Wiki Leaks

setayas said:
When they have a big release of material, the place I always try first is;

//mirror.infoboj.eu/

normally works a lot faster than Wleaks
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Love your picture - Rex and Fluff as well, ask Mez about Rex, he used to stop the Ribble bus, so she didn't have to run as fast to catch it.:D
 
When the Israelis took out the Iraqi nuclear power station they overflew Saudi - and then complained that the hazard lights on the 40T2 radar at Tabuk were not working.
 
Barrie Yates said:
When the Israelis took out the Iraqi nuclear power station they overflew Saudi - and then complained that the hazard lights on the 40T2 radar at Tabuk were not working.
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Seem to remember when the Tabuk radar/ tracking stuff was upgraded it was installed 180° out (North being South and South being North ) caused a bit of a flap for a few hours . :D :D
 
Ir's been hard, the past couple of days, to avoid hearing and reading lots about the leaks. But, really, is there anything in them which surprises anyone? It's just politics without the PCism that politicians spout in their public announcements.
 
The info revealed by Wikileaks is limited to what whistleblowers have revealed.
It is mainly focused on the devious dealings of the government of the USA, because their sloppy security allowed vast numbers of military personnel computer access to that info.
Wikileaks does not comment or draw conclusions from the info supplied.
It just exists to publicise the info which has been revealed.

We should not conclude that the info represents 'all there is to know', since those revelations are just the tip of an iceburg of secret dealings.

Maybe it will encourage more whistleblowers to reveal what they know, which is a good thing to happen. A true democracy should not have secrets.
 
Neil said:
Don't be silly.
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So you think that politicians have the right to lie?
Here's one who didn't - maybe it was the reason for his assassination which happened a few weeks later.

Transcript of speech that President John F. Kennedy gave at the Waldorf-Astoria Hotel on April 27, 1961

"The very word "secrecy" is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and secret proceedings. We decided long ago that the dangers of excessive and unwarranted concealment of pertinent facts far outweighed the dangers which are cited to justify it. Even today, there is little value in opposing the threat of a closed society by imitating its arbitrary restrictions."

"For we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that relies on covert means for expanding its sphere of influence--on infiltration instead of invasion, on subversion instead of elections, on intimidation instead of free choice, on guerrillas by night instead of armies by day. It is a system which has conscripted vast human and material resources into the building of a tightly knit, highly efficient machine that combines military, diplomatic, intelligence, economic, scientific and political operations."
 
At the end of the day what will it bring ? And are we really surprised at the depths of some of these "Scandals".That we're more aware of the deceit & lies so we'll trust them even less than we do now ? Think the trust of the public is already there. No I don't see any great changes, perhaps a reshufle of the most embarrassing proponents but that's it. You & I won't have any more money in the bank, we won't have more jobs or food on the table from it all, just more seething resentment.
 
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