Whitebirk planning application.

Regarding the changes at Whitebirk retail park.

  • I support the changes.

    Votes: 9 34.6%

  • I think the changes will mean the town centre will suffer.

    Votes: 17 65.4%
  • Total voters
    26
cashman said:
answer to why ? cos as you clearly stated you are for the thing- yet say you are unable to vote, thats clear as mud.:p i agree entirely the town centre is dead in its present format, but i think with this it will be buried,the suggestions A-Bob, made have much merit, but who the hell can honestly say the trust HBC to push hard to obtain them?
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Because I agree with both statements on the poll. So whilst I support the changes I also think that it will affect the town centre. I can't vote for either as I think either are actually correct.
 
garinda said:
Since you are no longer sitting on the fence (:D), which buildings would you knock down?
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The logical places to me would be to knock down the block that is a sort of triangle to the right of the bus station - one side of Peel St (the Peel Chemist side) across to Blackburn Rd and up to Abbey St. I would then develop that into a better bus station, central square and large market.

This would then open up the route to Warner St and that side of town better and would create far more opportunities for the rest of the the town than those little shops have in that area. Sorry if you own a shop in that area but you've got to be cruel to be kind. :D
 
mick said:
Getting back on topic Garinda
you really need transport to get to Whitebirk retail park.
i dont think there is a bus service there and back so i only go when i can get a lift.
if there was a bus service i would use it more often.
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thats my main gripe its ok for me i have a car, many have not, straying a bit this is the mentality Thatcher created in people.
 
Gayle said:
The logical places to me would be to knock down the block that is a sort of triangle to the right of the bus station - one side of Peel St (the Peel Chemist side) across to Blackburn Rd and up to Abbey St. I would then develop that into a better bus station, central square and large market.

This would then open up the route to Warner St and that side of town better and would create far more opportunities for the rest of the the town than those little shops have in that area. Sorry if you own a shop in that area but you've got to be cruel to be kind. :D
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Wow! If I've got you right there Gayle are you including the Baptist Church and the telephone exchange?

We did have a big space in the center of town - it had the old market in it before they got turfed out and that Wilkinson's block got built. I could have thought of better ways of developing that area than building shops which to this day have never been fully occupied all at the same time.

As for the bus station, again we had more room for buses before half of it was comandeered for the market.

The market is now squished into an area far too small and the buses are crowded into a 'bus street' where they don't all fit.


No, I never got a questionaire but I don't think I'd have voted in favour. Even if there was a regular bus service I want to be able to do my shopping in the town not several miles outside. I find it annoying enough to have to go there for the white goods and PC World. In fact I specifically didn't go there for the last 'white goods' purchase but used a local shop in Ossy.

Even Hebden Bridge has lost some of the character that it used to have but it's far more interesting than Accy - it also has an open river running through the middle and some cute little bridges over it. Hint, hint.
 
Just out of interest, how many people actually shop in Accrington on a regular basis, and I don't mean just driving into the carpark at ASDA once a week?
 
garinda said:
Just out of interest, how many people actually shop in Accrington on a regular basis, and I don't mean just driving into the carpark at ASDA once a week?
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go in a couple of times a week at least.very rarely go asda
 
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katex said:
Well, the council has now granted a contract to a company of Planning Consultants to submit plans to redevelope the town centre and surrounding areas at a huge fee, so will just have to be patient and see what is afoot.
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There you go Katex now you know whats a foot:D
 

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WillowTheWhisp said:
Wow! If I've got you right there Gayle are you including the Baptist Church and the telephone exchange?

We did have a big space in the center of town - it had the old market in it before they got turfed out and that Wilkinson's block got built. I could have thought of better ways of developing that area than building shops which to this day have never been fully occupied all at the same time.

As for the bus station, again we had more room for buses before half of it was comandeered for the market.

The market is now squished into an area far too small and the buses are crowded into a 'bus street' where they don't all fit.


No, I never got a questionaire but I don't think I'd have voted in favour. Even if there was a regular bus service I want to be able to do my shopping in the town not several miles outside. I find it annoying enough to have to go there for the white goods and PC World. In fact I specifically didn't go there for the last 'white goods' purchase but used a local shop in Ossy.

Even Hebden Bridge has lost some of the character that it used to have but it's far more interesting than Accy - it also has an open river running through the middle and some cute little bridges over it. Hint, hint.
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Yes, that's the area that I'm including. The Baptist Church could stay I suppose as it's just on the edge of the area that I'm talking about. I'm sure they've got the technology to move the telephone exchange.

It'll never happen though - bold ideas always get diluted!

I got a questionnaire regarding the development but I didn't fill it in. One reason was that I'm pretty sure it was during the elections and didn't want it to be a vote decider either way.
 
My mum goes into Accrington every day but I do my supermarket shopping online and only go into Accrington when I'm off work.I use the shops and facilities in Ossy more,on a weekly basis.
 
What about this:
Send the people who run Accrington market to Whitebirk for six monthe and when they cock it up as they usually do people might come back to Accy?
 
katex said:
I also find the remark from a spokesman representing Peel a little ambiguous .. "no evidence to support the claims that harm will be brought to Accy town centre as a result of this application" No evidence ? (what is it based on then :rolleyes:).. then what no evidence do they have that harm will notbe brought to our centre by this application then !! Think I got that right.

Is it me ?
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Sorry I joined this thread late katex, I think the spokesman is trying to say, "there is no evidence that Peel Holdings will take money off town centre shop keepers and put in their pockets" I think.:confused:
 
WillowTheWhisp said:
I sometimes think the newspaper polls don't give people enough info to see the cons alongside the pros.
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It would be interesting to know how many people voted in the Observer's poll.You can't really use the Accyweb poll to guage the general consensus of opinion because only 16 people have voted on that one.
 
Lilly said:
It would be interesting to know how many people voted in the Observer's poll.You can't really use the Accyweb poll to guage the general consensus of opinion because only 16 people have voted on that one.
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Of course you can, it's just as valid as the Observer one, maybe even more so, as opposed to the Observer one we can see where people live.

I wonder how many of the staff at Peel Holdings voted in the Observer poll, since they seem to set so much store by the results of such polls?:rolleyes:
 
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