viaduct suicide

I feel that suicide is a very selfish act. I have known people that have done it, 1 that failed and 1 that ,well, diddn't. I saw first hand what they were going through and I feel that there is always a better answer. To put friends and family through all that pain and heartache is, like I said, selfish.

This is just MY personal opinion.
 
I knew a spinster who had terminal cancer and committed suicide.
She had only one living relative - a brother.
She inflicted no pain by doing it- she saved herself a lot of pain, and she was selfless by not wishing to be a burden on her brother.
No two suicides are the same, either in their reason or the after effects.
 
If someone has a mental health problem so serious that they consider jumping off a viaduct, what makes anybody think they have even considered the fact that they are holding up traffic, or inflicting emotional damage on thier next of kin, it is a mental health problem, ie, the brain isnt functioning correctly, they are devoid of the ability to make a rational judgement, they likely dont even realise to the full extent that they may kill themselves by jumping, so, what part of 'the person doesn't understand the implications of his actions', do some not understand?
 
Margaret Pilkington said:
No, indeed, you have answered my question perfectly.
I do hope that in your life you never have the misfortune to suffer from mental illness, or for that matter have someone you love suffer from mental illness. You assume that this person was just a time waster, because he made you waste some of your time.
You know nothing of the facts of the case or the situation that this person was in.
PBWY
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Sounds like he already is Margaret
 
my friend died of mental health problems but his death was labeled as suicide.

he thought he was a yo-yo and threw himself off a viaduct

i seriously dont think he intended to kill himself :(
 
By the time someone has got to the stage of being suicidal they aren't even thinking about their own wellbeing let alone those they would leave behind.
I too used to think it was a selfish and cowardly act, I have been enlightened on the subject and now view it differently; most " cries for help" are managed so they will be just that, someone bent on suicide isn't thinking that far ahead.:(
 
lindsay ormerod said:
By the time someone has got to the stage of being suicidal they aren't even thinking about their own wellbeing let alone those they would leave behind.
I too used to think it was a selfish and cowardly act, I have been enlightened on the subject and now view it differently; most " cries for help" are managed so they will be just that, someone bent on suicide isn't thinking that far ahead.:(
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erm....sorry but if they are bent on suicide there isnt a 'ahead':rolleyes:
 
lindsay ormerod said:
By the time someone has got to the stage of being suicidal they aren't even thinking about their own wellbeing let alone those they would leave behind.
I too used to think it was a selfish and cowardly act, I have been enlightened on the subject and now view it differently; most " cries for help" are managed so they will be just that, someone bent on suicide isn't thinking that far ahead.:(
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well said Lindsay
 
I know people who have comitted suicide and people who have contemplated suicide, its clear that rational thought is no longer in it, they need a way out and cant see any other option
 
Let me clarify, I'm niether for nor against suicide, it's causing maximum disruption to the wider community that winds me up... if somebody wishes to end it all then do it somewhere appropriate ...
I knew a guy whoo did the deed in a Hotel room, result was he was discovered by a kid of a chambermain who was probibaly on around a fiver an hour trying to scrape a living together to survive, now it's her we should feel sorry for.

P.s. to Margaret, yes I do have a relative with a mental illness, mad as a box of frogs actually.

"Tazzer the Muppets "
 
I didn't realise that suicide was something that you could be 'for' or 'against'.
As far as I'm concerned it is a very sad fact of life. Some people cannot see any other way out of their problems...and what I find sad is that they feel they cannot talk to anyone or make someone understand their dispair.

Obviously, you don't share those feelings and your attitude to your relative with mental illness is very glib. PBWY
 
i agree with suicide and some dont so yes you can be for and against it i suppose

archiveuk is correct when he says people set on commiting suicide should dispose of themsleves in a manner that dosnt leave a mess for somone else to tidy up and mentaly scar that person for life like some poor train driver or truck driver who somone has thrown themselves infront of

there are different situations to suicide , somone topping themselves because they lost their job for instance is a damn coward but somone who tops themselves rather than suffer a long drawn out illness which will inflict enourmous amounts of pain with no hope for a cure is in my eyes justified
 
accyman said:
i agree with suicide and some dont so yes you can be for and against it i suppose

archiveuk is correct when he says people set on commiting suicide should dispose of themsleves in a manner that dosnt leave a mess for somone else to tidy up and mentaly scar that person for life like some poor train driver or truck driver who somone has thrown themselves infront of

there are different situations to suicide , somone topping themselves because they lost their job for instance is a damn coward but somone who tops themselves rather than suffer a long drawn out illness which will inflict enourmous amounts of pain with no hope for a cure is in my eyes justified
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no mate, where hes wrong n you is some are not "set" on commiting suicide, summat just snaps inside their head n they go do it, which is exactly what happened with my workmate who jumped off the viaduct, was having a laugh n joke wi him the afternoon before, he was fine a good bloke to work him, ya cant say someone whose head goes should do this or that, they are oblivious to any reason n its tragic fer everyone.
 
with accrington having such a good launchpad right in town center im surprised we dont get ques of goths and imo's waiting to jump ,sadly this is not the case :rolleyes:
 
Archiveuk, you still dont grasp it do you?, I used to work with a bloke who was a gentle giant, strong as an ox, do anything for anybody, some guys used to wind him up about his missus, who was a good looking nurse, he was having a bad time with his work too, nothing going right for him, he snapped and killed himself in his car with a hose through the window from the exhaust, whilst locked in the garage, I dont for a second think that he realised the possibility that his much loved 10 year old son would find him dead, suicides DO NOT REALISE what they inflict on other people, it is not a consideration for them, they do not intentionally inconvenience others.
 
accyman said:
not familiar with that particular internet/text comment?

what is it lol

edit:

it appears on all your posts but it does look like your final word on a matter when you finish making some comments lol
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PBWY........Peace Be With You

Automatic catholic response.....AAWY... And Also With You :D:D:D
 
Thank you for explaining that emamum.......it saves me from having to do it.
Not all posts will carry this little message...only those that I feel need it...and I think this one does.

by the way, mine is not really religious, more spiritual, just linked to karma(no not the Karma on here, my own karma).
 
derekgas said:
Archiveuk, you still dont grasp it do you?, I used to work with a bloke who was a gentle giant, strong as an ox, do anything for anybody, some guys used to wind him up about his missus, who was a good looking nurse, he was having a bad time with his work too, nothing going right for him, he snapped and killed himself in his car with a hose through the window from the exhaust, whilst locked in the garage, I dont for a second think that he realised the possibility that his much loved 10 year old son would find him dead, suicides DO NOT REALISE what they inflict on other people, it is not a consideration for them, they do not intentionally inconvenience others.
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Well said.
My brothers wife committed suicide because she couldn't have a baby.
It was all she ever wanted, to raise a family......she could not live with the overwhelming grief she felt at being as she put it 'barren'.......she didn't jump off a bridge, she just took the pills when she knew my brother was going to be away from the house all day, wrote a note apologising for being a trouble, and then lay down and died. She was a lovely girl but her mind was tortured.
You are right Derekgas....they do not intentionally inconvenience others....they just want out of this life that is so painful to them.
 
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