Bigoted or free speech - Page 5

accyman · 11-05-2014, 18:56

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Originally Posted by Michael1954

Read the BBC link in full and you will see the BBC accepted they didn't treat him right and offered him his job back.

it shoudlnt have been an issue period the BBC have merely carried out damage control

the person who sacked him should face disciplinary action for causing unfair distress to an employee and be forced to take a common sense course

DaveinGermany · 11-05-2014, 18:57

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Originally Posted by Michael1954

Read the BBC link in full and you will see the BBC accepted they didn't treat him right and offered him his job back.

Saw it on the news Mike, but it doesn't alter the fact that although the guy himself didn't use the word, it was part of a recording from the 30's? But because it's the word nigger irrespective of the context, the howling & baying for someone, anyone, to be punished for it is out of all proportion to the presumed offence!

Knee jerk over common sense, sadly the standard reaction to far to many cases nowadays due to over-sensitivity about perceived offence given & militant liberalist whiners whose overbearing preciousness must over ride anyone elses opinions & rights it seems!

Margaret Pilkington · 11-05-2014, 19:02

Either the BBC accept that this word was a part of the language of a bygone era.....and accept that it may cause offence to some of the population.....or they go through their back catalogue and remove all content with the word in it.
It is perfectly fine to have programs littered with blasphemy and foul language(which is offensive to probably just as many people), but anything that is not politically correct is not acceptable.
Talk about double standards and skewed values.

Michael1954 · 11-05-2014, 19:06

I agree, Dave, Margaret and Accyman. Just pointing out that the BBC acknowledged that they were wrong. The reference to Elvis Costello's Oliver's Army is pertinent too. Another song I can think of is John Lennon's Woman Is The Nigger Of The World. I have heard that played a few times by the BBC.

Margaret Pilkington · 11-05-2014, 19:09

There are lots of examples that could be cited in respect of this word.

DaveinGermany · 11-05-2014, 19:29

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Originally Posted by Michael1954

I agree, Dave, Margaret and Accyman. Just pointing out that the BBC acknowledged that they were wrong. The reference to Elvis Costello's Oliver's Army is pertinent too. Another song I can think of is John Lennon's Woman Is The Nigger Of The World. I have heard that played a few times by the BBC.

Which just goes to show the hypocrisy within various establishments that are supposed to represent balanced, unbiased & impartial reporting & neutrality across all aspects but fail continually depending on whose on the receiving end.

Eric · 11-05-2014, 20:15

What pees me off is that the PCs are so concerned about words that they don't put enough effort into dealing with the sticks and stones. Sweep all the dirt under a carpet of neutral, ineffective discourse. Racism, sexism, homophobia, and a host of other nasties are about what people do, not about their vocabulary.

accyman · 11-05-2014, 21:15

iv seen the full concert that clip is taken from and boy does he rip into the white folk in the audience yet no one screamed about his abuse of the white people...

this is mainly due to black people leaving the white people to decide for themselves what to be offended by

Accyexplorer · 12-05-2014, 09:41

Regarding the DJ, Is the BBC saying their DJ's should know every word on every track they play? hmmm
I don't remember them doing 'radio edits' in 1932, but if they did, would "the N word" of been removed? I doubt it

No chance of this getting played by a BBC DJ then:

And here is a brown skinned lady's thoughts on the song:

Margaret Pilkington · 12-05-2014, 09:47

It seems that it is alright for the BBC to play Jay-Z and Kanye Wests music which uses this frowned upon word...Why? Because it is spelled with an 'a'(as opposed to 'er'.....except that when it is sung how can you tell.
Maybe men of colour can call other men of colour what they like and it is OK.
Isn't that some kind of racism too?

accyman · 12-05-2014, 09:50

i watched a movie last night called ride along.Its a pretty new movie and is showing in cinemas with a 12A rating which means kids can watch it

can you guess what word comes up on multiple ocassions ?

it sounds like snigger with a silent S

so while the BBC are handing out appologies i think they shoudl give clarkson an appology to and a payrise to help with his divorce settlement

Accyexplorer · 12-05-2014, 09:59

"The N word" also featured in rush hour, using the phrase "What's up my Nigga"

gpick24 · 12-05-2014, 10:09

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Originally Posted by Accyexplorer

"The N word" also featured in rush hour, using the phrase "What's up my Nigga"

What that clip doesn`t show is chris tuckers character (Carter) saying the exact same thing a couple of minutes earlier

Accyexplorer · 12-05-2014, 10:26

[QUOTE=gpick24;1105991]What that clip doesn`t show is chris tuckers character (Carter) saying the exact same thing a couple of minutes earlier

Thats true g, fact is 'racism' has and always will be everywhere where there are "races", if you ask me, the sooner folk see there is only one race (human) the better.

One race,one love

accybeme · 12-05-2014, 11:25

too many words today are deemed to offend others, 50 years ago when I was a teenager life was so uncomplicated, we were always taught stick & stones, I do not condone attacking any other person with words that offend them but I do feel that it is no longer possible to just speak freely, one first has to analyse if any words may offend someone