thats why rooney plays for man utd rather than a decent team like burnley or accy stanley .....
And probably their manager was playing them in positions they play best in, we've all heard of square pegs in round holes, was very evident last night, managers such as Fergie, the Fat Waiter, Redknapp, ect put these players out on the field for 9 months of the season, its hardly rocket science to see Rooney doesn't play the system well and Gerrard is no left winger and as for Eskey, well forget itThe simple difference to me was Algeria who are not n never will be a good side,wanted it more than our over hyped prats, was glaringly obvious to anyone who watched, they showed more commitment.
There's no excuse for a performance like that. As soon as these prima donna football players go up against a team with something to prove or any hunger to win whatsoever, they buckle.
There's a definite lack of leadership on the field. The best at leading by example (David Beckham) is out injured. Steven Gerrard isn't at his best after a lacklustre domestic season.
To me, the starting eleven doesn't look balanced at all. The two most technically gifted defenders in the England squad (Ledley King and Rio Ferdinand) are out injured, and have been replaced by a traditionally bit-part utility player in Jamie Carragher. The brightest spark going forward (Joe Cole) hasn't yet had a look in, while one of England's most effective players in international games over the last five years (Peter Crouch) has only seen a few minutes off the bench. Aaron Lennon is notorious for offering a severe lack in end product, I've no idea why he's in ahead of Shaun Wright-Phillips. Emile Heskey, God love him, is a player low on confidence, poor in front of goal and increasingly ineffective as a target man as the games wear on.
And as I type this, Glen Johnson has been skinned ten more times...
It's certainly not over, but it's going to take something very special for England to get anywhere near the standard that they should be at, as World Cup contenders.
There's a definite lack of leadership on the field. The best at leading by example (David Beckham) is out injured. Steven Gerrard isn't at his best after a lacklustre domestic season.
To me, the starting eleven doesn't look balanced at all. The two most technically gifted defenders in the England squad (Ledley King and Rio Ferdinand) are out injured, and have been replaced by a traditionally bit-part utility player in Jamie Carragher. The brightest spark going forward (Joe Cole) hasn't yet had a look in, while one of England's most effective players in international games over the last five years (Peter Crouch) has only seen a few minutes off the bench. Aaron Lennon is notorious for offering a severe lack in end product, I've no idea why he's in ahead of Shaun Wright-Phillips. Emile Heskey, God love him, is a player low on confidence, poor in front of goal and increasingly ineffective as a target man as the games wear on.
And as I type this, Glen Johnson has been skinned ten more times...
It's certainly not over, but it's going to take something very special for England to get anywhere near the standard that they should be at, as World Cup contenders.
In the last few days I've watched the Dutch (only a few minutes ago) the Germans, the reigning Champs Italy, Hot favorites Spain, even Brazil, hey all looked very ordinary, shaker. I know England were crap in both games and I'm as annoyed as everybody else, but don't know if you remember 66, we drew our first two games and were crap then too
In the last few days I've watched the Dutch (only a few minutes ago) the Germans, the reigning Champs Italy, Hot favorites Spain, even Brazil, hey all looked very ordinary, shaker. I know England were crap in both games and I'm as annoyed as everybody else, but don't know if you remember 66, we drew our first two games and were crap then too
Too often we find solice when our peers are failing as well as us. When, really, we should be even more frustrated that we've been unable to capitalise on the situation and prove to everyone that we are in contention for the big prize.
Our lads would've made a better fist of it, thats for sure - maybe we should enter the England non-league VI for the Euros
As others have said when these overpaid mollicoddled prima donnas come up against a team who may not be as technically good as they are but are actually hungry for a win & play for the pride of wearing their shirt, they can't deal with it - thats why I prefer non league/lower league footy to watching any premiership team
Our lads would've made a better fist of it, thats for sure - maybe we should enter the England non-league VI for the Euros
As others have said when these overpaid mollicoddled prima donnas come up against a team who may not be as technically good as they are but are actually hungry for a win & play for the pride of wearing their shirt, they can't deal with it - thats why I prefer non league/lower league footy to watching any premiership team
Agreed! Yet another reminder of why I prefer to spend my Saturday afternoons watching hard-grafting, no-frills journeyman players, rather then overpaid, precious, prima donna-ish, egotistical, self-regarding PRATS!
