Windows Eight

Win8 has already been hacked by the bootkit announced at Malcon last year. It will be interesting to see how the final retail version pans out considering that it's security has already been compromised.
My personal concern is that it might not support dual booting with non-MS OS's. I'm pretty sure there'll be a workaround for us linux users that still have to put up with legacy MS bloatware just to run one or two specific non linux supported app's.
As always, remain vigilant regarding your online security by not visiting sketchy sites (especially following links in spam, don't do it!), and harden your firewall and AV defences especially if you are visiting darknet sites, or certain IRC channels. hint: Proxy chaining FTW.
 
skuta said:
Win8 has already been hacked by the bootkit announced at Malcon last year. It will be interesting to see how the final retail version pans out considering that it's security has already been compromised.
My personal concern is that it might not support dual booting with non-MS OS's. I'm pretty sure there'll be a workaround for us linux users that still have to put up with legacy MS bloatware just to run one or two specific non linux supported app's.
As always, remain vigilant regarding your online security by not visiting sketchy sites (especially following links in spam, don't do it!), and harden your firewall and AV defences especially if you are visiting darknet sites, or certain IRC channels. hint: Proxy chaining FTW.
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If linux is so good you wont need to use pesky Microsoft products will you :p
 
Neil said:
If linux is so good you wont need to use pesky Microsoft products will you :p
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There's very little if anything that suits everyone completely. There's things I like about both OS's. It just so happens I've found my requirements sit consistently around linux based systems, with a couple remaining on the Windows side. I would prefer it though if I had everything on the one side to save me the switching when I need to use a particular piece of software. Oh well! Look on the bright side, I didn't come on here ranting about how great Mac products are! ;)

(Not that there's anything wrong with those either mind you).
 
The vast majority of people who use computers know very little about operating systems......not anywhere near enough to make informed decisions.
They have 'grown up'(and I mean that in the technical sense rather than the chronological sense) with Microsoft products and find anything else slightly alien to them....I think this is definitely true of the older end of computer users...we(I include myself in this because I fit into that category) prefer to use what we know....what we are used to......because we don't know any different.
Computers arrrive ready for use with an operating system.....and while you sound very computer savvy and could probably adapt any computer you owned to an operating system that you feel is safer/more acceptable/fits the bill....while we can't do that.....because we do not know how to.

Pesonally, I am just grateful if the darned thing works when I switch it on.
 
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Margaret Pilkington said:
Pesonally, I am just grateful if the darned thing works when I switch it on.
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That is something we all feel Margaret.

I could adapt my computer to run both Windows and Linux, but I choose not to.
I use windows7 because it's convenient and once antivirus and other security are in place have no problems.
As a choice for work I use a Macbook.
For some strange reason people often get fixated and even evangelistic about the operating system they use, all I can say is if that rocks your boat then use it but don't look down your nose on what others choose to use, lifes too short and the rest of us do seem to manage.
Anybody remember about three years ago the servers for AccyWeb were hacked by some Dutch idiots?Just because they could? Closing all the sites Roy was running for about a week which OS was he using at the time, well, it wasn't Windows, it was that state of the art heavily secure you just can't beat it, Linux. If they want to ruin things for others they will do no matter what system you use.
So if your happy with Windows use it, if you enjoy the ease of use of a Mac, use it, if you wish to spend your time with Linux then use it, but don't criticise others for their choice of operating system.
All that does is show you have a very narrow vision of what computing is about.
 
Margaret Pilkington said:
The vast majority of people who use computers know very little about operating systems......not anywhere near enough to make informed decisions.
They have 'grown up'(and I mean that in the technical sense rather than the chronological sense) with Microsoft products and find anything else slightly alien to them....I think this is definitely true of the older end of computer users...we(I include myself in this because I fit into that category) prefer to use what we know....what we are used to......because we don't know any different.
Computers arrrive ready for use with an operating system.....and while you sound very computer savvy and could probably adapt any computer you owned to an operating system that you feel is safer/more acceptable/fits the bill....while we can't do that.....because we do not know how to.

Pesonally, I am just grateful if the darned thing works when I switch it on.
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Totally agree with that Margaret,know a bit more with joining P C for Seniors but got a bit to expensive.Don't have it any more.
 
maxthecollie said:
bring back XP
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Why ? where's it gone, I still have it, & use it to store, and process all my pictures of WW1.
All my main work is in a computer that still runs on DOS 6, and using a word processor call WordStar 6, I can use WordStar to create pages in a format thats impossible in any of gill bate's sh1te.
The most important thing in DOS, no bluudy time wasting mouse to bother about.
I also have another with windows 7, but thats a pain in the you know what, gave it to my daughter, she gave it me back, couldn't get her head round the crappy layout, and new phraseology they use, had it for more than a year, don't think its had 4 hours usage yet.
 
Well, despite my initial misgivings I got used to windows 7....much easier than Vista....but it is personal choice. If it works, and does what you want it to do, then that is all that matters.
Sometimes I think there is as much computer snobbery about as wine snobbery.
You like, what you like....simple as.
 
