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Old 08-09-2010, 18:40   #301
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What are the council saying? That the traders are being stick in the mud?

If there really was a demand for 6 day opening from the general public, why would the traders fight against it? They are the ones who would profit most from it.

I would go with the traders who know their own business. The Council will never succeed by co-ercion.
Many councillors remind me of that other old saying, when it comes to economics.

Those that can, do.

Those that can't, teach.
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Old 08-09-2010, 18:47   #302
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Many councillors remind me of that other old saying, when it comes to economics.

Those that can, do.

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Err......I don't think that's a quote from economics - or at least I don't remember it from my studies. I do remember that each year the exam questions were the same; the answers however, were different.
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Old 08-09-2010, 18:53   #303
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I do remember that each year the questions were the same; the answers however, were different.
Good grief, how similar to the Conservative answers on wi-fi at the Market Hall.

Let's see if they revert to the original promise of full installation when questioned at council next week.
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Old 09-09-2010, 19:07   #304
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Front page of the Observer tonight.

Can't be that big a deal then, can it?
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Old 09-09-2010, 19:51   #305
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Where is the brass plaque dedicated to Peter Britcliffe ?
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Old 09-09-2010, 20:45   #306
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Front page of the Observer tonight.

Can't be that big a deal then, can it?
Makes good reading. Ian Smith's family has had a stall on the market since 1929. His great ,great grand father was a stone mason who helped sculpt the statues on the market hall,so his heart is burned deep into the walls and floor.His passion for the market is very obvious if you talk to him. He and the traders are asking to be listened to.They can not sign the leases until the Market Handbook / regulations have been passed , the leases say that the traders agree to opening the hours and days stated in it . The draft copy says 6 days 9-5 !
They are not stupid , most have kept businesses running through the past economical problems in the counrty. So if a 6 day week would work they would be on it by now !!!! the old saying a made market day does not work is still true. I believe a survey was done by the traders of people visiting the market hall during the normal market days and the over whelming majority of people said they would not shop on a wednesdays in the market hall. This is not a commercial decission it is a political driven matter and to hell with who it crushes on the way. These are independant retailers not goverment owned and you will do well to remember that Our glorious leader !!
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Old 09-09-2010, 20:46   #307
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it is on the wall at the side of the Cafe`s. near the new lift. it says re opening of the market hall , it never closed !
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Old 09-09-2010, 22:43   #308
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it is on the wall at the side of the Cafe`s. near the new lift. it says re opening of the market hall , it never closed !
But it could well close if this lunacy regarding the new contracts is allowed to continue.
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Old 10-09-2010, 09:43   #309
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Makes good reading. Ian Smith's family has had a stall on the market since 1929. His great ,great grand father was a stone mason who helped sculpt the statues on the market hall,so his heart is burned deep into the walls and floor.His passion for the market is very obvious if you talk to him. He and the traders are asking to be listened to.They can not sign the leases until the Market Handbook / regulations have been passed , the leases say that the traders agree to opening the hours and days stated in it . The draft copy says 6 days 9-5 !
They are not stupid , most have kept businesses running through the past economical problems in the counrty. So if a 6 day week would work they would be on it by now !!!! the old saying a made market day does not work is still true. I believe a survey was done by the traders of people visiting the market hall during the normal market days and the over whelming majority of people said they would not shop on a wednesdays in the market hall. This is not a commercial decission it is a political driven matter and to hell with who it crushes on the way. These are independant retailers not goverment owned and you will do well to remember that Our glorious leader !!
Just bear in mind that the only real problem is the 'cheap political point-scoring' that myself and other councillors are doing. The market and the new lease agreements would be fine if the traders would simply move into the 21st century, it's just us evil Labour members picking on poor Cllrs Haworth and Britcliffe.

Honest.

We want that gallery to be full next week so that the Leader of the Council and the portfolio holder for markets (titles which they are quick to remind everyone of at every opportunity) can stand up and address their accusers with a rapier wit and a well-turned trouser.

I suspect the buck will be well and truly passed when the time comes.
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Old 10-09-2010, 09:46   #310
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I'll make a wager with anyone who's willing that Britcliffe can't answer any question next week without referring to Graham Jones.

The Market Hall problem? Graham Jones.....

Area Managerment calendars? If Graham Jones didn't own two houses.....

Taxi licensing? Under Graham Jones' leadership.......

Bet you. He just can't help himself.
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Old 10-09-2010, 11:13   #311
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Have any councillors declared an interest in the Market Hall, and therefore won't be voting?
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Have any councillors declared an interest in the Market Hall, and therefore won't be voting?
There are two types of interest in the Market Hall and it's success or failure:

a) A direct interest - a councillor (or his family/friends) actually having a stall within the Market Hall.

b) An indirect interest - a councillor (or his family/friends) running a retail outlet outside the Market Hall, but which nevertheless is in competition with those inside the Hall and as such it would be to their advantage to make trading conditions within the Market Hall as unfavourable as possible.

Are there any councillors who would fall into this latter category?
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There are two types of interest in the Market Hall and it's success or failure:

a) A direct interest - a councillor (or his family/friends) actually having a stall within the Market Hall.

b) An indirect interest - a councillor (or his family/friends) running a retail outlet outside the Market Hall, but which nevertheless is in competition with those inside the Hall and as such it would be to their advantage to make trading conditions within the Market Hall as unfavourable as possible.

Are there any councillors who would fall into this latter category?
I am sure you will provide those who don't already know with the answer.
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Old 10-09-2010, 15:57   #314
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Finally, today, I found the plaque :-

As someone mentioned earlier, the market hall NEVER closed (was a bit awkward at times, but never closed).
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Old 10-09-2010, 16:37   #315
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A suggestion / comments box will be available at Ian Smith's stall, M & I K Smith (Bacon and cook Meats) tomorrow Saturday 11th sept ,it will be there for approx 2 weeks .
The AMTA (Accrington Market Traders Association) want the points of view of the people and visitors to Accrington's Market and Market Hall.
All comments and suggestions welcomed ,new ideas , good or not so good. They would like your input. Please pass the message along to all you know.
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