Torquay thread

Just watched the Football League Show that I recorded last night. :fire::fire::fire:
THE WILL HATFIELD GOAL WAS CLEARLY ONSIDE AND SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN DISALLOWED!!!. :thumbsdow:thumbsdow:thumbsdow
I was stood with my usual group in the Clayton End and even from centrally behind the goal we could not believe that he had been given offside! Having watched it on TV it is easy to see that as Hatfield comes into view the ball has left Rommy's foot by several yards and Hatfield is level with his marker just outside the penaltry box but the central defender, number 15, is a yard and a half inside the box, thus clearly Hatfield was ONSIDE. Add to this the clear penalty which we were denied earlier and we can consider that we were WELL AND TRULY ROBBED BY REFEREEING INCOMPETENCE!!:dummy2::dummy2::dummy2::dummy2:COLOR]
Having said that we didn't play all that well and we really failed to put together any decent passages of fluid football. Torquay were pretty innefective for all their possesion and their shots at goal were awful. I agree that Lingazi must start as he has much more physical presence and skill in midfield that we have lacked all season. Boco and Aldred were our best two players IMHO.
REFEREES AND ASSISTANTS..."YOU WERE WRONG ...WE WERE ROBBED!!!":dummy2::dummy2::dummy2::dummy2::COLOR]
IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN 2 - 0 TO US AND THREE POINTS!!!
It is difficult to accept somebody saying that the referees can make errors just like anybody can when our lifeblood as a Football League club is being sucked out of us by sheer incompetence like this!!:dummy2::dummy2::dummy2::dummy2::dummy2:COLOR=red]COME ON STANLEY...KEEP THE FAITH...IF WE HAVE TO BEAT A "TEAM OF 13" THEN WE WILL!!!:
 
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choirboy said:
Just watched the Football League Show that I recorded last night. :fire::fire::fire:
THE WILL HATFIELD GOAL WAS CLEARLY ONSIDE AND SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN DISALLOWED!!!. :thumbsdow:thumbsdow:thumbsdow
I was stood with my usual group in the Clayton End and even from centrally behind the goal we could not believe that he had been given offside! Having watched it on TV it is easy to see that as Hatfield comes into view the ball has left Rommy's foot by several yards and Hatfield is level with his marker just outside the penaltry box but the central defender, number 15, is a yard and a half inside the box, thus clearly Hatfield was ONSIDE. Add to this the clear penalty which we were denied earlier and we can consider that we were WELL AND TRULY ROBBED BY REFEREEING INCOMPETENCE!!:dummy2::dummy2::dummy2::dummy2:COLOR]
Having said that we didn't play all that well and we really failed to put together any decent passages of fluid football. Torquay were pretty innefective for all their possesion and their shots at goal were awful. I agree that Lingazi must start as he has much more physical presence and skill in midfield that we have lacked all season. Boco and Aldred were our best two players IMHO.
REFEREES AND ASSISTANTS..."YOU WERE WRONG ...WE WERE ROBBED!!!":dummy2::dummy2::dummy2::dummy2::COLOR]
IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN 2 - 0 TO US AND THREE POINTS!!!
It is difficult to accept somebody saying that the referees can make errors just like anybody can when our lifeblood as a Football League club is being sucked out of us by sheer incompetence like this!!:dummy2::dummy2::dummy2::dummy2::dummy2:COLOR=red]COME ON STANLEY...KEEP THE FAITH...IF WE HAVE TO BEAT A "TEAM OF 13" THEN WE WILL!!!:
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Agree with your post apart from the Cental defender who was playing hatfield onside it was thier No. 16 Angus MacDonald, No.15 was Bodin the attacking midfielder who I would have made M O T Match
 
Sorry guys, but unless you have "smart" TV's which show things outside the camera picture, the replay is inconclusive. At the moment Rommy hits the ball Will is not in the picture and only appears when the camera pans to follow the shot. Be honest, how many of us were watching Will when Rommy shot? Only those who were in line with the play can say whether he was offside or not. Where were you standing, Bernard Dawson?
 
Redraine said:
Sorry guys, but unless you have "smart" TV's which show things outside the camera picture, the replay is inconclusive. At the moment Rommy hits the ball Will is not in the picture and only appears when the camera pans to follow the shot. Be honest, how many of us were watching Will when Rommy shot? Only those who were in line with the play can say whether he was offside or not. Where were you standing, Bernard Dawson?
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I was stood in the whinney hill side where I always stand, just behind the linesman. It doesn't matter now. There not going to change it are they.
 
