World Cup Thread

Absolutely disgusting - IMHO this comes from having a foreign manager who does not select/play to the strengths of the Premier League players - without doubt, the strongest league in the world, yet he changes the system they play week in - week out
:-(((
 
Absolutely disgusting - IMHO this comes from having a foreign manager who does not select/play to the strengths of the Premier League players - without doubt, the strongest league in the world, yet he changes the system they play week in - week out
:-(((

...it might also have something to do with the players being a bunch of overpaid, spoiled, petulant prima donnas who, for the most part, have no pride in their country and no regard for the fans who travel thousands of miles to watch them, being far more concerned about their over-inflated wage packets and their luxury lifestyles. :mad:
 
Its wierd..how many shots on target does a top premier league side have in champons league fixture maybe 10 ..double what england had today..plus english sides defending in champs league usually good ? why not at international level..weve been beat by a bunch of inexperienced youngsters
 
englands goal .... well according to this it wasnt .... :D:D:D



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...it might also have something to do with the players being a bunch of overpaid, spoiled, petulant prima donnas who, for the most part, have no pride in their country and no regard for the fans who travel thousands of miles to watch them, being far more concerned about their over-inflated wage packets and their luxury lifestyles. :mad:
Think you got it in one Steve, just a shame the prima donnas don't get it!!! They were a disgrace, unfortunately they will still be paid their over inflated wages in the not to distant future!!!!
 
Suitable punishment would be to make them spend the 10 hour flight home rubbing/applying 'Dubbin' to their boots ;) :D
 
...it might also have something to do with the players being a bunch of overpaid, spoiled, petulant prima donnas who, for the most part, have no pride in their country and no regard for the fans who travel thousands of miles to watch them, being far more concerned about their over-inflated wage packets and their luxury lifestyles. :mad:

Got to agree with the Man ! No pride & no commitment, self centred & egotistical, as Cashy stated, sack em all & get some youngsters who'll play for Pride & Honour.
 
Got to agree with the Man ! No pride & no commitment, self centred & egotistical, as Cashy stated, sack em all & get some youngsters who'll play for Pride & Honour.

Total agreement - but I still feel that the manager has to bear the brunt od the criticism. After all he chooses the squad, selects the team and decides the tactics.
He selected injured players, out of form players, donkeys (Heskey has not scored since February), players who play well in one formation do not necessarily play well in another format - don't ask me why, but few Premier League teams play 4-4-2, and certainly in Europe, where we are strong in all competitions the teams almost always play 4-5-1.
If you look at the consistently strong teams in the world, then the chances are that the manager is a national of that country and was an international player.
The answer - I don't know. Perhaps the manager should be chosen by a small panel of ex internationals and not the plonkers in Soho Square - perhaps they should fall on their swords first.
 
Have just listened to Gerrard, telling us it was that "Goal" that made the differance, spineless, no backbone,:( 3 lions, Englands Captain! yer having a laugh didn't even have the guts to say we were crap, :mad:
 
...it might also have something to do with the players being a bunch of overpaid, spoiled, petulant prima donnas who, for the most part, have no pride in their country and no regard for the fans who travel thousands of miles to watch them, being far more concerned about their over-inflated wage packets and their luxury lifestyles. :mad:
Sorry Wyn but the likes of Messi and Kaka are paid far more than England team members yet they always seem to play to their strenths
 
yeh mate but neither play in england, does that not tell ya summat?
Not really, there are plenty of foreigners play here and are playing quite well in South Africa, the problem is much deeper than that, Rooney plays a lone striking roll for MU Gerrard plays centre mid field for Liverpool, Heskey warms the bench at Villa, Terry and Upson were our third choice central defencive partnership, to me the only player that plays for England he way he pays at club level is Ashley Cole and I never thought I'd say that
 
i honestly think our superstars in general are overated crap, i watched Paulo Wanchope, fer malaga when i lived in spain, he was crap here, yet looked a worldbeater fer them. perhaps many of the foreign players here don't get sucked into the "english" way?:confused:
 
Sorry Wyn but the likes of Messi and Kaka are paid far more than England team members yet they always seem to play to their strenths

I would've thought you'd be the first one to complain when somebody dishonours our country but you're obviously blind to any criticism of your precious premier league.

Messi and Kaka probably regard it as an honour to play for their country; the majority of the England team don't and it shows on the field. :mad:
 
I would've thought you'd be the first one to complain when somebody dishonours our country but you're obviously blind to any criticism of your precious premier league.

Messi and Kaka probably regard it as an honour to play for their country; the majority of the England team don't and it shows on the field. :mad:

Well said, Wynonie. It was obvious to any reasonably knowledgeable fan a month ago that this was going to happen and I am now totally bored by the entire campaign post-mortem. I was even bored with the match yesterday so much so that I switched over to one of the shopping channels and started to write my response to the fiasco on here.

That it is the Premier League that is primarily responsible for this is a no-brainer - although it is not the only reason. I did not wish to see this game in a pub yesterday because I know that the people who would be doing the most shouting for heads to roll would be the supporters of "English" Premiership clubs.

The simple truth is that you cannot be a supporter of a team which is comprised of a bunch of foreign mercenaries and at the same time be an England supporter. In fact, it's worse than that - if you support the likes of BRFC, MUFC, Chelsea or Arsenal you are a traitor to your country, just as much a traitor as someone who hands over state secrets to enemies of the Crown.
 
I was even bored with the match yesterday so much so that I switched over to one of the shopping channels and started to write my response to the fiasco on here.


Strange choice, my cousin is one of the presenters on one of those channels, and he's more boring than any England game :D
 
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