Work for dole
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Somebody seems to have had a bit of a U-turn, what a shame I admired what you said in an earlier thread.
http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f69/tough-plans-for-young-jobless-39733-5.html
By the way less of the 'these people', type grouping, they, you and I, (i.e. We), all belong to the same wicked society that allows the employers to fiddle their taxes and employ people on the black economy.
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These sort of posts really get up my nose. I have worked for the last 17 years, paying into the system. For the last 2 of those, as a single parent paying £500 a month childcare whilst getting no working tax credits as I was above the payment threshold.
Couple of months ago, was made redundant and now receiving the grand total of 60.50 a week and 46 ish for my child.
Out of that I have to pay an additional 150 a mont for my house that I have lived in for the last 3 years.
I would love to work, however whilst my child is only part time at school, getting a job to fit around that is difficult. Its frustrating as I have years of experience, worked hard to climb the 'career ladder' and have developed skills that I could be using.
I doubt I am the only one. There are a alot of single parents that are in this trap where they cant work. If the Government or companies looked further into remote working etc, I think this would improve the situation no end. Set up costs are minimal and there are scores of skilled workers that would welcome the opportunity.
Strings like this just demonise those claiming benefits. Some of us have little choice
Couple of months ago, was made redundant and now receiving the grand total of 60.50 a week and 46 ish for my child.
Out of that I have to pay an additional 150 a mont for my house that I have lived in for the last 3 years.
I would love to work, however whilst my child is only part time at school, getting a job to fit around that is difficult. Its frustrating as I have years of experience, worked hard to climb the 'career ladder' and have developed skills that I could be using.
I doubt I am the only one. There are a alot of single parents that are in this trap where they cant work. If the Government or companies looked further into remote working etc, I think this would improve the situation no end. Set up costs are minimal and there are scores of skilled workers that would welcome the opportunity.
Strings like this just demonise those claiming benefits. Some of us have little choice
thats a sample of society that the bitch with a state funeral created only me,not much ya do about it.
That’s my view too Eric.
The real problem is the minimum wage. Having a minimum wage doesn’t encourage some employers to pay the going rate for the job because they know that as long as they pay the minimum wage the law cannot touch them.
Well said Less, probably more people fiddling taxes and EXPENSES in this country than those fiddling benefits. Some of those are the ones who make the decisions that say those on benefits have to work.
No, I just decided that a list would be wasted on someone who could not read the existing one and could not string enough words together for a couner argument.
Strings like these make people wonder where there money is going. I don't think anyone is having a go at anyone genuinely unable to work because of family circumstances, certainly not me as I am only one step away from it myself
Tele working would be ideal for many, including the disabled (though there should not be an pressure to force those genuinely unwell back into the workforce) The amount it would cost would be negligible compared with benefits that might be paid over a number of years.
I think many, particularly small employers would go for the idea. I know virtual PA's are always popular
That is a very poor answer to what Onlyme posted, she has worked up to being made redundant not long ago and is now struggling on very little money to support her and her child.
As for having to give up work due to family circumstances you have no idea until it happens!!!
So you are still in favour of people being made to work for dole money because it will be beneficial to small bussiness's?? Sorry that is out of order, if you are going to employ somebody pay them a proper wage!!!
The jobs just aren't there to be had!!! The problems stem from most of our major employers closing down, so the answer is to encourage business back into the area. People can't seriously be expected to work for sixty pounds a week!! Why not bring the workhouses back?? That is the way it is heading!!!
Surely it's better to have people working full stop?
When i started the job i have now i was only on a small wage but gradually gained more hours the longer i was there and put in the overtime.
If people are getting 60 quid a week dole then yes they should be made to work for it if this ridiculous scheme gets the go ahead.
When i started the job i have now i was only on a small wage but gradually gained more hours the longer i was there and put in the overtime.
If people are getting 60 quid a week dole then yes they should be made to work for it if this ridiculous scheme gets the go ahead.
Think you have answered your own question there , the only reason there are no manufacturing jobs is because people prefer to buy cheap Chinese made imports , Does anyone know what percentage of non-food goods ASDA/Walmart sells that are made in the UK ? maybe 5% .
How many times have there been complaints about Accrington becoming Pound shop central ( all imported tat) and the closing of high brand shops because folks don't patronize them .
How many parents spend hundreds of Pounds every Christmas on imported toys and how many would be prepared to pay a few pounds more if the Toys were British made . You cannot have it both ways , if you want decent wages you have to be prepared to pay a decent price for goods and services .
Sorry but I disagree, the only reason there are no manufacturing jobs is because the manufacturers have gone for the cheapest supplier. Think most people would be prepared to pay that little bit more to get some jobs back locally. I for one most certainly would!!!
I don't know how long it is since you lived in these parts or if ever you did but in recent years a lot of local factories were making parts for cars. Rist Wires and TML were quite big employers and one has long gone and the other not far behind. Even Nori (trading under another name) is cutting back drastically, so no I do not accept that the consumers are at fault just the greedy manufacturers!!!
Couple of arguments against this. Firstly housing benefit is means tested, so any wages I receive would go straight to housing benefit first, before hitting my pocket. Therefore, If I had a part time job at minimum wage, I would have to work approx 20 hours before I even touched the dole money, another 10 ish hours to repay the dole money. Out of that, I would also pay 70-80 for childcare to cover that (although working tax would pay 80%).
Bearing in mind, I have worked for the last few years with a knee condition with which I could go on disability for life (or until a series of operations that arent guarenteed to fix the problem), any extra money that I would get on disability gets knocked off housing benefit automatically so I would be no better off. Also, my disability would appear on my work record, which, although I appreciate there is meant to be no discrimination, I would prefer no to take the chance.
Also, the value of training that I have undergone over the years is huge. If I was a brain surgeon in the same circumstance, would you ask them to work in the community, or as a virtual pa for 60 quid a week? In a country where the Government complain there is a skills shortage etc, surely they should look to make it easier for those that desperately want to work in a job that they have strived for?
I find it embaressing telling people I am unemployed (And I dont mean to offend anyone here). The treatment you receive from the job centre etc is disgraceful, and is only the start of strangers who know nothing about your circumstances judging you and looking down on you. In fact, when I went for my interview with the 'Lone parent adviser' (what joy that was!), after about half an hour of her 'speaking' to me she asked for the necessary paperwork to complete the claim including my last pay slip. She looked at it, paused for a few seconds, and then apologised saying "I'm sorry, I;ve been talking to you like this, and you pay more tax than I earn a month". Its a shame people think they have the right to talk down to you whatever situation you are in, God forbid they find themselves down on their luck on day
Your quite right Polly, Benipete should take the effort to read your list.
Well Beni consider your wrists slapped and in case you didn't understand the list I have placed it below:-
- Cleaning the Queen Victoria statue on Blackburn Boulevard.
- Re-building Whitebirk Drive, no, even you’ve rejected that one.
- Cleaning Hospitals.
- Window Cleaner for public buildings.
By the way, why did you do such a dramatic U-turn?
I preferred the other polly.
You have totally misread me. I would never advocate anyone who has genuine reasons for not working, being h assled into doing so.
The problem in this country is not people who find themselves with problems after working for x amount of years the problem is the hardcore unemployed, the wont work cant work brigade, these are the problem.
I would also suggest that you have no idea what is like to work 12 h ours a day 6 days a week and a few on Sunday to keep a famil when the other partner can not work and be constantly turned down for any help because you are working, but one gets on with it and works around family circumstances.