Redraine said:
Sorry guys, but unless you have "smart" TV's which show things outside the camera picture, the replay is inconclusive. At the moment Rommy hits the ball Will is not in the picture and only appears when the camera pans to follow the shot. Be honest, how many of us were watching Will when Rommy shot? Only those who were in line with the play can say whether he was offside or not. Where were you standing, Bernard Dawson?
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I was stood on the Whinney Hill side where I always stand. Just behind the linesman. It doesn't matter now. There not going to change it are they.
 
Looking at the still off twitter from Podge and what I saw on the football league show, we were certainly robbed of one goal, unfortunately, it does not show the alleged penalty incident.
 
We cant complain about us not getting a penalty - they had one denied where Murph slid through a bloke well after the ball was played but the Ref missed it because he had followed the ball
 
Two areas of consolation for LEAM !...

1. The consecutive clean sheets !!.....and

2. That six points only cover the bottom TEN Teams in League 2...

Do'nt these indicators also give us all some reason to take a more optimistic view of the current squad's ability to remain a part of The Football League....???.
 
Ignore that, just seen Dany Robson's tweet.

Bad news. Though I have 100% confidence in Aldred.
 
Leam needs to be given a little bit of credit,he could have easily ran with Bohan and Eckersley,but took a chance with Aldred and Linganzi as direct replacements.Anyone think it was a mistake?,I think it's a good decision,although I hope they come back with a bit of form under there belts.
I think Hatfield is just a victim of our system,good player,but were does he fit in?,for me his best position is just behind the front man and making late runs (Sean macc role!)
 
Bernard Dawson said:
I was stood on the Whinney Hill side where I always stand. Just behind the linesman. It doesn't matter now. There not going to change it are they.
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No, they are not, but that pic on twitter should be enlarged and pinned up in every ref's dressing room as the classic liner's mistake. What happened to the attacker being given the benefit of the doubt in close offside calls, or did I dream that one up? I blame the old gits near the Whinney Hill shed for giving the replacement liner abuse in the earlier penalty incident. Got his own back, didn't he, the swine?http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/images/smilies/biggrin.gif
 
Redraine said:
Ah.... that's better. We wuz robbed!
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Judging from that still we definitely wuz! I was watching Rommy, not Will, but he isn't even close to offside. I also believed then, and still do, that the penalty was a penalty - contact looked to be well inside the box ...... Anyone got a photo of that?
 
Personally I think Peter played very well yesterday. His positioning was good and he won the majority of his personal battles. He's employed as a ball-winner in midfield and I think he is doing well at it. He walks a line with his attitude on the pitch and he narrowly avoided red for a lunge yesterday afternoon, but you can't fault his commitment. He'll only get better at his midfield role as well which is promising.

Murphy's midfield partner Joyce did indeed have a stinker, and although I can empathise with the relief felt when he was substituted, some of the jeers around the ground were uncalled for. He's one of ours after all. He'll know he had a bad day at the office. I'd have Linganzi to start in his place next time out.

Overall I thought we played fairly well and though the resulting draw was unfair due to a painfully incorrect decision from the liner, we didn't deserve to come out rampant winners either.

We contained Howe effectively (Tom and Dean must take a great deal of credit for this) and rarely did their runners get behind our back four. The lack of confidence in the shaky Rachubka weirdly works well for us as the defenders think twice about their line. Paul has got to improve on his kicking and commanding though - for a player of his experience he has simply not been good enough. Bavs is back on the golf course and pushing to get back in before the season is out.

I have to agree that our movement needs work. This is epitomised in the lack of options available when we get a throw in the oppo half - we are a joy to defend against in these situations because the forwards don't move well enough. Once Linny is back I'd like to see Boco and Gray up front with Craig out wide. Gray is lively and has been a revelation in his short run of starting appearances, but can't rely on Beattie's scraps as these are too few and far between.

Lots of positives to take from the game (none moreso than the second successive clean sheet) but certainly more work to do to ensure we are safe from relegation.
 
100% agree with you Shaker,although I thought Rommy was worth a mention, just hope the pull he had hasn't got worse as he put a right shift in.
 
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