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Wasn’t Tower Hamlets the first or one of the first local authorities to be infiltrated by immigrant councillors?

http://www.towerhamlets.gov.uk/data/your-council/index.cfm makes interesting reading.

And http://sps2ksrv.towerhamlets.gov.uk/MeetYourCouncillor/Members.aspx makes even more interesting reading where 31 of the 51 councillors have immigrant sounding names. What’s the betting that they are all devout Muslims?

I assume that the request (not TOLD as the Religious Affairs Correspondent Martin Beckford stated) was made by the ruling political party whose leader is a Councillor Lutfur Rahman who is also the Leader of the Labour Group. The reasoning behind the request is that 36% of the Tower Hamlet population follows Islam. Meaning that 64% do not. So Muslims are in the minority yet seem to have a majority representation at council level.

For many years now I have been of the opinion that Islam is infiltrating this country like some religious cancer and even made my views known on this forum. Only to be met with vilification and being called a racist. My claim that it is the sworn duty of every Muslim to promote the cause of Islam at every opportunity until the whole world follows Islam, was met with scorn, in spite of the fact that several Muslims have told me that it is true. Most Muslims only pay lip service to that edict but if push ever came to shove they would have to follow the party line so to speak.

Promoting Islam can be done by force or by stealth. I days of old it was done by force but that isn’t practical today so stealth it is. But how?

Create Muslim enclaves in targeted wards of towns and cities and get a councillor elected to office. A Muslim councillor is practically guaranteed a vote from all Muslims in his ward.

Make sure that the younger generation gets a good education so that they can get a job in the Town Hall, social services and the like.

Slowly but surely this country is being turned into a Muslim country, ward by ward, town by town and city by city and we are allowing it to happen. Nay not just allowing it but encouraging it by default and voter apathy.

Blackburn has 17 councillors out of 69 councillors with immigrant sounding names. Hmmm! It wasn’t all that long ago (1992) when there was just one. The Muslim community hasn’t quite gained control of the council but with 10 councillors as probable Muslims out of the 27 Labour (ruling party) councillors it won’t be long before it happens. Our current Mayor is Mohammed Khan elected as a councillor in 1992. See http://82.109.175.29/CMISWebPublic/CommitteeDetails.aspx?committeeID=123

How long before Blackburn follows a similar line to Tower Hamlets? Or Accrington, or Burnley, Bradford, Barnsley, Preston, etc. etc. etc.
 
I wonder how true this 'report' actually is?

As for the microwave thing, years ago we had 2 microwaves in a place that I worked at, one for meat eaters and one for 5 vegetarians that worked there. Seemed fair enough to me. I really don't see what the problem is if people don't want to heat their food in the same microwave where others have been cooking fatty bacon.

As for these people who use East Lancashire as a barometer for Islamic 'infiltration', then it's hardly representative of the country is it? Very poor use of statistics and flimsy evidence.
 
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It is about time that the muslim population realised that their imposition of their customs on the rest of us, only serves to alienate us from them.

This 'starve with them at ramadam' thread is an example - also the wedding fireworks - also blatent disregard of parking restrictions on Blackburn Rd.

It all serves to stir discontent and encourage the racism that they complain about
 
MargaretR said:
That doesn't explain illegal fireworks and illegal parking
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Its the same old story Margaret, if some one said tothe muslims not to park the way they do, and that letting of fireworks was anti social I honestly think they would abide by the same rules as use. The fact is the powers that be (police, councils) are so frightened that they will be branded racist by the PC brigade, that we have the situations that we have, and a lot of it is not muslims at all, its white nut cases that like to think they can make these decisions on their behalf, :mad::mad:
 
Exactly that jaysay, and shock of shocks, I agree with jambutty for a second time in as many weeks... must go see the doctor!
 
jaysay said:
Its the same old story Margaret, if some one said tothe muslims not to park the way they do, and that letting of fireworks was anti social I honestly think they would abide by the same rules as use. The fact is the powers that be (police, councils) are so frightened that they will be branded racist by the PC brigade, that we have the situations that we have, and a lot of it is not muslims at all, its white nut cases that like to think they can make these decisions on their behalf, :mad::mad:
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And the Muslim community play on it.
 
derekgas said:
Exactly that jaysay, and shock of shocks, I agree with jambutty for a second time in as many weeks... must go see the doctor!
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There, there derekgas, you’ve only had an attack of common sense.

By the way what’s gone wrong with your avatar? It seems to have a corrupt frame or two.
 
jambutty said:
There, there derekgas, you’ve only had an attack of common sense.

By the way what’s gone wrong with your avatar? It seems to have a corrupt frame or two.
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Must be that muslims are complaining JB, the Cross of St George reminds them of the Crusades:rolleyes:
 
Tin Monkey said:
I wonder how true this 'report' actually is?
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I think it's another case of the press making a mountain out of a molehill to get a sensational story.