Up date windows 8

Today is the day that Microsoft release the Windows 8 Consumer Preview.
This isn't the finished Windows 8. To all accounts that will be launched around September/October. This is an early look at how it's shaping up.
It should be released U.S time which could be well into the evening here.
 
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Oh my did you try windows 8 consumer preview? If my phone hadn't of busted I would have made a video for my blog to demonstrate what is possibly the weirdest windows system Microsoft have created.

I guess the whole idea is touch screen. I loved my HTC sensation phone before It broken. I don't have a tablet(or ipad) generally they look cool for what they are but I don't like the idea touch screen revolution taking over desktop pcs. I cannot imagine myself sat here now using my screen instead of a mouse.

So I installed windows 8 consumer preview right before I reinstalled my Linux system hoping to dual boot with Win8CP NB**

Wow what a confusion. Windows7 is pretty much a perfect operating system compared to others they released(though I mainly use linux)

Windows 8 introduces the metro style or whatever they call it. Its pretty confusing to say the least. It feels like a tablet thing to me. On a touch screen tablet I think this would probably be great. You can get the the win7 desktop up though but it seems you have to constantly go back to the metro start screen. Wow it is totally weird for a Microsoft product. So much of a change I don't think people are going to like it much. But its only a preview version and in no way represents the full product.

But its nice of them to allow you to install a preview to see if you are going to like it.
But I would recommend if you want to try it that you download the ISO burn it on DVD(or create usb installer) make a partition on your hard drive and install it. This way you will get dual boot 7 and 8. I think it might be a pain for people to get their 7 systems back using the installer-- not sure about this. Another option is to try it on a spare PC.



NB** note that if you use linux and windows dual boot. Its not so easy to get the dual boot working with the autoinstaller that unbuntu provides(this may be due to I use ubuntu12.04beta1) I have kinda managed(i cheated) it but I have to go in bios to switch to w8
 
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Vista was an mistake and 7 was the rectification of that mistake hehe

I just wrote about 8 in another post. I seem to be dual posting a lot lately :)

Windows 8 is..... well it is crazy. Still its the 'consumer preview' I was using. I think I shall stick to Linux for everyday usage. It is a much better experience. Though I still like 7.

I have 7 on my HTPC/XBMC to save hassle with driver problems.


maxthecollie said:
bring back XP
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NOOOOOoooooo don't do that :D

If your pc is old try installing a lite version of linux. (if you dont need too man windows apps that is)
 
Thanks for the info Restless from what you've said don't think I'll be dashing out to get Windows 8 I'll stick with 7
 
When I can make a video I will. Watching a MSN video will make it look great-- You really need to see it in action.

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Thanks for the info Restless from what you've said don't think I'll be dashing out to get Windows 8 I'll stick with 7
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I like 7....hated Vista......I have it on a laptop and I hate using the laptop because Vista is so unfriendly to users.
Don't see me getting Windows 8 anytime soon.
 
Margaret Pilkington said:
I like 7....hated Vista......I have it on a laptop and I hate using the laptop because Vista is so unfriendly to users.
Don't see me getting Windows 8 anytime soon.
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I love 7 Margaret, although I haven't really had any problems with any windows systems I've used and I think I've used them all, my first was the first standard windows, the one before windows 95 and I must have had them all since then
 
It isn't problems with Vista...well, not what you could call problems.......it is just not user friendly........hard to navigate, memory hungry. I liked XP......I have used all the ohter John.....95,98,2000ME........never stuggled to find my way about with any of them, but Vista is the pits. When my ship comes in I will ditch the damn thing and get Windows 7.
 
Margaret Pilkington said:
It isn't problems with Vista...well, not what you could call problems.......it is just not user friendly........hard to navigate, memory hungry. I liked XP......I have used all the ohter John.....95,98,2000ME........never stuggled to find my way about with any of them, but Vista is the pits. When my ship comes in I will ditch the damn thing and get Windows 7.
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Wouldn't it be worth just selling it second hand and starting again? It must be frustrating to have a device that you don't use.

I got a really nice little netbook with Windows 7 on for £250 recently.

I agree with you, Vista is the pits - and so does my Richard, who actually knows about these things...
 
susie123 said:
Wouldn't it be worth just selling it second hand and starting again? It must be frustrating to have a device that you don't use.

I got a really nice little netbook with Windows 7 on for £250 recently.

I agree with you, Vista is the pits - and so does my Richard, who actually knows about these things...
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I do use it...but very infrequently....and I really think it is because it is a crap OS.

That is probably what I will do.........buy a new one I mean. The tinlids will probably fight over the old one.
I'm glad someone else found Vista a right pain in the butt. I didn't like it from the moment I switched it on, but it was a present from himself so I couldn't say too much(well, I could have, but it wouldn't have done much good - and he did think he was doing something really good).

As for my ship coming in....all that comes in for me is the tide! :)
 
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