Aye, they're the gimpy kid that wants to hang out with the big boys & the big boys let him only to amuse themselves & torment when they're bored. Utterly useless party, but the new kid on the block looks to be a different prospect.
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Aye, they're the gimpy kid that wants to hang out with the big boys & the big boys let him only to amuse themselves & torment when they're bored. Utterly useless party, but the new kid on the block looks to be a different prospect.
Its surprising that even when they're getting on in years and probably involved in politics too, people haven't sussed that the colour flying over town halls is usually the opposite to the one flying over Westminster, can't remember it being any different nor will it ever changeAnd the platitudes begin..
Labour ..'our gains prove the public believe in One Nation, we don't have any real alternative, but hey, we won tons of seats'....
Translation...we got 30% of the vote...3 out of 10 want us and only 2 out of 10 want the tories, lets ignore the logic that 5 out of 10 don't want either of us'
Tories...'we're giving the people what they want, they just don't realise it yet, but they will by 2015'
Translation..'cor blimey guv, we've been rumbled, lets screw them for another year then lie to them in the 12 months leading up to the election'
Libdem..'we are still the 3rd party in lancashire because we have 6 seats from 6% of the vote'
Translation....erm, UKIP got 14% and no seats, guys maybe proportional representation aint the way to go after all'
You know they made smoking in pubs illegal, smacking your kids illegal, kicking terrorists out of the country illegal..yet they still manage to make a voting system where the majority are totally ignored legal
The only gains in Thursdays poll was that new party who won countless councils that new party is NOC
yer quite correct its as though any elected council is a protest council
so labour council you may be feeling popular with the people of hyndburn right now but in reality your only there because the torys are screwing up so bad and vice versa when torys are in power lol
Its the underlying threat from Thursdays vote, But yeh seem as bad as cmon at not grasping it.The only gains in Thursdays poll was that new party who won countless councils that new party is NOC
Cashy I've seen it all before, it used to be the Liberals then the Lib/dems, now UKIP, at a general election they won't get anywhere near the 24% they got on Thursday, believe me, I'll bet you a penny stick of spanishIts the underlying threat from Thursdays vote, But yeh seem as bad as cmon at not grasping it.
Oh but i reckon they will actually get as many,if not more, so Raise yeh some kali?Cashy I've seen it all before, it used to be the Liberals then the Lib/dems, now UKIP, at a general election they won't get anywhere near the 24% they got on Thursday, believe me, I'll bet you a penny stick of spanish
What yer not taking into account,in the past people used to believe the main parties.
Your on PalOh but i reckon they will actually get as many,if not more, so Raise yeh some kali?
Despite the evidence of the polls in Lancashire that 5 out of 10 people (of the 3 out of 10 people that actual voted in this unfair and outdated electoral system) do not want either Labour or Tory anywhere near our county council...here's the official Labour self serving smug gloat!
Lancashire County Council Elections 2013 - Hyndburn - YouTube
I could swear there were at least 10 people cheering these disproportionate victories.
Unfortunately, Jones and his cronies will continue to crow like this because the voting system is so heavily weighted against the ordinary man in the street. Things have to change, they fudged the proportional representation referendum by making it so complex that nobody in their right mind would vote for it and pushed the idea back 20 years. (Mark my words they will do the same with the EU referendum).
Lancashire County Council Elections 2013 - Hyndburn - YouTube
I could swear there were at least 10 people cheering these disproportionate victories.
Unfortunately, Jones and his cronies will continue to crow like this because the voting system is so heavily weighted against the ordinary man in the street. Things have to change, they fudged the proportional representation referendum by making it so complex that nobody in their right mind would vote for it and pushed the idea back 20 years. (Mark my words they will do the same with the EU referendum).
if its one person one vote then the winner should be who gets the most votes
i dont see how that can be made more simple
all anything else does is defeat the idea of 1 person 1 vote
mind you as soon as any party gets in within 2 years they chop and change boundaries etc
this current lot want to abolish hyndburn alltogether which until we get a different MP is as good as done anyway because he sure as hell isnt representing us when it comes to the EU and ensuring we get our democratic rights
i dont see how that can be made more simple
all anything else does is defeat the idea of 1 person 1 vote
mind you as soon as any party gets in within 2 years they chop and change boundaries etc
this current lot want to abolish hyndburn alltogether which until we get a different MP is as good as done anyway because he sure as hell isnt representing us when it comes to the EU and ensuring we get our democratic rights
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Your democratic rights my friend are what your (supposed) political betters decide they are! Now shut up in the cheap seats & finish your gruel!
