Town Council forms.

[garinda]

People generally want to know why things happen (or don't). All we can do is accuse without knowing right now. I don't think this is very productive.

Might as well strike while the iron's hot, and my typing finger's willing.

The whole story, of apparently vast swathes of the borough not receiving this important form, is newsworthy in my opinion.

Therefore an email has been dispatched alerting the press to this news, and a link this thread.

What they do with it is up to them, though in the past I've always found them to be very interested in stories that effect their readers.

 

[Gayle]

The problem is that they can't prove it can they. I mean, you've got one but I can't remember having one which doesn't actually mean i didn't get one.

 

[andrewb]

Might as well strike while the iron's hot, and my typing finger's willing.

The whole story, of apparently vast swathes of the borough not receiving this important form, is newsworthy in my opinion.

Therefore an email has been dispatched alerting the press to this news, and a link this thread.

What they do with it is up to them, though in the past I've always found them to be very interested in stories that effect their readers.

Well indeed, hysteria without explanation sells. I didn't think you were a Daily Mail man though.

 

[Gayle]

However, I do think that it was a very short consultation period.

BTW - I noticed the new Rishton sign today with the crest on. It no longer says Welcome to Hyndburn.

I wonder if this is just another way round the Accrington and Districts issue by phasing out Hyndburn gradually to the point where there's no point in arguing because it doesn't exist.

 

[katex]

BTW - I noticed the new Rishton sign today with the crest on. It no longer says Welcome to Hyndburn.

I wonder if this is just another way round the Accrington and Districts issue by phasing out Hyndburn gradually to the point where there's no point in arguing because it doesn't exist.

But what are the gateway signs to Hyndburn going to say Gayle ? Are they going to have boundary signs saying 'Welcome to Hyndburn', then 'sub-signs saying 'Welcome to Rishton, etc' ?

 

[garinda]

'A public consultation will be launched on Monday when the council will send letters to every home in the borough asking for comments.
Residents will be given two weeks to express their views.'

More power to the people? - News - Accrington Observer

As I personally did receive a form, and this matter only came to light when I mentioned it in passing, in relation to the borough name change being dropped, I do think this is an important matter, considering the changes that could come about because of the skewed findings of this half hearted consultation.

Anyone who hasn't received a form, and who wouldn't mind talking to the press, please pm me. All it would entail would be a verification of your name, and the fact you didn't receive a form.

Cheers.

 

[Gayle]

But what are the gateway signs to Hyndburn going to say Gayle ? Are they going to have boundary signs saying 'Welcome to Hyndburn', then 'sub-signs saying 'Welcome to Rishton, etc' ?

No, the gateway sign is what I'm talking about. it's been changed to Welcome to Rishton and has the new Rishton Crest on.

 

[garinda]

Well indeed, hysteria without explanation sells. I didn't think you were a Daily Mail man though.

Not hysteria, just dismay that important changes are currently being considered, using public feedback as a deciding factor.

Public feedback that isn't what it purports to be, that of the views of every household in the borough, which it blatently isn't.

 

[katex]

No, the gateway sign is what I'm talking about. it's been changed to Welcome to Rishton and has the new Rishton Crest on.

Not a gateway sign to the borough though Gayle ... Just to the town ?

We have always had signs 'Welcome to Hyndburn', then others to 'Clayton, etc' Do you mean they are not putting up new signs then for the actual borough ??

 

[katex]

Anyone who hasn't received a form, and who wouldn't mind talking to the press, please pm me. All it would entail would be a verification of your name, and the fact you didn't receive a form.

Cheers.

Well, of course, you know I have a bee in my bonnet about this one (not that I wear bonnets like) .. and no need to p.m. you, you know my name hun .. put at top of yer list.

 

[garinda]

Well, of course, you know I have a bee in my bonnet about this one (not that I wear bonnets like) .. and no need to p.m. you, you know my name hun .. put at top of yer list.

Thank you Kate x

If you pm me your number it would be appreciated. The paper normally likes to call you for a quote, and verification of the facts.

Promise not to give you a 'booty call' in the wee small hours.

 

[andrewb]

Not hysteria, just dismay that important changes are currently being considered, using public feedback as a deciding factor.

Public feedback that isn't what it purports to be, that of the views of every household in the borough, which it blatently isn't.

I have no issue with that. Only that you seemed to be blaming people earlier on when you have no idea who is responsible.

 

[garinda]

I have no issue with that. Only that you seemed to be blaming people earlier on when you have no idea who is responsible.

Who have I blamed?

The council has said in the press they are currently considering an important issue, with public feedback as a guide, from every home in Hyndburn.

This hasn't happened.

This is not about your stupid party politics, this is about gross incompetence..whoever is to blame.

 

[BERNADETTE]

Pm sent if the council are claiming they sent a form to everybody it should have been sent irrespective of whether they were filled in.

 

[garinda]

Pm sent if the council are claiming they sent a form to everybody it should have been sent irrespective of whether they were filled in.

Cheers Bernie.

 

[cashman]

I have no issue with that. Only that you seemed to be blaming people earlier on when you have no idea who is responsible.

what a load of garbage, reading the link to the obsever that rindy posted, it don't take interpol.

 

[andrewb]

what a load of garbage, reading the link to the obsever that rindy posted, it don't take interpol.

You must know something the rest of us don't then. We all know the council said they were sending forms out to everyone. I want to know why everyone hasn't got them. I'm not going to go blaming the council when I have no idea if they are the ones responsible though.

Garinda your argument is weak, party politics? What has that got to do with anything?? As for who you've blamed, you constantly refer to the council and suggest that a shambles is what you expect of them.

I'm more open minded and waiting to cast judgement until we find out the reasons and who is to blame.

 

[katex]

I have no issue with that. Only that you seemed to be blaming people earlier on when you have no idea who is responsible.

Will endorse what Garinda has said Cyfr sweetheart .. we are just trying to find out why we did not all get these forms as promised .. I was particularly interested in this issue as stated in other threads, and just disappointed did not receive one... and definitely didn't

Can't blame anyone yet, as don't know, just waiting for feedback from various sources.

 

[garinda]

You must know something the rest of us don't then. We all know the council said they were sending forms out to everyone. I want to know why everyone hasn't got them. I'm not going to go blaming the council when I have no idea if they are the ones responsible though.

Since this important proposal is currently under consideration, using the findings of the returned forms, and the return by day has now passed for any other feedback to be considered, who is to blame is not the point.

The point is the feedback is flawed, with the vast majority of residents unable to give their opinion.

The point is the council said in the press that every household would be sent a form.

The point is many people, the vast majority according to our small poll, never received a form.

 

[andrewb]

Will endorse what Garinda has said Cyfr sweetheart .. we are just trying to find out why we did not all get these forms as promised .. I was particularly interested in this issue as stated in other threads, and just disappointed did not receive one... and definitely didn't

Can't blame anyone yet, as don't know, just waiting for feedback from various sources.

Definitely. Completely agree that you should follow this up, you're doing a huge favour to anybody else who wanted to let their views be known but didn't have the chance.

I just have issue with people trying to play the blame game before we actually know what's what, but it seems you're not doing that, you're simply after a voice. A voice which you rightly deserve!