£2 chickens

[Margaret Pilkington]

Originally Posted by polly

They make a damned good, cheap and healthy Shepard's pie. There are many different types of lentils eg. red, brown and green.

I have had many variations of dishes that had these things put in front of me when I was growing up....and I didn't like any of them.
Sorry, I don't care what colour they are, they taste VILE........and I will never ever let them past my lips....healthy or not, I am not eating them.

[blazey]

Originally Posted by polly

They make a damned good, cheap and healthy Shepard's pie. There are many different types of lentils eg. red, brown and green.

Are you a vegetarian Polly or just like your greens and things?

[shillelagh]

Read all of this lot out to Spug and this is what he says:

If they are that worried about their food go and forage for their own. Very few people would be able to feed themselves if it wasnt for shops and farmers.

Do not pm me - thats spuggiej so dont blame me - blame him

[Lilly]

Originally Posted by shillelagh

Read all of this lot out to Spug and this is what he says:

If they are that worried about their food go and forage for their own. Very few people would be able to feed themselves if it wasnt for shops and farmers.

Do not pm me - thats spuggiej so dont blame me - blame him

I don't want to forage for my own. I want someone else to kill it in a humane fashion, for it not to have been incarcerated in a tiny cage and for it not to have wee and poo burns on its legs.

[shillelagh]

Originally Posted by Lilly

I don't want to forage for my own. I want someone else to kill it in a humane fashion, for it not to have been incarcerated in a tiny cage and for it not to have wee and poo burns on its legs.

How do you know that the chicken you have bought from Asda/Tesco/elsewhere has wee and poo burns on its legs? By the time you buy it from there its been plucked cleaned etc or you are buying breast fillets or legs on their own.

[Margaret Pilkington]

Originally Posted by blazey

I probably couldn't because I am not a chicken fan, I prefer chops. And I dont pay a lot for meat as my butcher sells quality meat at good prices. I haven't even ever paid more than £2 for chicken because I only buy a few diced pieces to put in curry.

More of a red meat fan.

You cannot buy good meat cheaply......there is good meat.....and there is cheap meat......and they are not the same.

I also would not trust the 'organic' label if you buy such produce from Asda........they have poor policies in place to ensure that the produce that is labelled 'organic' meets the organic criteria.
Morrisons, Tesco and Iceland are far more rigorous in their standards for such produce. How do I know this.......well a relative of mine was supervisor of QC for a company that supplies all of these supermarkets with their organic meat.

[MargaretR]

Organic and free range taste better, and are more nutritious.
They cost more --- so just eat less.
Better to have a small portion of good stuff than a plateful of rubbish.

[cashman]

Originally Posted by [email protected]

Organic and free range taste better, a:

not when ya got plastic teeth like me they dont,so why waste money?

[jambutty]

Originally Posted by polly

The following were or are vegetarians/vegans

John Wesley died aged 88
Ghandi died aged 79
Yehudi Menuhin died aged 83
Einstein died aged 76
Dr Benjamin Spock died aged 95
Charles Darwin died aged 73
Epicurus died aged 71
General Branwell Booth died aged 73
Henry Ford died 84

There are of couse many more. In general veggies tend to live longer than meat eaters.

So 9 people reached past 70 before dying. Big deal! Is that supposed to prove that veggies live longer? How many didn’t get to 70?

I doubt if any one of your list were vegetarians from birth. More likely it was a choice later in life. In any case there are many centurions who spent their life tucking into animal products. The queen and Philip eat meat. My mother and uncle lived to well past 80 years of age and they ate meat and fish and dairy products. My father died at 52 but that was because the war was responsible for his death. My grandmother died aged 95 and she not only ate meat she also killed chickens, ducks, geese and turkeys on her farm.

I will be 71 in April and I eat red or white meat and fish, I eat eggs and drink proper milk at least as proper as you can get these days. My vegetable intake is and always has been limited to peas, baked beans, the very occasional lettuce and other salad vegetables. I don’t eat much fruit either.

