Ufo's

Now you are getting into the realms of fantasy.

If anyone has come back from the future sooner or later one of them would commit the ultimate paradox. One of them would alter the time line that would eventually lead to the none birth of the person committing the paradox. So he couldn’t come back and alter the time line because he didn’t exist. And if he didn’t exist there would be no one to come back and alter the time line.

There are undoubtedly strange goings on in our skies and our government, at least, must know something. Otherwise why keep the UFO files locked away for 30 years?

What you say about the paradox of time travel is correct.

It doesn’t rule out future technologies allowing it to be a possibility though. It may not be so fanciful after all.
 
Edited to appologise that the same post has happened twice, maybe its UFO's or just the fact that the Internet in Cotonou, Benin (near Nigeria) is naff. Back to Casablanca in the Morn
 
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Sorry, but I have don't believe we are being buzzed by Aliens.
Firstly they have no idea we are here,according to SETI, very few of our radio and tv transmissions will have escaped into space and although they travel at the speed of light they get weaker the further they go and will eventually get drowned out by the background electromatic radiation caused by the 'big bang'.
Okay so now we have space craft that have left the planet and now solar system, such as Voyager, are not that far out of our solar system
Then there is the small question of interstellar travel, being able to travel at the speed of light is one thing, but traveling such distances is another matter.
Why if there are such life forms do they not get in contact with us?
Why not land in Hyde Park?
I am not saying that the universe is devoid of life, just I don't beleive in UFO's
Any radio frequency above about 40 MHz will pass through the ionised layer surrounding the earth and continue forever into space unless it hits a solid object and gets reflected back or is scattered.

Voyager sends back pictures from several million miles away and it sure won’t have a super powerful transmitter like we have back on earth, yet we get the pictures. Some of our radio and TV transmitters are rated in mega watts feeding an omni directional aerial. Some of those radio waves will undoubtedly travel direct into space and some will get bounced off the earth and buildings and carry on into space. Whether anyone has picked them up and deciphered them is another matter. But then we pick up radio signals from outer space and so far haven’t been able to decipher them, if there is anything to decipher. If you built a VHF receiver that was able to pick up the AM frequencies you would ‘hear’ the silence of the carrier wave but not the sound modulating it. Mr A. Lien may not know about FM and AM so he won’t be able to decipher the signals and put them down to random radiation. Just like we do.
 
Well I would not know that much about radio waves, really. I was going off what SETI said and seeig they want to find aliens......
I only have a VHF/HF/AM ICAO Radio Licence, for transmitting, like all pilots. We do not know the in's and outs as we don't need to, I leave that toi the Hams.
 
Some ten years ago on a bright summer’s afternoon I was walking my dog. The skies were clear without a single cloud to be seen. There was no haze so the visibility was excellent.

Suddenly I became aware of a very loud sound like that of low flying jet fighter coming from the north. Within three or four seconds the sound disappeared to the south. I followed the sound with my eyes all the way but saw absolutely nothing. Even my dog stopped and looked up. On that day I estimate that I could have seen well over 50 miles in any direction. So this sound could travel some 100 miles in a few seconds.

It could have been a military jet flying at faster than mach 1 and the aircraft was out of sight before the sound arrived but there was no sonic boom.

I wrote to the Telegraph to describe the incident and one person responded by saying that she had heard the same at the same time whilst watching the cricket match at Rishton but like me, saw nothing.
Ten years ago at the time they where test flying what is now known as the RAF Typhoon so no doubt that is what you heard as it is the fastests an crapest pkain in the RAF
 
Ten years ago at the time they where test flying what is now known as the RAF Typhoon so no doubt that is what you heard as it is the fastests an crapest pkain in the RAF
That was my first thought when I heard it and judging from the level of noise it had to be low enough to be seen very easily. Yet there was nothing to be seen.

I have seen low level mock attacks against my ship many times and then I could see and hear the plane some ten seconds before it passed overhead. As lookout it was my job to spot it. Can’t think why because we had radar that could do it better than I ever could.
 
Might have been a SR71.... thay stopped flying them around 10 years ago, and could have gone over the UK. Also sound does carry especially when you are at 40K feet plus?
 
Might have been a SR71.... thay stopped flying them around 10 years ago, and could have gone over the UK. Also sound does carry especially when you are at 40K feet plus?
Are you trying to say that a plane at 40,000 feet can be heard on the ground?

In that case all the vapour trails that I see daily and not a whisper of sound must be coming from planes on the edge of space.
 
years ago when I was working along the 'tap-line' in Saudi Arabia you used to be able to set your watch (around noon time) by the Concorde going over from Bahrain to London , the speck in the sky had disappeared to the north -west by time you heard the 'boom' .

thread wander ....once heard a story that the Concorde was built on the same jigs as the scrapped TSR2 , seems unlikely , but possibly the wings had some similarity since they were both designed and built near Bristol , (Filton? /Fulton? )
 
years ago when I was working along the 'tap-line' in Saudi Arabia you used to be able to set your watch (around noon time) by the Concorde going over from Bahrain to London , the speck in the sky had disappeared to the north -west by time you heard the 'boom' .

thread wander ....once heard a story that the Concorde was built on the same jigs as the scrapped TSR2 , seems unlikely , but possibly the wings had some similarity since they were both designed and built near Bristol , (Filton? /Fulton? )
Its Filton steeljack, I was actually working in Filton Bristol when Concord made its first test flight, when it was taking of there were road barriors which closed much like a level crossing, it was a truely great sight watching this majestic plane take off, just like a huge white bird
 
Just a thought on UFOs when you think of the vastness of the galaxy it would be very starnge if we were the only forms of life, there must be something out there somewhere, wether they are like us or are little geen men is anybodies guess:confused:
 
years ago when I was working along the 'tap-line' in Saudi Arabia you used to be able to set your watch (around noon time) by the Concorde going over from Bahrain to London , the speck in the sky had disappeared to the north -west by time you heard the 'boom' .

thread wander ....once heard a story that the Concorde was built on the same jigs as the scrapped TSR2 , seems unlikely , but possibly the wings had some similarity since they were both designed and built near Bristol , (Filton? /Fulton? )
Yes but that were the sonic boom you heard not the engines.

What I heard was a very loud engine noise that could only come from a low flying aircraft, no sighting and no sonic boom if it was going so fast (mach1 +) to have come, been and gone before the engine noise arrived.
 
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