Wine snobbery

Cashy, they do not care what you think about them, because if they can spend that on one bottle of wine then they do not circulate in our orbit.
Personally, I would rather have a mug of builders brew and a slice of cherry cake.
See, I told you I was a pleb.
 
Guinness I was reading again the first post you wrote when starting this thread and I have a question for you. Why do you belong to a wine club when you evidently don’t have much respect for the opinions of those running it? It would be so much easier to just visit your local bottle shop and buy what you enjoy drinking. You could even buy wine that you are not familiar with and give it a try without waiting for someone else to do this for you. You say you are a tightwad, well it seems to me that you are actually wasting money by being a member of that club.

If you are really interested in wine, why not buy a couple of books about the subject and educate yourself on the making of wine right from the preparation of the soil the grapes grow in to the end result. You would learn why the different blends, the different flavours, which grapes are used for the different wines, and perhaps it would help you understand why the different prices (although I agree that some are very much overpriced to my way of thinking). There is so much that goes into producing the bottle that eventually lands on your table, I think you might find it very interesting.

I wonder if by telling us that you belong to a wine club, and then belittling the choice of wine (drain cleaner?) and the description made by whoever runs the club, might in fact be a wee bit of snobbery on your part.
 
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DaveinGermany said:
Market influences mate, if folk want something that badly they'll pay over & above the odds if it is the only way they can get their mitts on it, more so if it is a limited resource.
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Nah, it's out and out snobbery, they will sell their left testicle just to put it in their cellar so that they can say they have it.
But they won't open it, they wont share the joy with friends, it doesn't matter, the damned thing is probably corked anyway.
 
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But they won't open it, they wont share the joy with friends, it doesn't matter, the damned thing is probably corked anyway.
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You are right...it is a case of buying it so that you can swank about it.
And isn’t that a sad thing...that it will not be opened to celebrate a birth, an engagement, a coming of age, a recovery from ill health, something that is a landmark event and deserves a toast.
It will languish in a dark cellar, when the liquid sunshine should be liberated to give pleasure.
The grapes would die in shame.
 
Margaret Pilkington said:
You are right...it is a case of buying it so that you can swank about it.
And isn’t that a sad thing...that it will not be opened to celebrate a birth, an engagement, a coming of age, a recovery from ill health, something that is a landmark event and deserves a toast.
It will languish in a dark cellar, when the liquid sunshine should be liberated to give pleasure.
The grapes would die in shame.
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just the same with many in the classic car movement. open the garage door on a nice weekend day to wash and show off their toy. then they,ll go to a show with it on the back of a trailer, drive it off, back on and trailer it home. do not get me started as well on the snobbish attitude of jaguar and MG owners that look down on us lesser mortals with more massed produced vehicles.
 
monkey hanger said:
just the same with many in the classic car movement. open the garage door on a nice weekend day to wash and show off their toy. then they,ll go to a show with it on the back of a trailer, drive it off, back on and trailer it home. do not get me started as well on the snobbish attitude of jaguar and MG owners that look down on us lesser mortals with more massed produced vehicles.
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Psst, don't tell anyone but I'd have any model of either of those brands if only I could afford one, Yes, I'm a make do and mend car snob.


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love someone to do that with a jag xk120 or a mgB. at least the breakdown people would spot it quicker when the owner takes it out.
 
dotti34 said:
Guinness I was reading again the first post you wrote when starting this thread and I have a question for you. Why do you belong to a wine club when you evidently don’t have much respect for the opinions of those running it? It would be so much easier to just visit your local bottle shop and buy what you enjoy drinking. You could even buy wine that you are not familiar with and give it a try without waiting for someone else to do this for you. You say you are a tightwad, well it seems to me that you are actually wasting money by being a member of that club.

If you are really interested in wine, why not buy a couple of books about the subject and educate yourself on the making of wine right from the preparation of the soil the grapes grow in to the end result. You would learn why the different blends, the different flavours, which grapes are used for the different wines, and perhaps it would help you understand why the different prices (although I agree that some are very much overpriced to my way of thinking). There is so much that goes into producing the bottle that eventually lands on your table, I think you might find it very interesting.

