Tory Hypocrisy?

I think that you have called it right there Cashy. Hypocrisy is the word, plain and simple.

However, I do think that the Scots should be given a referendum on whether they want to remain a part of the UK. I agree with Cameron that it should be a simple in - out question. This idea of independence 'lite' can never work and will only serve to cause more resentment than there exists at present.

If the Scots want to go, let them, and good riddance to them.

As I posted some time ago, an out vote in a referendum will advance the cause of a referendum on England's membership of the EU, since all treaties will have to be renegotiated once the United Kingdom is no longer United.

If they vote to stay in the UK do you think the Scottish Parliament should be shut down? I do.
 
a waste of money in my eyes comic book politics a bunch of under raters coining it in.i hate the snp and all what it stands for ..united we stand divided we fall dinosaur politics by taking the country backwards instead of forwards..
 

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Hey, just think of the positives for Scottish Independence, 59 MPs would be made unemployed, 41 being Labour (which will no doubt please some people on this forum).

Personally, I'm in favour of Scottish Independence as I own shares in a flag making company.

And I also want independence for the North of England.
 
i think we should have a referndum to see if England wants to be a part of the UK or not :)

Seems to me just like been part of euorpe Englands primary job is to hand out free stuff to other countries.Maybe if we wernt part of the UK we wouldnt feel obiged to honour the UK's agreements and get the hell out of europe :D
 
If they vote to stay in the UK do you think the Scottish Parliament should be shut down? I do.
Think you spot on on Neil, its all well and good giving free this and free the other but if they actually said yes we want independence, most of them know, including Mr Salmon, that the gray train from Westminster would be derailed, and life up north would cease to be subsidies by tax payers from the rest of the UK. I have never understood how we can call our country the United Kingdom as we haven't been that since the onset of the welsh assembly and Scottish Parliament, if your United your all treated the same, which certainly isn't the case now
 
If cmonstanley is right and the result of any referendum would be to maintain the union, can we hope then the the Scots would drop the chipiness and the perpetual sense of victimhood?
 
If cmonstanley is right and the result of any referendum would be to maintain the union, can we hope then the the Scots would drop the chipiness and the perpetual sense of victimhood?

Doubt it. Hating the English is a national pastime north of the border. Its why we love them so much. and they will also still cheer on whoever England are playing against in World Cup matches. They are the rebellious teenagers of the family.

If they vote to retain the Union, it will be like the old saying.....

Can't live with 'em, can't live without 'em!
 
They do plan to wait till after Wimbledon before they decided, don't they?

Wouldn't like to have waited all my lifetime to see a British man win, only for it to be an independant Scotsman.

I'm betting on Murray this year now he's got Lendl as coach.:D
 
Interesting comment on the issue in the Telegraph and one that Call-me-Dave would do well to take notice of...

"I believe it's important for the English to have as little to do with this as possible, otherwise if it all goes pear-shaped it will all be our fault.
Let the Scots make the running"
 
They do plan to wait till after Wimbledon before they decided, don't they?

Wouldn't like to have waited all my lifetime to see a British man win, only for it to be an independant Scotsman.

I'm betting on Murray this year now he's got Lendl as coach.:D

Hope springs eternal, I suppose. But Monotonic Murray has about as much chance as Henman.
 
I wonder if any of you lot know the story of how the Jocks managed to get a couple of Panda bears shipped over to Edinburgh Zoo? I doubt if it is many of you, but it’s an interesting tale; to cut my typing short, I've stuck a few links in which give some of the detail.

Anyway, here we go. The Nobel Peace Prize, as you are aware, is awarded by a committee of five Norwegian parliamentarians (the other Nobel’s are awarded by the Swedes). Two years ago, the prize was awarded to the human rights campaigner, Liu Xiaobo. As you can guess, he's Chinese and his government were not exactly happy bunnies over this. So peeved off were they that they retaliated by effectively blocking the export of Norwegian salmon to China. Read about it here:

AFP: Norwegian salmon off the menu in China

The only other major supplier of farmed Atlantic salmon is, of course, Scotland. Now, you would have assumed that Scotland, being a good neighbour of Norway and sharing many of its maritime bounties, would have sought not to take advantage of this. There are, after all, certain principles at stake. But that is not quite what happened. Read on:

BBC News - Chinese appetite for Scottish salmon leaps

As part of the deal, Salmon got his Pandas.

Anyway, if there is a lesson to this story, it's this: Never thrust the Jocks - they are as morally bankrupt as they are financially and the sooner we have a referendum in England on whether to continue our union with them, the better. Lets end it now and the only question that will then remain will be how high we build the frontier walls to keep 'em out
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They do plan to wait till after Wimbledon before they decided, don't they?

Wouldn't like to have waited all my lifetime to see a British man win, only for it to be an independant Scotsman.

I'm betting on Murray this year now he's got Lendl as coach.:D
Na you've got that wrong mobertol, when he wins he's British when he loses he's just that useless jock:D
 
And British Embassies around the world would cease to promote Scottish products.
It may seem a pretty small knock, but it would still have an economic effect.
 
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