would be better off giving Carver a chance to put himself about from the start, with James on the subs bench? As for Murph, if, as you say, he did what was asked of him he is obviously not being asked the right questions. I appreciate that he is a battler, but is it too much to ask for less wastefulness in possession from a midfielder?
(Agree with the Beattie comment)
Things are not going for Leam & the team,
On the pitch what looked like a foul in the box given as a free-kick on the outside of the box, then what looked to me like a perfectly good goal being ruled offside.
Off the pitch, an abysmal attendance of 1197 coming after the super result away to Dale,
as for Stanley’s performance not brilliant but workmanlike, I thought we contained their danger man Howe very well, more of a threat was their No. 15 Bodin who I thought had an excellent game,
After today, I seriously think Leam should be looking at putting the captain's armband on somebody who actually deserves to wear it.
Joyce was an absolute waste of a selection today.....and he is the "leader" on the pitch???
He wandered around midfield looking like a little boy lost, ducked out of nearly every 50/50 ball, never put in any sort of telling tackle and his distribution was absolute garbage.
In the predicament we're in at the moment we need a captain who is an inspiration to those around him. Who will actually motivate those around him. Who will put in a shift and use the sort of effort required to win the battle. At the moment, Joyce doesn't tick any of those boxes.
Joyce was an absolute waste of a selection today.....and he is the "leader" on the pitch???
He wandered around midfield looking like a little boy lost, ducked out of nearly every 50/50 ball, never put in any sort of telling tackle and his distribution was absolute garbage.
In the predicament we're in at the moment we need a captain who is an inspiration to those around him. Who will actually motivate those around him. Who will put in a shift and use the sort of effort required to win the battle. At the moment, Joyce doesn't tick any of those boxes.
Very similar performance to Rochdale 1st half today, 2nd half a slight improvement.
Agree with earlier post that Aldred should have been MOM, and the whole back 4 did well.
We still struggle to create in midfield especially in the middle we play too many sideways and backwards passes instead of playing into Beattie and Grays feet, which leaves our front two fighting for scraps again. How many times today did we hump it up to Beattie who can't jump anymore and gray who to be fair puts himself about even though he's not the biggest. They both need better service
Linganzi has got to start, from the few appearances I've seen I've looks a class above any of our centre midfield players - I'd play him and Joyce.
Still positive we've got enough to avoid relegation if we dont get any key injuries
Agree with earlier post that Aldred should have been MOM, and the whole back 4 did well.
We still struggle to create in midfield especially in the middle we play too many sideways and backwards passes instead of playing into Beattie and Grays feet, which leaves our front two fighting for scraps again. How many times today did we hump it up to Beattie who can't jump anymore and gray who to be fair puts himself about even though he's not the biggest. They both need better service
Linganzi has got to start, from the few appearances I've seen I've looks a class above any of our centre midfield players - I'd play him and Joyce.
Still positive we've got enough to avoid relegation if we dont get any key injuries
Didnt go today, my mate did.
Said first half was dull, Torquay probably just shaded it and shoud have gone in ahead.
2nd half stanley improved and should have had a penalty.
His main concern was the managers persistance with the midfield which simply is not working.
Improvement needed but a welcome point.
Roll on Northampton.
Hopefully Exeter can do us a favour on Wednesday.
Said first half was dull, Torquay probably just shaded it and shoud have gone in ahead.
2nd half stanley improved and should have had a penalty.
His main concern was the managers persistance with the midfield which simply is not working.
Improvement needed but a welcome point.
Roll on Northampton.
Hopefully Exeter can do us a favour on Wednesday.
With the system they played we were out numbered at one point 5 to 2,that's why I have never been a fan of 4-4-2,it's nearly impossible to influence the game in there.Remember when we played with two holding players,the cbs split,the fullbacks pushed on and the keeper rolled the ball out to Joyce .
There forwards were also dropping deep to get on the ball and link play,did our forwards drop to help out?,answer NO !.
The goal was also two yards on side,the Lino made a really bad call,and I would like to see the pen claim again.
No ones mentioned the pitch either,tricky surface to play on,and both sides were struggling,it was a bobbly surface
There forwards were also dropping deep to get on the ball and link play,did our forwards drop to help out?,answer NO !.
The goal was also two yards on side,the Lino made a really bad call,and I would like to see the pen claim again.
No ones mentioned the pitch either,tricky surface to play on,and both sides were struggling,it was a bobbly surface