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Anyone remember Boris and the Dansaks????

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thats a new one on me, more info please.

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John Cunliffe singer and Lennon look and soundalike, Geoff Greenwood lead guitar, Rishton John on bass, me Malcolm Whittaker drums. Played all the area youth clubs, town hall, wmclubs all around, we were quite well known and not bad if i say it myself. all at accy grammar at the time and it was "o" levels that did for the group - that and hp on our good equipment (20 quid in 4 not much a night!) It was great fun at the time - knew the Warriors. i have a picture but sadly no tapes.

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right remember vaguely now, john cunliffe n geoff greenwood went to ossy technical school, they were in my class, remember just about lol , geoff lived in the willows lane area as did john i think, aint seem either though fer many years.

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would the rishton john be john anderson? suspect it was he was also in my class at school, still playing with "Accy Rockers" if its him.;) geoff greenwoods nickname at school was "Haircut"

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Blimey - this is an amazing site - yes, John Anderson - his dad had a bike shop on a corner in rishton. i remember and will all my life after practising at his place over the shop we bought some chips and threw the paper in the road - came up a cop and next thing i knew dad and me down the juvenile place in accy - just a ticking off but have never littered since in my life - those beat bobbies new how justice and law and order worked - what a change from today on the streets. about "haircut", he somehow was responsible for us getting attacked in bacup irish wmc one night - thank goodness our "manager" and driver then demolished several attackers on our rush out and then police escort home with sirens blaring thru bacup - those were the days!!

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another local group at that time was the "Tredwheels" a old mate of mine was in them, they used to wear green lurex waistcoats. did a tour of germany i think, then disbanded. your paths may have crossed.:theband:

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remember the dansaks very well in the early sixties
my mate george was the drummer at the time so i think it
must have been after your good self ozzy john lived higher up than willow mount
on the flat part of willows lane geoff lived lower downand did for
many years with his mother geoff became a space cadet sorry to say

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I too remember The Dansaks well. Saw 'em quite a few times at various venues around town. Geoff lived just round the corner from me and sadly, as Beechy says, he lost it somewhat later. A couple of other bands I recall are The Dappers and The Soundcasters, whose lead singer, Tony Cooper, was in my class at AGS.

Any chance of posting your Dansaks picture on here, Malcolm?

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Who was your mate George beechy, used to know a lad from school was into the group scene, and he came from Clayton, but can't remember his surname though, he may also have had a brother too. This guy was a joiner and I worked with him at Shopfitters, can't for the life in me think of his surname

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george worked at shopfitters as i did
played drums for a few bands and is called
Mc avoy has a few brothers and sisters

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Ya beechy cashy just PM'd me, George Mc, great guy ain't seen him for years. If you worked at Shopfitters in that era I must know you, which department were you in? I started on Assembly, then went out on the road, worked on both shops and bars, I was a big mate of Cliff Whip charge hand of Assembly, used to drink with him later on when I lived in Hassy for a few years, sadly he's been dead for nearly 30 years now.

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worked in the glass dpt then mirrors
and later found myself being the boilerman
on the big lancashire boiler, used to mate around with Dougie Mitchell
although neither of us was in an Accy pop band of the 60s
:theband:

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Remember Dougie Mitchell, big guy, like a pint if I remember, I'm not sure but didn't he take on a Thwaites dray horse in a drinking bout and won:D, lived somewhere near the Polic/fire station in Accy

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seem to remember a group called
Shaddy ..had a female singer..:jimbo:

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:rofl38: :rofl38: :rofl38: :rofl38: good un

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I had a cousin from Clayton who was singer in the Dappers, his name was Billy Drinkwater, he was a joiner, and worked at Lancashire bar fitters, he worked with a bloke called Geoff Whiteside.

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the sundowners became the dappers or vice versa.;)

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I seem to remember Atarah, had some photos of pop groups some time ago, the sundowners etc, I looked at accrington uncovered, looks like they've been removed. be good to see them again.

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Good old Billy Bean, Billy and Sam Scott, put the first bar in Ossy Con around 1964, I as on the committee at the time and can remember talking to them at the time, and it wasn't long after that I got a job there too. Think Billy's brother played Cricket for Enfield

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He has three brothers Jaysay,Anthony, Raymond and Jeff, actually Jeff has just made contact after 40 odd years, he now lives in Peterbourgh and Billy ( Bean ) lives in Worcester.

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That name Billy Bean was a stage name he used when he fronted a band, it was Billy Bean and the ?????????? can't for the life in me think of the name.

