Transdev and Timetables

WillowTheWhisp said:
In what context? The company used to be a privately run company called Accrington Transport. It was taken over by Transdev but is still known as Accrington Transport (but part of Transdev). At no time was it ever anything to do with Accrington Corporation Transport or ever called Hyndburn Transport. Just clarifying that to avoid any possible confusion.
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That seems to be a Garinda interpretation.
To avoid any possible confusion. A bus company bids for a particular route and has to carry out the restrictions and regulations for the running of the service.
Lancashire County Council for Hyndburn are responsible for the running of bus services and the protection of revenue for the area.
Inspectors for the particular companies and for Lancashire County Council are authorised to board any subsidised buses and check that that all the regulations are carried out to the letter of the contract.
Just to clarify the situation to avoid any possible confusion I am fully aware of the situation regarding de-regulised transport and I am willing to give you a lesson anytime.
 
If I may just clarify the situation (with respect), Accrington Corporation Transport Department became the Borough of Hyndburn Transport Department in the late seventies, and then on the 26th October 1986 became Hyndburn Transport Limited in line with the deregulation of public transport bill (1985). It was then that things started to go downhill as it ceased to be a public service but instead had to show a profit, some routes were subsidised by Lancashire County Council in the evenings but this was eventually removed and this was the start of the shambles of a bus service that you have today in Accrington, as it is now if you wish to travel out in the evenings or Sundays you have either to take a cab or walk, you certainly can't catch the bus thanks to Mrs Thatcher and her followers.
 
Royboy39 said:
That seems to be a Garinda interpretation.
To avoid any possible confusion. A bus company bids for a particular route and has to carry out the restrictions and regulations for the running of the service.
Lancashire County Council for Hyndburn are responsible for the running of bus services and the protection of revenue for the area.
Inspectors for the particular companies and for Lancashire County Council are authorised to board any subsidised buses and check that that all the regulations are carried out to the letter of the contract.
Just to clarify the situation to avoid any possible confusion I am fully aware of the situation regarding de-regulised transport and I am willing to give you a lesson anytime.
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You can give me as many lessons as you like dear. That is not what I was talking about. I was referring to the ownership of the company which owns the buses which trundle up and down Ormerod Street. The buses are now owned by Transdev and the bus drivers are employed by Transdev. In different areas of the country the different subsections of Transdev are still 'trading' under the name of the company which Transdev took over/bought out. So although driver A's employer may be Transdev , the bus may have a Transdev and/or an Accrington Transport logo on it and if you want to phone them up regarding the Fern Gore bus you do not look up 'Transdev' in the phone book. You look up 'Accrington Transport' because that is what they are still known as for this area.

I do know all about subsidised routes and bus inspectors thank you but that has nothing to do with any of this. Accrington Transport was never at any time anything to do with ACT or Hyndburn Transport Ltd any more than Fraser Eagle has anything to do with Wallace Arnold!
 
Ernie said:
If I may just clarify the situation (with respect), Accrington Corporation Transport Department became the Borough of Hyndburn Transport Department in the late seventies, and then on the 26th October 1986 became Hyndburn Transport Limited in line with the deregulation of public transport bill (1985). It was then that things started to go downhill as it ceased to be a public service but instead had to show a profit, some routes were subsidised by Lancashire County Council in the evenings but this was eventually removed and this was the start of the shambles of a bus service that you have today in Accrington, as it is now if you wish to travel out in the evenings or Sundays you have either to take a cab or walk, you certainly can't catch the bus thanks to Mrs Thatcher and her followers.
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Gordon Brown and his numpties in the government have had almost eleven years to rectify the situatiion and they, in their wisdom, have decided to make waves by regulation to make matters worse.
Pensioners have to show bus passes to qualify for reduced fares.
I don't see any problems with passes for students. In fiscal terms, that is how the councils subsides the bus routes.
Timetables are submitted by the bus companies to the licensing authority and are subject to approval before any changes are made.
Bus companies don't, and have never carried passengers for free.
How Frazer Eagle and Wallace Arnold got in there I'm not sure but if they are running school buses on subsidised routes, they too have to comply.
Private company 'Accrington Transport' not an issue really?
 