As for Rooney's petulant whining, he ought to reflect on the fans who scrimped and saved their money to go out to SA to support him and his team mates, only to be let down by his pathetic no-show on the pitch.
Disagree mate i would single rooney out fer his comments,was not the usual news hype at all, the world and his wife saw n heard him, was the remarks of a big headed spoilt brat. simple as.
Not impressed with the attitude .......... but allegedly the lad has apologised, now whether or not the fans accept it ?
English press pounce, Rooney apology released - Dirty Tackle - World SoccerBlog - Yahoo! Sports
English press pounce, Rooney apology released - Dirty Tackle - World SoccerBlog - Yahoo! Sports
"I am as passionate about the England team as anyone. Last night, on reflection I said things in the heat of the moment that came out of frustration of both our performance and the result.
"The most important thing now is to regroup be positive and work towards winning the game on Wednesday. To do this the players will need the support of the fans more than ever.
"For my part I apologise for any offence caused by my actions at the end of the game."
So now the FA insult our intelligence by expecting us to accept that Rooney said that. We've all heard Rooney talk...can you believe he says things like that? "Coleen, on reflection, I'd rather have brown than red sauce with me bacon butty."
"The most important thing now is to regroup be positive and work towards winning the game on Wednesday. To do this the players will need the support of the fans more than ever.
"For my part I apologise for any offence caused by my actions at the end of the game."
So now the FA insult our intelligence by expecting us to accept that Rooney said that. We've all heard Rooney talk...can you believe he says things like that? "Coleen, on reflection, I'd rather have brown than red sauce with me bacon butty."
"I am as passionate about the England team as anyone. Last night, on reflection I said things in the heat of the moment that came out of frustration of both our performance and the result.
"The most important thing now is to regroup be positive and work towards winning the game on Wednesday. To do this the players will need the support of the fans more than ever.
"For my part I apologise for any offence caused by my actions at the end of the game."
So now the FA insult our intelligence by expecting us to accept that Rooney said that. We've all heard Rooney talk...can you believe he says things like that? "Coleen, on reflection, I'd rather have brown than red sauce with me bacon butty."
Exactly what i thought its bullshine, Rooney publicly slagged the fans, so any apology should be public, or its worthless to me.
Rooney publicly slagged the fans, so any apology should be public, or its worthless to me.
Too right, if Rooney had come before the cameras and apologised in his own words (stumbling and awkward though they might be), I would've been more inclined to believe him.
However, that's just a load of PR flannel which fools nobody and shows just how stupid the FA think we are.
How come teams like Cameroon can come out and play such a great match when our lot (who are supposed to be a far better team) play like such wussies (being polite there). It wouldn't be so bad if they at the very least "played their hearts out"
Bernie, that was probably the best match ive seen so far, n both teams are not remotely rated to do owt.
Would say "pride" might be the right word hereBernie, that was probably the best match ive seen so far, n both teams are not remotely rated to do owt.
Seems our lot have none
Argeed.. apart from our defence the rest of the team lacked any sort of commitment for the whole 90 mins..we all know something has to change for what could be our last match..players like Rooney, Gerrard, Lampard don't turn into crap players overnight..to be honest any sort of change in the formation of the team is no longer a gamble.. we can't do any worse than Friday.
here we go for Wednesday.. 4-5-1
James
Johnson Dawson Terry Cole
Lennon Gerrard Lampard Barry J Cole
Rooney
Plenty of attack from the wings with Gerrard shooting from outside the box or playing balls into Rooney... job done!
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