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Billy Drinkwater ( Bean ) and the Dappers.

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Beechy - I remember now you mentioned the name George - he did play drums for a short time while I was not playing. I remember he had a Premier (?) kit - much better than mine and I had an occasional go on it while it was left in John Cunliffe's front room at 45 Willows Lane. I'm very sorry about Haircut Geoff. He was a good guy. Such a shame some people took against him - we had to have a police escort out of Bacup after playing at the Irish WMC there when someone decided they disliked him enuf to attack.

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Whatever happened to John Cunliffe? him n haircut were in my class at school.:)

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Talking about the groups Mr C, any chance of getting Roy Tayor or Mick Sturzaker to give us a bit of history of thier time in the groups they were in, In that great decade. It would be historically significant for the history of Accrington for generations to come and not just to focus on Jon Anderson & the Warriors.

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doubt it alan, Roy never talks much about it,plus don't see him that often, Mick aint n internet man, but will ask him fer any tales next time our paths cross.;)

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I like the Accy Rockers, they're well worth a look if they're in your neck of the woods, they do a lot of charity gigs and its usually a good night out

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Does anyone remember the James Boys? Apparently they narrowly missed out to Freddie & The Dreamers for an Opportubity Knocks spot in the 60's. I'm told they were good but don't know anyone outside of my immediate family who ever heard of them.

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sorry mate new un on me, will ask some old local band guys i see on friday nights.:)

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James Boys were regulars up Sydney st club
i seem to think they were a duo

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The Scorchers Mainly Clayton guys, went into a competition at the Cavern in Liverpool in the early 60s,and lost out to the Yardbirds if I remember rightly. Maybe David Robinson or Trevor Gardener, can clarify this or if anybody knows them they could asked them, I think they still live in the area. I mean it was 3 or 4 years of thier life they must have stories to tell, we have and we were'nt in bands.

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Anybody remember The Soundcasters? The line up was Tony Cooper, vocalist, who was in my class at AGS, Glenn Ainsworth, lead guitar, Maurice Blezzard, bass, Gary Hull, organist, and Dave Hull, drums. They played the usual round of dancehalls (Arts, Con) and youth clubs in the area in the mid-60's.

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if thats the case, musta been too drunk to remember em.:D

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Could you mean the James Turner 4 egg&chips. James was an hairdresser from Hassy, the ex-wife served her apprenticeship in his salon. They were better known as the J. Turner four, or Jay Turner four, bet cashy remembers them. Sadly James died a few years ago, at the time he had an hairdressers in Rishton

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I remember Ray Landon and the Midnight Hour were due to go for an audition for op knocks, but they split, or Ray Landon left. Can remember going to watch them one friday night at The Greyhound at Clayton, I was pally with the lead guitarist, the was called Henry, can't remember his last name. When I went in H told me that the singer had quit, and they asked me to fill in, did a couple of numbers. The Drummer as call Derek and the Rhythm guitar was Brendan. Another group I followed in the 70s was Copper Kettle, Eric Treewe was lead guitar, he now works with Brian Grubby in the Music Box? on Abbey Steet, think its the music box, the one that burned down a while ago, Eric could make the guitar talk, was once with Marty Wildes backing group The Weather

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Remember seeing a photo of my uncle, probably taken late fifties early sixties, of him playing in a group. Don't know the name of the group though. His name was Vincent Shaw. Anyone remember him or the group he was in? :)

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James boys were a duo and played most of the local clubs,as did the J Turner Four who as the name suggests weren't a duo.Saw them both in the early 70's along with White Sateen and the Blue Star Combo.:theband:

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bumped into the drummer of Blue Star Combo the other day, hes making a grand owd fella.:D

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Worked with Paul at Prestige 37 yrs ago.:eek:

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Cheers Beechy & Beni. My old boss Neil was in the band & explained the trick of taking a coachload to the audition who all wore rubber gloves to max out the applause volume (a well used trick apparently). Unfotunately this broke the clapometer and by the time it was fixed the Accy crowd had had to go home. Freddie & his strange dancing antics were thrust onto an unsuspecting public. It's funny how things work out isn't it?

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Jaysay and Beechy

Did you know my stepfather John Tomlinson; he worked at Shopfitters for 15 years both at Bullbridge and Ossy.
I used to play cricket for Shopfitters in the 1950s; Harry Brindale was captain.

Brian Stott

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i knew a john tomlinson from school (Accy Tech) tom cat we used to call him, came from up rossendale valley way, don't know if ya mean that guy, would be around 60 yrs old now.

