Wiki Leaks

So you think that politicians have the right to lie?
Here's one who didn't - maybe it was the reason for his assassination which happened a few weeks later.

Transcript of speech that President John F. Kennedy gave at the Waldorf-Astoria Hotel on April 27, 1961

"The very word "secrecy" is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and secret proceedings. We decided long ago that the dangers of excessive and unwarranted concealment of pertinent facts far outweighed the dangers which are cited to justify it. Even today, there is little value in opposing the threat of a closed society by imitating its arbitrary restrictions."

"For we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that relies on covert means for expanding its sphere of influence--on infiltration instead of invasion, on subversion instead of elections, on intimidation instead of free choice, on guerrillas by night instead of armies by day. It is a system which has conscripted vast human and material resources into the building of a tightly knit, highly efficient machine that combines military, diplomatic, intelligence, economic, scientific and political operations."

so are ya saying john f kennedy was as honest as the day is long? utter ballcocks, or did he just tell the truth in that instance?:rolleyes:
 
so are ya saying john f kennedy was as honest as the day is long? utter ballcocks, or did he just tell the truth in that instance?:rolleyes:
You have previously said that JFK lost credibilty with you because of his marital infidelities.
No-one can be aware of the status of a marriage unless you are in it.
Since Jaqueline Kennedy's death, facts have come to light that indicate that she was aware of his promiscuous lifestyle and she was indulging in infidelity herself.

If the integrity of a politician is dependant on a monogamous marriage then few politicians can be deemed to have any integrity.
 
You have previously said that JFK lost credibilty with you because of his marital infidelities.
No-one can be aware of the status of a marriage unless you are in it.
Since Jaqueline Kennedy's death, facts have come to light that indicate that she was aware of his promiscuous lifestyle and she was indulging in infidelity herself.

If the integrity of a politician is dependant on a monogamous marriage then few politicians can be deemed to have any integrity.
balls its either "Truth or Lies" aint selective.;)
 
These WikiLeaks could be the non-event of the decade. I'm reminded of Comet Kohoutek.
 
So you think that politicians have the right to lie?
Here's one who didn't - maybe it was the reason for his assassination which happened a few weeks later.

Transcript of speech that President John F. Kennedy gave at the Waldorf-Astoria Hotel on April 27, 1961

"The very word "secrecy" is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and secret proceedings. We decided long ago that the dangers of excessive and unwarranted concealment of pertinent facts far outweighed the dangers which are cited to justify it. Even today, there is little value in opposing the threat of a closed society by imitating its arbitrary restrictions."

"For we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that relies on covert means for expanding its sphere of influence--on infiltration instead of invasion, on subversion instead of elections, on intimidation instead of free choice, on guerrillas by night instead of armies by day. It is a system which has conscripted vast human and material resources into the building of a tightly knit, highly efficient machine that combines military, diplomatic, intelligence, economic, scientific and political operations."
Margaret, Margaret, politicians don't lie they just bend the truth double:D
 
The nearest I'll get to a Canadian is a Canadian Club with dry ginger mate:D

If you must use ginger in it at least use a decent one Jays, "Crabbies" springs to mind :D Just ask the Spugster, he'll explain ! ;)

And as to Canadian Club what are Wiki-leaks saying about that, that it isn't proper Whisky :eek: Well everyone knows that already :s_spit:
 
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If you must use ginger in it at least use a decent one Jays, "Crabbies" springs to mind :D Just ask the Spugster, he'll explain ! ;)
Used to work behind a bar in the 70s and everyody drank CC with DG, anyway I'm not Crabbie, I'm very even tempered really:D
 
The nearest I'll get to a Canadian is a Canadian Club with dry ginger mate:D

Canadian Club:eek: Dishwater. Crown Royal:mosher: Forty Creek, even better. Canadian Club, and Canada Dry Ginger Ale are both owned by you Brits. Ironically, when our unruly neighbours decided to kick the crap out of Iraq and were boycotting Canadian products because we thought it was a crappy idea, two of the things they wouldn't buy were CC and CD.:rolleyes:
 
I'm, begining to think all/some of this wiki leak stuff has been engineered by Bill Clinton ..... Lots of folks upset at the US. , Hillary does the 'right' and honourable thing, takes responsibility (though not actually involved , stuff was done under her name) and falls on her sword ,and resigns . Now she is out of Govt. she is free to set up a challenge to Obomba in 2012 for the nomination. ;) :D
 
I'm, begining to think all/some of this wiki leak stuff has been engineered by Bill Clinton ..... Lots of folks upset at the US. , Hillary does the 'right' and honourable thing, takes responsibility (though not actually involved , stuff was done under her name) and falls on her sword ,and resigns . Now she is out of Govt. she is free to set up a challenge to Obomba in 2012 for the nomination. ;) :D

Hilary v Sarah....that would make an entertaining cat fight.
 
If all this about leaked documents is true, how come the keepers of these documents didn't notice they were missing.
Surely these moles would have been discovered before now.
Its a hell of a lot of paper work to carry around, then suddenly release all in one go, or is it another of those conspiracy do's like Roswell and the one about Armstrong never went to the moon. Haven't read any of it, apart from what I've read on here, to me its a load of cobblers, some folk will believe owt.

Retlaw
 
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