Have sent you a pm Retlaw
World War 1
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Hi Retlaw,
My mum is gonna mail me photo's of A. Kay and other details which I'll forward. She also provided me with a couple of other names who died during the war.
One is a Walter Riley from C-l-Moors who was kia but his body was apparently never found. My mum seems to think from the date it was the Somme.
There is also a Richard Heys who lived on Dill Hall Lane. He died of Dysentry on board a hospital ship.
Like I said she's going to forward all she has to me but if any of that helps in the meantime!!
My mum is gonna mail me photo's of A. Kay and other details which I'll forward. She also provided me with a couple of other names who died during the war.
One is a Walter Riley from C-l-Moors who was kia but his body was apparently never found. My mum seems to think from the date it was the Somme.
There is also a Richard Heys who lived on Dill Hall Lane. He died of Dysentry on board a hospital ship.
Like I said she's going to forward all she has to me but if any of that helps in the meantime!!
Phil.
Kay. A more that one
Richard Heys Pte. 3598. Amb Sectn R.N.D. R.M.
Son of Richard & Susan Kay, of Waterloo ST C-l-M husband of Isabella 167 Church Lane, Church
died of enteric fever Aug 31st 1915
his name is on 5 memorials
Walter Riley Pte. 21642. S.W.B.
Son of Mr & Mrs Thomas Riley
Husband of Margaret Ellen Riley 67 Henry St, C-l-M
K.I.A. 11-8-18 no known grave
Ploergsteert Memorial Belgium
Retlaw.
Sorry no photos of Uncle Tom and Uncle John, the photos I have were taken much later 1930s, 40s.
Cheers Retlaw!
The A Kay is Arnold Kay who I mentioned previously.
The A Kay is Arnold Kay who I mentioned previously.
Hi Retlaw, would love to know anything re. my uncle Joseph Greenwood - lived at 30, Harwood Road, Rishton with father John Richard and brothers Jack and Harold. My dad said Joe joined the Pals and was sent to Egypt, and I have a button which was sent to my dad - it's black and has a crown over a posthorn.
Spent an afternoon looking through family papers.
One photograph of Pte. Alfred Martin in uniform, and two photographs of him in the blue convalescent's uniform whilst at Redburn Hospital in 1917. One being a named group of three soldiers and two nurses, the other a large group of men and staff outside the hospital.
We have his call up papers from the reserves in 1916, when he was aged 37, and his papers when he was discharged from the R.A.S.C. MT. in 1919.
There's also letters my great grandmother wrote to fight for him to be eligible a war pension, as he was totally bed ridden after the war.
It was eventually accepted by the War Pensions Office that his disabilities were due to war service, and a pension was granted nine years later in 1928. He died four years later. My great grandmother was eventually awarded a small War Widow's Pension, after more wrangles with bureaucracy, who eventually agreed that his death was due to serving in the war.
Even though all this was way before I was born, these are my granddad's parents, and it was sad reading through all the papers relating to this time.
Even though he was one of my paternal great grandfathers, we've been sat in tears reading some of the letters. Even though my mother isn't a blood relative, as the child of a soldier killed before she was born, she knows first hand how much of a struggle it was for the widows of warfare.
I'm happy we are a family that have managed to keep so many photographs and papers together. In themselves they aren't of any great importance, but together they form a very vivid historical picture of our past, and I'm very proud of Alfred Martin, and his widow Betsy.
I'll pm you, and you are very welcome to copy the photographs and papers I've found, if they are of interest to you.
Giving credit where it is due, I place on record my appreciation for the work that Retlaw has done over the past twenty years, much of it with the late Bill Turner. Without their digging, knowledge of our Accrington ancestors at the time of the First World War would be far, far less than it now is. I have received the benefit of his work, and so have lots of library users - and now so have some Accyweb users. Do please send him details of your ancestors, and photos to go with their names. When the time comes for the centenary of the founding of the Accrington Pals and of the 1st July 1916 centenary to be commemorated, it will be made far easier because of the work - several hours every day - that Retlaw has put in, and future generations will reap the knowledge that he and Bill have sown.