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The name rings a bell, new a few who worked for them down Bullbridge, I started work at Shopfitters in June 1966, one of the old stagers was Peter Westwell was very heavily involved with Accrington Cricket Club and was goalie for the works team in the Accy Combination. What department did your stepdad work Brian

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Surprised nobody mentioned the Nosmo Kings, remember seeing them at a youth club, Whalley Rd Methodist I think, maybe 1964

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Any line up names, for Nosmo Kings, now theres one group Ive never heard of.

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The NOSMO KINGS went on to be The J TURNER FOUR

Nosmo King was a famous comedian,and took his name from a sign in a railway carriage NO SMOKING

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remember them les, but can't for the life in me (which ain't much:D)think of anyone in the group, will have to ask cashy next time I see him:rolleyes:

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I hadn't seen this post, when I made the above, didn't know about the comedian, but knew where the nme came from. Didn't realise the group were a forerunner of J. Turner Four:confused:

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must agree JavaScript never thought of them as the J Turner 4
had heard of them back in the 60s
wasnt J Turner a hairdresser from haslingden
whent on to run the nightclub in whalley the Valkiery or Sandpiper ?

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Spot on beechy, my ex-wife served her time at James's Salon in Hassy and he did have the Sandpiper, He later moved to Rishton and had a salon on the Main drag Hermitage Street I think its called, sadly he died a few years ago, about 5 I would think. The last time I saw him he was singing at the Stop and Rest in Ossy with the Accy Rockers, well some of them, that was in the late nineties.

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Roy Taylor was in the Tredwheels Al, a group i mentioned early in the thread, Mick Stirzaker still is into music, have a couple of his cds that he gave me n paris, spoke to him last week, is also giving guitar lessons to folk.;):)

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Vaguely remember them playing at the Con Club in Accy ....

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Nearly sure there was a big bloke played with them called Dave, can't think of his last name, but he used to work in a trade hardware store on a street which ran between Sandy Lane and Plantation Street, can't remember the street name or the store, :confused:

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jaysay would that be david tomlinson big guy with glasses who later played in several groups with royston jones and rodney hill.

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Spot on RB as soon as I saw the name I remember it right away:mosher:

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Remember Dave Tomlinson well....he and my brother David Duckworth were inseparable.They played with Royston James later too...and then became Jackanory.Anybody remember Kris Ryan and the Questions?

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do you mean R M Williams on Hargreaves Street?
Atarah

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Thanks Atarah, been racking my brains (yes I have one Neil:D)but couldn't remember the street or the firm, I was never away from the trade counter when I was a happyrentice

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both dave duckworth and dave tomlinson played in the deroys my ex was the singer.

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Last time I saw Rod Hill he was running a chippy on Whalley Road

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did david tomlinson work at jbbridges on church street many years ago

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He did I think Keith, went to williams when Bridges closed

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Never mind these no marks. What about Swinging Wilf?

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was only talking about him in the butchers a few weeks ago, remembering when he used to appear up the plough, was asking what became of him.:confused: anyone know?

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What about "Evil Doc Talbort" ? where has he gone?

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He lived in Fern Gore and died alone. Legend has it that no one was aware of his death for a few days and when he was eventually found his dog had started to eat him.

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I think the guy that made the most out of that was Jim the landlord, people came from miles around to see Wilf, my local was the Stop and Rest at the time and I was stopped on many occasions by out-of-towners asking where Wilf was appearing, the only pay he received was a few pints a night and he used to fill the pub Friday Saturday and Sunday, not to mention the merchandising, T shirts with "I've seen Swinging Wilf" on

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last i heard rod was teaching music at rhyddings school ossy.

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Better use of his talents then

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Jon Anderson lived on norfolk st with his sister joy and tony. he delivered milk for walt procter in the early 60s. the group he and tony were in were the warriors .Orange bedford ca van remember the horns.We watched them up the con every time, them were the days.
My mum once told him to leave the house for saying bloody hell and she would do the same today shes 88,

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:theband::theband::theband:

One of the most popular Accrington groups of the 1960/70's was Lennie and the Teenbeats. Lennie herbert was the brains behind the group which had Pete Hibbert as it's main singer. They were regulars at Accy Con Club and I also recall them appearing on the same bill as Billy Fury, with Georgie Fame and The Blue Flames at Barnoldswick Civic Hall. That was certainly a night to remember.

:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup: Stumped.