Facts:

Some council meetings take place during the month of Ramadan.
Refreshments are provided during the council meetings.
Dusk falls during the council meetings.
Muslims break their fast at dusk,
However, when dusk fell and the Muslims went to get their packs of food to break their fast they were finding there was none left as it had all been scoffed earlier by the non-Muslims.
The non-Muslims were therefore requested to refrain from tucking in to food until the Muslims broke their fast to ensure fairness to all.

I personally see nothing wrong with that. Perhaps if the non-Muslims hadn't been such greedy beggars in the first place the problem would never have arisen.
 
That looks reasonable to me too Willow, but once again Muslims (I hate grouping people by their religion) become the 'folk devils' of our society.

I still can't work out how someone's religious affiliation affects their parking habits.
 
WillowTheWhisp said:

I think it's another case of the press making a mountain out of a molehill to get a sensational story.

Facts:

Some council meetings take place during the month of Ramadan.
Refreshments are provided during the council meetings.
Dusk falls during the council meetings.
Muslims break their fast at dusk,
However, when dusk fell and the Muslims went to get their packs of food to break their fast they were finding there was none left as it had all been scoffed earlier by the non-Muslims.
The non-Muslims were therefore requested to refrain from tucking in to food until the Muslims broke their fast to ensure fairness to all.

I personally see nothing wrong with that. Perhaps if the non-Muslims hadn't been such greedy beggars in the first place the problem would never have arisen.
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What a load of P.C. nonsense from a person that believes in 'live & let live', if someone chooses one way to live then, grand let them be free to live that life, but surely their way has to fit in with the majority, not the other way around?

The people that live around me of whatever colour or creed get on with their lives and don't expect anyone that doesn't want to, to have to fit in with their views, May all your different gods one day allow other peoples gods to live in harmony until then the do-gooders will ruin the world!
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What a load of P.C. nonsense from a person that believes in 'live & let live', if someone chooses one way to live then, grand let them be free to live that life, but surely their way has to fit in with the majority, not the other way around?
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I don't quite follow you there Less. If the non-Muslims had just eaten their own share of the food there would never have been a problem. It would have been live and let live. However, there were packs of food for the Muslims to break their fast with at dusk but these were also being eaten by the non-Muslims before dusk when they had their food so there was nothing left for the Muslims when it became their time to eat. They were trying to fit in with the non-Muslims until the non-Muslims ate their food too. Maybe an answer would be to have a table of food with a label "Muslims only" but that would probably have people complaining too.

So how would you solve it?

Here are people willing to join in the committee meetings at a time which runs over the hour at which they would break their fast. They have not asked for the time of the meetings to be changed in order to suit them. They were adapting their ways to fit in with the indigenous population (not sure if it was even a majority on the committees). They attended the meetings and when the non-Muslims had refreshments the Muslims simply didn't partake as dusk had not yet fallen. If there had been food left for them afterwards that would have been OK and there wouldn't have been a problem but there wasn't food left for them, so a solution seemed to be to ask everyone to wait and have their refreshments all at the same time so everyone got a fair share.

What is so intollerant about that?
 
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You have to laugh when you get a thread where people are saying that the minority should defer to the majority, that a nation's culture and way of life are being taken away by immigrant groups, and then start talking about the Crusades!!
 
WillowTheWhisp said:
I think it's another case of the press making a mountain out of a molehill to get a sensational story.

Facts:

Some council meetings take place during the month of Ramadan.
Refreshments are provided during the council meetings.
Dusk falls during the council meetings.
Muslims break their fast at dusk,
However, when dusk fell and the Muslims went to get their packs of food to break their fast they were finding there was none left as it had all been scoffed earlier by the non-Muslims.
The non-Muslims were therefore requested to refrain from tucking in to food until the Muslims broke their fast to ensure fairness to all.

I personally see nothing wrong with that. Perhaps if the non-Muslims hadn't been such greedy beggars in the first place the problem would never have arisen.
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A bit of cherry picking there WillowTheWhisp.

If you are throwing doubts on the accuracy of the report in the Telegraph, then surely it has to be the whole report or nothing. For does not that same report that you doubt also report about meals being scoffed by non Muslim councillors?

The real answer to that problem would be to serve two lots of food. Or is that too easy for the PC brigade and leaves no room for conflict.

What’s going to be next? We incumbents of the UK not being allowed to walk through a Muslin enclave eating a bag of crisps or smoking a fag during the daylight hours of Ramadan.

And the real issue is pandering to the Ramadan whim by reducing council business during the 30 days.

If someone takes on the Islamic faith then they have to accept that it is out of step with most of the rest of the world and they cannot expect the rest of the world to accommodate them. Except that they do and also want the rest of the world to convert to Islam.
 
WillowTheWhisp said:
:D I'm just wondering if the Muslims are a minority or a majority on that council. ;)
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If you read the thread through (Post 21) you would have seen that 31 of the 51 councillors had names attributed to immigrants and if you look at each person's profile you would see that they were all Asian.

Now I know that not every Asian is a Muslim and the profiles do not list their religion but I would be very surprised if all 31 were not Muslims.

So to answer your question it is odds on that the Muslims are in the majority.
 
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