I feel sure that I am joined by the staff in the library in saying this.
I feel sure that I am joined by the staff in the library in saying this.
Its no good assholing Dobo I still hate you.
I just hope I'm still around at the Centenary.
Retlaw.
Just spent a fascinating hour or so with Retlaw.
It was a pleasure to meet you, and I think the work you and others are carrying on, recording the service history of our district is invaluable, and I'm sure future generations will be as thankfull for your toil others are now.
I very much enjoyed being able to see for myself a little of the work you've done.
Thank you.
It was a pleasure to meet you, and I think the work you and others are carrying on, recording the service history of our district is invaluable, and I'm sure future generations will be as thankfull for your toil others are now.
I very much enjoyed being able to see for myself a little of the work you've done.
Thank you.
I am at present reading The Trench by David Bilton--The Full Story of the 1st Hull Pals--
On Page 122 there are 2 photographs of Hull lads who were killed on the 1st July 1916 whilst serving with the Accrington Pals. The first is Corporal WC Billington and the second is Corporal A Moore. Can these 2 heroes be included in your list Retlaw?
On Page 122 there are 2 photographs of Hull lads who were killed on the 1st July 1916 whilst serving with the Accrington Pals. The first is Corporal WC Billington and the second is Corporal A Moore. Can these 2 heroes be included in your list Retlaw?
They are already in my Pals Roll of Honour.
Both of them were with a batch of men from the Army Cycle corps, and were posted to the 11th on the 25th May 1916. They fought with the 11th Battalion on the 1st July, therefore they are Accrington Pals.
Retlaw
my grandad pte W Baron mis-spelt on one medal as Barron was in the r.a.m.c. no 61042 did wonder if he could have been part of the Accrington 100 think he lived in ossy
William Baron Pte. 61042. R.A.M.C.
lived at 57 James St, Oswaldtwistle.
Kew Medal Cards WO372/2
His service records were destroyed during WW2
What is the Accrington 100 ?.
Retlaw.
Well, I said I would be back. 
Retlaw has kindly confirmed to me that he has records of two of my relatives - Charles Swann (Army) and Herbert Swann (Navy) having served during the First World War.
I was slightly puzzled as I was expecting a couple of other records to come up though.
Can anyone tell me what the 'rules' were re conscription - age ranges, marital status, reserved occupations, other reasons for not being eligible ...... etc?
And Retlaw has also let me know that both Herbert and Charles' names appeared on the Roll of Honour in the Whalley Road Primitive Methodist Chapel, which made me feel very very proud of my relationship to them.
Retlaw has kindly confirmed to me that he has records of two of my relatives - Charles Swann (Army) and Herbert Swann (Navy) having served during the First World War.
I was slightly puzzled as I was expecting a couple of other records to come up though.
Can anyone tell me what the 'rules' were re conscription - age ranges, marital status, reserved occupations, other reasons for not being eligible ...... etc?
And Retlaw has also let me know that both Herbert and Charles' names appeared on the Roll of Honour in the Whalley Road Primitive Methodist Chapel, which made me feel very very proud of my relationship to them.
Well, I said I would be back.
Retlaw has kindly confirmed to me that he has records of two of my relatives - Charles Swann (Army) and Herbert Swann (Navy) having served during the First World War.
I was slightly puzzled as I was expecting a couple of other records to come up though.
Can anyone tell me what the 'rules' were re conscription - age ranges, marital status, reserved occupations, other reasons for not being eligible ...... etc?
And Retlaw has also let me know that both Herbert and Charles' names appeared on the Roll of Honour in the Whalley Road Primitive Methodist Chapel, which made me feel very very proud of my relationship to them.
I'm sure someone more knowledgable will give you more information, but my great grandfather was 37 when he was called up from the Reserves in 1916. I suppose the age limit was changed so more men could fight, after so many losses.