Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew? - Page 12

garinda · 14-02-2009, 17:06

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Originally Posted by andrewb

I know this would have flown past Councillor Jones, but the year was 2007/2008. It makes sense that I requested the information on the last full financial year, because of course, 2008/2009 is still ongoing.

The answer is in the detail.

What was the purpose of freely obtaining the information Andrew?

cashman · 14-02-2009, 17:08

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Originally Posted by andrewb

I know this would have flown past Councillor Jones, but the year was 2007/2008. It makes sense that I requested the information on the last full financial year, because of course, 2008/2009 is still ongoing.

The answer is in the detail.

the detail is in WHY? did ya need this information.

Gayle · 14-02-2009, 17:14

I would assume that Andrew has obtained the information to find out if Graham is telling the truth or not - I hope for Graham's sake that he is telling the truth.

I also hope that Andrew will publish ALL the information that he discovers and not put any further spin on the matter.

Also, it takes some time to get the information, (I know because I've used FOI in the past) so it may not be answered very quickly.

andrewb · 14-02-2009, 17:17

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Originally Posted by cashman

the detail is in WHY? did ya need this information.

Don't really see a need to explain why I did something I am perfectly entitled to. If you are suggesting I am mud flinging, well there has to be mud to fling. If you want just an unbridled attack on somebody's character, without an ounce of truth, just go to the first post of this thread which councillor Jones decided to make about a member of the public, using a law to request information on the spending of public money, which his government introduced.

garinda · 14-02-2009, 17:24

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Originally Posted by andrewb

Don't really see a need to explain why I did something I am perfectly entitled to.

Of course that is true, though I would have hoped for a little more transparency from you, as to the motive behind what you did, when asked straightforwardly the reasons for your action.

g jones · 14-02-2009, 17:28

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Originally Posted by Neil

I believe it was a close run thing against David Myles when we was first elected. Have they sorted out there differences now or is the party still a little disjointed?

David Myles lost the leadership comfortably and since then the vote has been unanimous. This is one of 6 personal attacks sent to the press by Councillor Britcliffe that contain any old made up lies to discredit me. That's the Tories for you.

g jones · 14-02-2009, 17:30

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Originally Posted by andrewb

Don't really see a need to explain why I did something I am perfectly entitled to. If you are suggesting I am mud flinging, well there has to be mud to fling. If you want just an unbridled attack on somebody's character, without an ounce of truth, just go to the first post of this thread which councillor Jones decided to make about a member of the public, using a law to request information on the spending of public money, which his government introduced.

Asnswer the question Andrew. Labour created 600 jobs and built the Globe Centre. A third owner it is now a multi million pound business.

What is the Tories best achievement for the people of Hyndburn in the 10 years they have had?

Lets be positive Andrew.... waiting......

garinda · 14-02-2009, 17:31

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Originally Posted by andrewb

If you want just an unbridled attack on somebody's character, without an ounce of truth, just go to the first post of this thread

I've just waded back to the first post in this thread.

Cllr. Jones posted that you'd requested information relating to councillor's expenses, 'probably' on behalf of Peter Britcliffe.

Since you did request the information, and Cllr. Jones used the word 'probably' I'm afraid there isn't a court in the land that would agree that anyone's character has been defamed.

Still it's been a while since we've had a good Archer/Aitken type trial, so you could risk it.

garinda · 14-02-2009, 17:34

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Originally Posted by g jones

What is the Tories best achievement for the people of Hyndburn in the 10 years they have had?

Towers of flowers.

That's an easy one.

andrewb · 14-02-2009, 17:36

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Originally Posted by garinda

I've just waded back to the first post in this thread.

Cllr. Jones posted that you'd requested information relating to councillor's expenses, 'probably' on behalf of Peter Britcliffe.

Since you did request the information, and Cllr. Jones used the word 'probably' I'm afraid there isn't a court in the land that would agree that anyone's character has been defamed.

Still it's been a while since we've had a good Archer/Aitken type trial, so you could risk it.

Along with all the other accusations. Everything I requested was me and me alone. He harked on about Peter Britcliffe many times, suggesting further than probably, suggesting that Peter was the ONLY person who would have known it. Fact is I never did speak to Peter about it, shame his political hatred and self importance cannot cope with that fact.

Uncle Mick · 14-02-2009, 17:37

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Originally Posted by g jones

Asnswer the question Andrew. Labour created 600 jobs and built the Globe Centre. A third owner it is now a multi million pound business.

What is the Tories best achievement for the people of Hyndburn in the 10 years they have had?

Lets be positive Andrew.... waiting......

Did`nt Howard and Bulloughs build the Globe Centre? and did`nt the companies occupying the Globe Centre create 600 jobs or am I being a little thick here?

andrewb · 14-02-2009, 17:37

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Originally Posted by g jones

Asnswer the question Andrew. Labour created 600 jobs and built the Globe Centre. A third owner it is now a multi million pound business.

What is the Tories best achievement for the people of Hyndburn in the 10 years they have had?

Lets be positive Andrew.... waiting......

I'm not going to fall for your games of smokescreens Councillor Jones. Where is your apology for your first post? How many times have you posted on AccringtonWeb when a perfectly legitimate, anonymous, request has been made by a member of the public.

garinda · 14-02-2009, 17:38

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Originally Posted by andrewb

Along with all the other accusations. Everything I requested was me and me alone. He harked on about Peter Britcliffe many times, suggesting further than probably, suggesting that Peter was the ONLY person who would have known it. Fact is I never did speak to Peter about it, shame his political hatred and self importance cannot cope with that fact.

I'm afraid 'harking on' about something isn't an offence in the eyes of the law either.

garinda · 14-02-2009, 17:42

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Originally Posted by andrewb

I'm not going to fall for your games of smokescreens Councillor Jones. Where is your apology for your first post? How many times have you posted on AccringtonWeb when a perfectly legitimate, anonymous, request has been made by a member of the public.

What is there to apologise for?

You did request the information.

We'll take your word that it wasn't at the behest of Peter Britcliffe, which was only hinted at by Graham Jones.

What's the problem?

If you think either of you have been damaged, sue.

Though as posted earlier, you haven't a leg to stand on.

andrewb · 14-02-2009, 17:42

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Originally Posted by garinda

I'm afraid 'harking on' about something isn't an offence in the eyes of the law either.

Lots of things are not illegal Garinda, however any sensible, reasonable person would offer an apology when they have accused somebody incorrectly. As Councillor Jones has. I would think it especially sensible when the accuser is a councillor who has got it wrong, when a member of the public has requested information on how they spend public money. I'm sure you'll understand as an independent, so independent that you will defend Councillor Jones even when he is completely wrong.