Ukip

the one thing labour voters who want out of the EU have to be wary of is that it may be possible that their local MP will say he will vote for what his supporters want to gain votes then crap on them at the very first opportunity once elected

i know its very unlikely to happen but if it did that MP would have to have some balls to try and get away with it twice

hence why i dont think any MP would be dumb enough to crap all over his constituants in the first place
 
I like some of the stuff UKIP talk about

simplifying the tax system (combining tax and NI whch is a tax anyway).
Leaving the EU

I don't know about any of their other policies but what puts me off voting for them is the current voting system of first past the post which means where I live, Labour win regardless and all the other votes are wasted.

I quite agree. We had the chance to (start) making changes to our voting system with the AV referendum but bottled it when the big 2 campaigned against 'cos it would upset their cosy club. So if we really want some change the only option is to vote in huge numbers for an alternative. I will vote UKIP in future and hope we make an impact. (Wouldn't it be funny if Lab/Con decided THEY would like to change the voting system!:tongueout)
 
I keep seeing posts about UKIP being a 'one trick pony'....the only 'one trick pony' is the current Labour party, their policy/manifesto is simple...whatever the Tories say, we'll say the exact opposite.

I ask again - How many Tory actions that Labour have loudly criticised, will they reverse if they get into power at the next Election? Perhaps one of our local politicians will answer as I can't see our MP doing so

I don't know if Mr Ed has stated which way his MPs will vote if there is a vote on the referendum this coming week - pretty certain that our MP will follow his leader and not his electorate.
 
I don't know if Mr Ed has stated which way his MPs will vote if there is a vote on the referendum this coming week - pretty certain that our MP will follow his leader and not his electorate.

graham jones has already voted against us having our democratic right to a referendum on the EU

merely a matter of weeks after saying he would vote in favour of our rights

im sure folk rmember that as i keep reminding them of what he did just incase :D
 
I ask again - How many Tory actions that Labour have loudly criticised, will they reverse if they get into power at the next Election? Perhaps one of our local politicians will answer as I can't see our MP doing so

I don't know if Mr Ed has stated which way his MPs will vote if there is a vote on the referendum this coming week - pretty certain that our MP will follow his leader and not his electorate.
The simple answer is they won't Barrie, did they repeal trade union legislation, not a chance, infact underneath Labour support most things the Tories introduce but haven't the bottle to bring them in themselves at risk of cutting of their union financial backing altogether.
 
The simple answer is they won't Barrie, did they repeal trade union legislation, not a chance, infact underneath Labour support most things the Tories introduce but haven't the bottle to bring them in themselves at risk of cutting of their union financial backing altogether.

Actually the simple answer has been given before, no such thing as the Labour Party anymore, only the new Tory party masquerading as new labour.
So of course this pile of she-ites won't overturn what is done by their parent party!
:D
 
I keep seeing posts about UKIP being a 'one trick pony'....the only 'one trick pony' is the current Labour party, their policy/manifesto is simple...whatever the Tories say, we'll say the exact opposite.


That is an interesting point, you should put up a poll on here for people who voted ukip to choose which party they usually vote for
 
well i used to vote labour no questions asked until graham jones took over from gregg pope but despite my reservations i voted for him .One of the big factors in me voting for him was him saying he would support a referendum on the EU.

well we all know how that worked out so now im with UKIP until a new labour candidate is put forward for hyndburn because this current one is duff
 
If there ever was a time to leave the EU it is now - sharpish !

Not according to our beloved MP on twitter a few hours ago...

'Problem with Cameron's EU opt out menu is it will target working people's pay & conditions, food safety, the environment & b soft on crime.'

Notice how he throws out the usual Labour party line scaremongering without offering a shred of evidence to back it up. Let me help him with some evidence...

a) Working peoples pay and conditions.....Yep, they'll improve because we will no longer have to provide employment to the great influx of EU cheap labour which drives down pay and conditions for everyone.

b) Food safety...yep, they'll be able to make Dundee cake in Eccles and Eccles cake in Dundee with impunity, and if we need the EU to ensure our food safety, why do we have a Food Standards Agency?

c) The environment..hmmm, are you saying that our own government cannot be entrusted to maintain our environment, what are we paying you people for?

d) Soft on crime.....you mean like the poorly worded Human Rights Act that is so open to abuse, or the European Court of Justice that stops our own government from deporting known terrorists?

The problem isn't Cameron's opt out menu..it's MP's who refuse to listen to their constituents and blindly follow their plastic schoolboy leader to political suicide like lemmings off a cliff face.
 
out of curiosity does anyone have a rough idea how much money we have sent to bail out various countries like ireland and greece.

been in the EU seems to mean look after everybody esle but our own and screw your own to look after others
 
Cameron has stated speaking in the US that the majority of British people don't want to leave the EU, yes they do dickhead, why wait until 2017 to give the people a say, it doesn't matter how much the EU is reformed it still won't cut the mustard with me, Cameron wants to pull his head out of his arse and listen to the people now not wait another 4 years to get the same answer he'd get now, GET OUT NOW:mad:
 
I thought exactly the same when i heard him John. Think he needs to ask a differant set of people to do his checking for him, or maybe just open his eyes and ears. :confused::confused::confused:
 
I thought exactly the same when i heard him John. Think he needs to ask a differant set of people to do his checking for him, or maybe just open his eyes and ears. :confused::confused::confused:
He's a politician Alan the only time they pretend to listen is around 5 weeks before an election, and I mean that at all levels, they're now scratching their collective heads wondering WHY the number of people bothering to vote is dwindling and I think the old saying is spot on if voting changed anything they'd abolish it. If I hadn't a PV I wouldn't go to the polls, even so at the last general election I submitted a vote paper which I'd spoiled, there just wasn't a candidate worth voting for
 
I see the G8 are going to discuss a "USA / EU trade & investment pact". I thought you needed money in order to invest? If so then they are going to have to invite China to join.
 
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