The point is that longevity is not down solely to diet. Genetics plays a major role, as does life style.

[jambutty]

Originally Posted by blazey

I'm going to buy some lentils, they sound cheap and healthy. Wont be putting chicken in my soups though! Yuck.

I days of old when men were bold what was the remedy to build up a person after an illness?

Chicken broth!

[BLACKBURN RAVER]

Originally Posted by polly

I think a lot depends on education, research shows that the better educated a person is the more likely they are to care about animal welfare and food quality. Basically the more knowledge you have and the more one is able to process the information the more likely you are to make a conscious decision not to exploit other creatures for your own wants.

Notice I say wants as there is no need for chicken or any other animal product. Humans can live, some would argue more healthily without any animal products.

what a load of betty swollocks !!!, so youre saying because i choose to eat a £2 chicken im uneducated ?...seems to me that your the one thats needs educating luv !!!

as jambutty remarked in an earlier thread...

" SNOB "....but maybe id remove the s

[shakermaker]

Originally Posted by BLACKBURN RAVER

what a load of betty swollocks !!!, so youre saying because i choose to eat a £2 chicken im uneducated ?...seems to me that your the one thats needs educating luv !!!

as jambutty remarked in an earlier thread...

" SNOB "....but maybe id remove the s

Sorry but it doesn't say that at all. The research polly highlights shows that people who go further in education (college, univeristy etc) are more likely to make choices about their food based on ethical grounds. It doesn't imply that people who aren't in education that far are 'uneducated'; or incapable of making ethical decisions. It's just a social trend. Nothing more.

[accyman]

Originally Posted by shakermaker

Sorry but it doesn't say that at all. The research polly highlights shows that people who go further in education (college, univeristy etc) are more likely to make choices about their food based on ethical grounds. It doesn't imply that people who aren't in education that far are 'uneducated'; or incapable of making ethical decisions. It's just a social trend. Nothing more.

have you ever been in actual shared student accomodation?

anyone who has will know that the fridge is a very scary place to visit and trust me in all the flats , shared houses i have been to occupied by students not one of the things in their fridges resembled organic food unless you class mould as a stable meal infact if things havnt changed most students use their uni cards to get discount at mcdonalds and live off whatever mcdonalds has to offer

education has jack sh it to do with how you eat , your either a bleeding heart liberal or you dont give damn

edit:

yes i know not all students live this way before somone pipes up on the behalf of the minority that can put a decent meal together

[shakermaker]

Originally Posted by accyman

have you ever been in actual shared student accomodation?

Yes.

Originally Posted by accyman

anyone who has will know that the fridge is a very scary place to visit and trust me in all the flats , shared houses i have been to occupied by students not one of the things in their fridges resembled organic food unless you class mould as a stable meal infact if things havnt changed most students use their uni cards to get discount at mcdonalds and live off whatever mcdonalds has to offer

education has jack sh it to do with how you eat , your either a bleeding heart liberal or you dont give damn

I haven't got a clue why you quoted my post for this reply. I was trying to clarify the research polly offered, not stating my opinion.

[blazey]

Originally Posted by jambutty

I days of old when men were bold what was the remedy to build up a person after an illness?

Chicken broth!

I'm not a big fan of chicken soup, never have been.

I would also like to raise my own food but the plucking bit is a bit too tiresome in my opinion and I have no idea how to skin rabbits or anything like that.

What I mean by CHEAP good food is food that costs less due to the savings on packaging, advertising and all that. Its still more expensive than asda smart price but you can ask where its been without being misleading by packaging.

For example, I went to asda this evening and saw a pack of eggs from CAGED hens with fields of wheat on the packaging. The wheat symbolised the wheat pellets they'd been fed on, not where the hens had been raised. I think its wrong to show golden fields and blue skies on packages of eggs that have come from birds that have never seen such things.


I prefer my fresh meat at the butchers rather than something packaged, because the trays cant be recycled from asda, they're made from plastics that cant be distinguished so it has to go in the bin.