Whitebirk planning application.

Regarding the changes at Whitebirk retail park.


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What if Peel Holdings pulled out and closed the site down, HBC would loose out then big stile.
Looks as though our 'councillors'(butchers, bakers & candle stick makers) know better than the professional planners (who said yes to the application) :confused:

Will our Councillors also vote yes to a planning application for an industrial site, to the south of the whitebirk retail park, an industrial site that could affect the lives of residents living on Windsor road Knuzden
see page 23 Accrington Observer Friday 22nd June.
 
What if Peel Holdings pulled out and closed the site down, HBC would loose out then big stile.
Looks as though our 'councillors'(butchers, bakers & candle stick makers) know better than the professional planners (who said yes to the application) :confused:

Will our Councillors also vote yes to a planning application for an industrial site, to the south of the whitebirk retail park, an industrial site that could affect the lives of residents living on Windsor road Knuzden
see page 23 Accrington Observer Friday 22nd June.


They won't pull out. They'll carry on renting out units, selling the goods they are allowed to sell.
 
They won't pull out. They'll carry on renting out units, selling the goods they are allowed to sell.
I would not be to sure about that, the whole site is looking a little tatty and in need of refurbishment.There is a lot of wasted empty space on there.
 
Are there empty units? I didn't notice last time we were there - tend just to go into the place I'm aiming for and then come home.
 
Are there empty units? I didn't notice last time we were there - tend just to go into the place I'm aiming for and then come home.
The one next to Comet, used to be Scottish Power, is that not empty as is one further along that side. Then look on past those units there is a lot of space not used.
 
I've never noticed. Like I said, I just tend to make a bee-line for where I'm going and then come back again. Is that overgrown land type space past those units?
 
Yes, I think the retail site extends back up to the Canal, there is some other industrial land identified on HBC's borough plan, but the plan is a little out of date :rolleyes:
 
Let's hope common sense prevails, and they loose their appeal, it makes no sense to move your retail base to another town. We have no decent white goods outlet in the town centre since they were allowed to retail them at Whitebirk, this would have been the beginning of the end of the rest of them. What about the choices of the citizens without transport or access to the internet, they deserve the benefit of competitive retaling as well.
 
excuse me for being "Dumb" seen it mentioned quite a few times now, but WHAT the hell is white goods?:confused:
 
I wouldn't bet on it.

Well, in the meantime, our councillors have got to try really hard to attract one mainstream retailer .. ok .. gotta' be Next I suppose, where there is one of these, others will follow.

Might have to take some type of 'lost leader' to dangle the carrot, but convinced it would work.
 
I don't think the salvation of our town centre would be a NEXT store.

Few random thoughts.
If we were unable to attract the big names these are what I would do -
concentrate on nearby housing - there are some but not many houses in the town centre - if there were better flats and accomodation much more centrally then you'd get a better economy there. As it is the houses closest to the town centre are some of the worst in the area.

Where people are there is money - so improved evening facilities like restaurants - not just fast food places. I can only think of one restaurant roughly in the centre.

Attractions - there is no reason to come into the centre in the evening unless you're a drinker.

Obviously, not just concentrating on the evening culture but I've said it many times - specialist shops - not NEXT and the like but boutiques, delis, art shops etc. As it is at the moment NEXT won't come but they'd be in like a shot if the town had something special to offer.

Making it attractive - by that I mean the roads into the town as well. If someone was coming by bus the route in has to look good. Look immediately out of the centre and the majority of routes in are run down. I know there's work going on Blackburn Rd but all the routes need looking at.

There needs to be better controls about what sort of shop fronts are allowed - i.e. no back lit signs, no garish colours, all in keeping with a certain style - even the big boys curb their usual garish styles when they're in upmarket towns.

Finally, policing - by bringing more houses/flats into the centre you'd have an automatic police force twitching their curtains. But you need more of a presence during the days as well so that trouble is moved on or stopped before it's started. Get the message over loud and clear.

Oh, and clamp down on chewing gum and litter.
 
Open up the green areas too and have a nice family orientated picnic type area where people can just sit and relax. I've visited some lovely places which have specialist shops and a nice attractive area just to sit and enjoy the trees, grass, birds, stream etc. We could have that too.
 
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