I was using Fraser Eagle and Wallace Arnold as an example of two companies I was sure you would realise had no connection with each other - by way of illustration. How is it not an issue? If I wanted to complain about a bus driver for some reason then I would need to contact his employer and his employer (if he was driving a Fern Gore bus) would be Transdev still contactable under the ID of Accrington Transport for this particular area. If it was for another area then it would come under Lancashire United. Both are actually Transdev but there is no point in contacting the Lancashire United branch if it's about a Fern Gore bus because they have nothing to do with the Fern Gore buses.

Do you understand me yet? The two are owned by Transdev but operate separately.
 
I understood you first time round.
I have just added more points to your post tally.
 
willow your not the only one who is peeded off with trensdev I whent to blackburn a few weeks ago now an decided to go to wightburk to check out the price of a computer when i got back to the bus stop the timetable said the bus was due at 22 mins past the hour so i wated but no bus came down but 5 bus's went up.
 
We have been going to Manchester each Saturday for the last 4 weeks....the first 3 weeks we caught the 8.53 at the Hare and Hounds X41 straight through...no need to change at Accy.
Last week we went up for the bus, same time as usual...no bus.
it seems that the bus route for X41 has now changed and it comes from Blackburn.........there was no notice of this on the bus the previous week(one way of notifying service users - and a good way..much more likely to see it).
There was it seems, some information in the local papers...but I didn't see it.
So we stood there like a pair of Lemons until gone 9am and got on the bus to Accy...then into the big queue for a SINGLE decker.
I was not impressed.
 
you may not have rossendale transport for long the way transdev are going about things, I'v been told by a friend in lancashire of mine that that works for them, that transdev are tryin to buy out all the bus companys in this region.
 
I finally got to the bottom of this timetable malarky. The times of the Fern Gore buses have NOT changed.

This means that the bus which went past the stop at the back of our house was LATE (or early depending on which one it was meant to be.) Looks like Transdev were trying to pass the buck.
 
Nori Brick said:
you may not have rossendale transport for long the way transdev are going about things, I'v been told by a friend in lancashire of mine that that works for them, that transdev are tryin to buy out all the bus companys in this region.
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now to me this is a good thing (to others it may not be) i know if i buy a bus pass/day pass i can use it on several different buses in several different towns because Transdev own them.
When i go upto my sisters on Willows lane i know i can get a bus ticket for the day that gets me from my house in Blackburn, into Accy and then on the bus upto Fern Gore and back again and it only costs me £4 and i can use it all day going wherever i want within Darwen, Blackburn and Hyndburn (this is called a £4 spot on ticket)
With the more expensive £6 day passes you can even go to Burnley and Manchester.

now to me that has to be an improvement on the transport system we used to have?


i know on Rossendale transport these tickets for the day only cost £3.50 but you have more scope with Transdev and the buses are newer
 
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why? with rossendale rovers you can go to bury, blackburn, rochdale, manchester, accrington, haslingden, rawtenstall, bacup, ramsbottom.
Copied from rossendale transports own website - their fleetlist is given and
Fleet Size 108
Average Fleet age 6.87

Transdev does not have a fleet list for either blackburn or burnley or accrington so i dont know if their buses are newer.
 
I missed off Burnley and Bolton as well where you can visit with Rossendale Transport on your £3.50 ticket.

Bernie think its only transdev buses you can use it on.
 
Was just wondering because there is a map showing where it can be used to ie Rising Bridge, Hyndburn Bridge, Redcap etc will make enquires tomorrow.
 
shillelagh said:
why? with rossendale rovers you can go to bury, blackburn, rochdale, manchester, accrington, haslingden, rawtenstall, bacup, ramsbottom.
Copied from rossendale transports own website - their fleetlist is given and
Fleet Size 108
Average Fleet age 6.87

Transdev does not have a fleet list for either blackburn or burnley or accrington so i dont know if their buses are newer.
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you cant get to Manchester on them anymore Jen and they have also stopped that bus that used to go through Loveclough to Burnley, its run by stagecoach now :( i must admit that i use Rossendale rover tickets quite a lot when i'm going to Bury, we stop off every so often and go to a park, i was really naffed off that Rossendale transport doesnt do the loveclough bus anymore because i wanted to show Reece where i used to live and the only way RT go to Burnley now is through Water and it takes ages
 
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