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remember well, sadly petes in poor health these days, never forget his "Eddie Cochran":(

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Billy Fury's one time backing band was
The Blue Flames. before Georgie Fame came along;)

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Talking about backing bands Marty Wilde's Backing band was The Weather, their Lead Guitar was Eric from the music box in Accy, now that lad could play the guitar, used to watch him regular in the 70s when he played lead in a Band called Copper Kettle, who were under the same management team as Rainbow Cottage another excellent band
By the way Eric's last name is Triwee, I think, well that's how I pronounced it, but I'm sure I ain't spelt it right:confused:

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It would be great to see some old photos of these groups from the 60s, Garth Dawson must have hundreds, he was always knocking about somewhere on a Saturday night, up the Con, the Arcs or somewhere, it would be a great legacy to those who were in those groups but never made the big time, ( please dont mention Jon A, its been done to death ). There were dozens of groups in those days, so maybe Garth or Bob Dobson, could come up with something, one of you must have a bit of influence. It would be a shame to lose that part of our history, What do you think.

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A lot of the lads from the 60s groups now turn out for Accy Rockers, who do a lot of charity gigs these days, when ever they play its more like jamming session than a gig, great nostalgia Alan

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Good idea, Al, I'd love to see some of those shots from the swinging sixties.

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those are pics i would really enjoy seeing, but being n eternal optimist - aint holding me breath.:D

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Hi havent put a photo on for ages. hope it works, should be The Dappers.

Happy New Year to all.

Atarah

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it looks like You got your Mojo working.:cool:
Happy New Year

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This should be Accrington's very own JIM PAYNE and JONESEY. what a hunk Jim Payne was!

Atarah

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great photo atarah, Tommys on wi friends at sydney st this afternoon, as usual.:)

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Haven't seen Pete for some time. Sorry to hear that he is in poor health. We were apprentices together in the 60's at English Electric.

Regards . . . Stumped

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quick question fer atarah. though they were virtually same, which came first? the Dappers or the Sundowners? me memory aint what it was.:D

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Hi, just a bit before my time. I never followed these groups, but did know of their existence. From what I remember Peter Hibbert telling me once, (he of course knew all the bands at that time), I "believe" it was The Sundowners name which The Dappers used first
Atarah

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thats the way i remember, but wouldn't like to put me shirt on.:D

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Before Jonesey, Jim was in a band called Accrington Stanley which also featured Rod Hill and Dave Foster from The Warriors, Brian Johnstone and local legend, Wammy. This is the great, lost Accy supergroup. They played a few gigs, recorded a few tracks and were all set to be signed by a major record label, but somehow it never happened and they broke up. There's a page devoted to them on Dave Foster's site...

Accrington Stanley / David Foster @ Highland Motorcycle Holidays

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Think it was the Sundowners, was in the same class as Frannie at school and he was playing with them then, we stayed on until we were 16

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Where was that photo taken Atarah, have you any idea?

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Oakhill Park bandstand, mate (according to the caption! ;))

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Didn't think I as going senile Wynonie, when I click on the photo to enlarge, there's no caption shows up:confused::confused::confused:

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That's strange, it shows up on mine. Oh well, my apologies, John. That's where it is and it's 1964 - looks like they were going for an early Rolling Stones look, maraccas and all! :)

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Well my computer is a bit like its owner Steve, a bit slow and over the hill, or in other words knackered:D

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All the guys who were in these groups, The Scorchers, Accrington Stanley, The Dappers, Sundowners, Cyclons, Francis T Construction, Tredwheels & saw on, Mark Day, you must hace photos & momentos of those times,

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Another local band doing the rounds in those days were Ray Landen and the Midnight Hour, The Lead guitarist was called Henry lived over West End Ossy, and the guy who formed the band ad I think e was Rhythm Guitar was called Brendan, can't remember his last name, but he lived up Shad, the Drummer was called Derek lived on Tennyson Avenue in Ossy too

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one of me mates, who i now see very infrequently was a Tredwheel Al, (roy taylor) but he talks very little about those days. still see a couple of dappers/sundowners pretty regular will ask em when next i see.:)

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Who was the Guitarist who used to have a little brush (Might even have been a toothbrush) tied on his Guitar?


Best Regards - Taggy

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was it a guy we called Snowy White,think he lived bottom
end of Willows Lane ?
:theband:

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He still goes up t'Stanley...lives somewhere in Cheshire now...think he's done a few folk concerts at the social club. I'll ask him if I get the chance.