Your democratic rights my friend are what your (supposed) political betters decide they are! Now shut up in the cheap seats & finish your gruel!
gruel ?
ill have you know i am a british citizen born and bred,white and live up north
how dare you insinuate i can afford gruel
gruel ?
ill have you know i am a british citizen born and bred,white and live up north
how dare you insinuate i can afford gruel
Gruel...Gruel!!! Luxury lad, luxury
Monty Python - Four Yorkshiremen - YouTube
gruel ? and live up north
Yes Gruel! You ain't far enough north to be a porritchwog, so you get porritch light ..... gruel! Now shut up & eat up or some nasty politico will come & have it away from you, you ungrateful peasant!
I like some of the stuff UKIP talk about
simplifying the tax system (combining tax and NI whch is a tax anyway).
Leaving the EU
I dont know about any of their other policies but what puts me of voting for them is the current voting system of first past the post which means where I live, Labour win regardless and all the other votes are wasted.
simplifying the tax system (combining tax and NI whch is a tax anyway).
Leaving the EU
I dont know about any of their other policies but what puts me of voting for them is the current voting system of first past the post which means where I live, Labour win regardless and all the other votes are wasted.
I voted fer em in the locals last week, n will continue to do so, until the major parties take note of what those who vote fer em want, simple as. I dont think the other votes are wasted davo, if enough people vote UKIP, (They will not come to power) the other parties will be forced off the pot.
Thing is that the Labour party are believing their own spin doctors who are saying that all UKIP voters are former Tory voters. A simple cross section of people who post on this website would show this to be a fallacy.
Milliband still has his head firmly up his own rear, (he'll probably bump into the Jones boy if he pokes around a bit while he's there). On Wednesday as a commons vote on the 'disappointment that the possibility of a referendum wasn't mentioned in the queens speech' will be crushed by the bully boy tactics of this little plastic schoolboy and his gang of whip thugs. He spouts nonsense about Cameron not being able to control his party. Tell you what, it's Milliband thats showing his true colours here....he and his party are adamant that they will not bow to the general publics opinions, he and his party think they can trick the general public with platitudes about maybe, perhaps and who knows, we happenstance may not rule out a future referendum at some point, maybe, perhaps, in the future.
Anyone who votes for a party that treats its electorate like unthinking buffoons, that claims it knows best despite overwhelming evidence of the opposite.....is an absolute moron!
The Labour party are currently less democratic than Franco was, even the party slogan of 'One Nation'....'ein reich, ein volk' anyone????
I keep seeing posts about UKIP being a 'one trick pony'....the only 'one trick pony' is the current Labour party, their policy/manifesto is simple...whatever the Tories say, we'll say the exact opposite.
The media like to label people as left, right or central in their political views...thing is every single one of us has views that fall in each camp. Labels are so 20th century, only career politicians and lazy journalists use them. They use them so that they can describe the electorate and pigeon hole us according to their view of our values.
We are free thinkers, we can make judgements based on evidence and research, we can decide how our country should be run. We don't need platitudes, pigeon holes, red top scandals or spin. We have a voice and its need to be listened to.
The only way to make ourselves heard is to continue to give them bloody nose after bloody nose at the ballot box until they start to listen!
Milliband still has his head firmly up his own rear, (he'll probably bump into the Jones boy if he pokes around a bit while he's there). On Wednesday as a commons vote on the 'disappointment that the possibility of a referendum wasn't mentioned in the queens speech' will be crushed by the bully boy tactics of this little plastic schoolboy and his gang of whip thugs. He spouts nonsense about Cameron not being able to control his party. Tell you what, it's Milliband thats showing his true colours here....he and his party are adamant that they will not bow to the general publics opinions, he and his party think they can trick the general public with platitudes about maybe, perhaps and who knows, we happenstance may not rule out a future referendum at some point, maybe, perhaps, in the future.
Anyone who votes for a party that treats its electorate like unthinking buffoons, that claims it knows best despite overwhelming evidence of the opposite.....is an absolute moron!
The Labour party are currently less democratic than Franco was, even the party slogan of 'One Nation'....'ein reich, ein volk' anyone????
I keep seeing posts about UKIP being a 'one trick pony'....the only 'one trick pony' is the current Labour party, their policy/manifesto is simple...whatever the Tories say, we'll say the exact opposite.
The media like to label people as left, right or central in their political views...thing is every single one of us has views that fall in each camp. Labels are so 20th century, only career politicians and lazy journalists use them. They use them so that they can describe the electorate and pigeon hole us according to their view of our values.
We are free thinkers, we can make judgements based on evidence and research, we can decide how our country should be run. We don't need platitudes, pigeon holes, red top scandals or spin. We have a voice and its need to be listened to.
The only way to make ourselves heard is to continue to give them bloody nose after bloody nose at the ballot box until they start to listen!