I wonder if by telling us that you belong to a wine club, and then belittling the choice of wine (drain cleaner?) and the description made by whoever runs the club, might in fact be a wee bit of snobbery on your part.
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Let me point a few things out Sherlock…

I’m a member of the wine club because I get a very nice discount through my blue light card and I get to try a variety of wines every month.

I’ll assume by ‘bottle shop’ you mean ‘off licence’ which are few and far between around here and are more focused on lager, beer and alcopops and have a pitiful wine selection. Supermarkets tend to buy the same wines over and over again with little chance to try anything different. I’ve been in places that have their red wines in the cooler.

You assume I know nothing of wine production, where in my post did I say that? I questioned the validity of people who make a living out of telling others what they should drink based on nonsenical descriptions. To evidence this I used comments from my wine club blurb.

Are you really saying that if I read a ‘couple of books and educate myself’ that my palate will change and I will prefer the £17.50 wine over the £7.

The only snobbery here is from someone who thinks my palate needs educating by reading a couple of books
 
Wow, Guinness, I certainly have got you all fired up. Let ME point out a couple of things. First of all, my name is not Sherlock but I do not take offence at you calling me this, even though I assume you are being supercilious and a tad sarcastic in your choice of names. I have been called other names which have not worried me either – sticks and stones and all that…

Did I say you know nothing about wine production? Where in MY post did I say that? How could I assume this when I know nothing about you? You have done a lot of assuming yourself as to my meaning. My suggestion re reading books is because I personally enjoy this pastime, and now and then you might find, like I do, that there is actually something you don’t already know that is interesting. No, I am not saying read a couple of books and your palate will change, maybe your attitude to perfectly innocent comments needs to change,

I had read into your remarks that you belittled the people who run your wine club and that you rubbished their comments, hence me not understanding why you bothered to belong to this club. So maybe my interpretation of your comments was as off the mark as yours is of mine.

By the way, you are correct in that a bottle shop is similar to off-licence – over here supermarkets are not licenced to sell alcohol, so there are shops that do this.

Personally I know nothing about wine, I do not like red wine, and I wouldn’t drink it even if it did cost $500 a bottle (that's another story). I am also not ashamed to confess to any wine buff that I drink Moscato, which I can buy for about $8.

Therefore, I think your interpretation of my snobbery is far off the mark.
 
Is this wine snobbery or just an example of what a collector will pay to own something rare, whether a painting, a sculpture, or a bottle of wine? Currently there is a bottle of Penfold’s 1951 Grange shiraz being auctioned over here. The selling price is expected to reach $120,000 or even more (that’s about 65,000 British pounds). Yes, that IS for one bottle - not the whole winery. I don’t know who the current owner is but there are less than 20 such bottles in circulation. Not sure about being in circulation – I think if you owned one of these you would have it in a very safe place, definitely not being circulated - imagine if it was handled by a butter-fingered person and oops! - sorry…..

This bottle is apparently extra valuable because it has the signature of the pioneering winemaker, Max Schubert, on it. Last year a bottle was sold for over $103,000.

So, if you have 65,000 pounds lying around you don’t want you too could become a snob of the wine variety. Doubt it will ever be known what it tastes like as doubt it will ever be opened, and after all these years in the bottle all I can say is ‘yuk!’ but I guess we will never know – some things improve with age….
 
I'm reminded of a point in my first job in the transport industry. The weather was attrocious and the overnight lorry from Maidstone which usually arrived about 7 am didn't get in until 4 pm. A chap had been ringing all day desparate to get hold of a case a wine that was on it. As soon as the lorry arrived he rushed over to collect it but when I went to pick it up, it slipped out of my hands which were freezing. He had an apoplectic fit yelling at me about how much the wine had cost. Fortunately the boss took my side saying it was just an unfortunate accident.
 
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