Bye-election in Ossy - Page 2

garinda · 05-07-2009, 11:23

...and as for councillors living in the ward, I have it on very good authority from a mutual friend, and a neighbour of his, that a certain someone didn't even know where the Heys playing field where, and had to ask as to it's location.

garinda · 05-07-2009, 11:27

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Originally Posted by jaysay

The reason I just used Clayton Woman kate is simple, during an election campaign I will never ever use an opposition candidates name never have ever will, in letters leaflet or even now on sites like this

If all publicity is good publicity, including bad, you little chum Cllr. Britcliffe owes me big time.

Tealeaf · 05-07-2009, 11:49

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Originally Posted by jaysay

I will never ever use an opposition candidates name never have ever will, in letters leaflet or even now on sites like this, which didn't exist when I was active, why publicise your opponents name, people don't remember whats written on leaflets or in letters, but they do remember names.

Was this not a standard tactic of Mussolini's fascist party in Italy in the 1920's, Stalins USSR and of the National Socialist Party of Germany? Airbrush out the opposition and then they'll go away. I always thought of Jaysay as an old-fashioned democratic Tory...now I have a vision of him with as a man with a mustache, goosestepping up and down Union road in Ossy.....has anyone reported any sightings? I will offer lots of Karma for any piccys.

BERNADETTE · 05-07-2009, 11:52

I seem to remember Graham Jones making a big noise about living in the area in the recent local elections. He certainly let it be known which candidates didn't live in the ward they were applying to represent.

Gayle · 05-07-2009, 12:08

Well I've said on many occasions that I think that the ward should be represented by someone who lives there, or at least in the case of Ossy to at least live within Ossy if not the ward itself.

I sort of feel that if you're trying to get on the Council and you're going for any seat that means that you want to be on the Council more than you want to represent your area. However, in Dorothy's case it's slightly different as she did used to live in Ossy when she was elected to LCC (I think) and has only recently lost her LCC seat so she's been active in Ossy for a long time.

Perhaps, the other argument to 'age' is that we want representing by someone who has the time to do it - if they're retired then it means they can attend meetings etc without having to juggle a job as well.

garinda · 05-07-2009, 12:33

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Originally Posted by Gayle

Well I've said on many occasions that I think that the ward should be represented by someone who lives there

House prices have fallen enough already, without us having to have Cllr. Britcliffe living in our actual ward.

Neil · 05-07-2009, 12:51

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Originally Posted by garinda

Money is now in place to build proper changing facilities, renew the drainage system, and resurface the all weather pitch, besides the fencing, all thanks to Dorothy's hard work.

Dorothy was involved yes but she certainly did not do all the work herself. St. Mary's Football Club and Rhyddings School have raised most of the money from what I understand. I was at a presentation about The co operation between Rhyddings and St Mary's a while back.

jaysay · 06-07-2009, 09:50

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Originally Posted by Gayle

Well I've said on many occasions that I think that the ward should be represented by someone who lives there, or at least in the case of Ossy to at least live within Ossy if not the ward itself.

I sort of feel that if you're trying to get on the Council and you're going for any seat that means that you want to be on the Council more than you want to represent your area. However, in Dorothy's case it's slightly different as she did used to live in Ossy when she was elected to LCC (I think) and has only recently lost her LCC seat so she's been active in Ossy for a long time.

Perhaps, the other argument to 'age' is that we want representing by someone who has the time to do it - if they're retired then it means they can attend meetings etc without having to juggle a job as well.

Dorothy didn't live in Ossy anytime during her tenure as on CC or HBC she lived in Spring Hill but never Ossy, as for juggling jobs Judith is retired and actually lived in Ossy many years

garinda · 06-07-2009, 10:14

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Originally Posted by Gayle

neither party seems to be putting up a fight

I know someone who lives in the ward who has been aggressively approached by both women for their vote.

Aggressive as in keen, not as in a threatening violence.

Puffing Billy · 06-07-2009, 12:04

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Originally Posted by Neil

Dorothy was involved yes but she certainly did not do all the work herself. St. Mary's Football Club and Rhyddings School have raised most of the money from what I understand. I was at a presentation about The co operation between Rhyddings and St Mary's a while back.

The small committee of St. Marys football club have worked wonders on this project. They are the ones who need recognition for all their unpaid, very hard work.

Gayle · 06-07-2009, 12:21

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Originally Posted by garinda

I know someone who lives in the ward who has been aggressively approached by both women for their vote.

Aggressive as in keen, not as in a threatening violence.

I didn't mean it like that - I'm sure both ladies are putting up a fight and are both going to work hard if they get in. I just meant that both ladies are of a similar age and similar enthusiasm for the role, probably similar capability too so it doesn't seem much of a contest in some respects.

jaysay · 06-07-2009, 16:01

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Originally Posted by Gayle

I didn't mean it like that - I'm sure both ladies are putting up a fight and are both going to work hard if they get in. I just meant that both ladies are of a similar age and similar enthusiasm for the role, probably similar capability too so it doesn't seem much of a contest in some respects.

Thats reassuring Gayle me being in the same age group as you, you've made me feel a hell of a sight younger

Neil · 06-07-2009, 17:50

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Originally Posted by Puffing Billy

The small committee of St. Marys football club have worked wonders on this project. They are the ones who need recognition for all their unpaid, very hard work.

I know, thats why I wanted to set the record straight.

katex · 06-07-2009, 20:15

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Originally Posted by Neil

I know, thats why I wanted to set the record straight.

I do feel Neil, that this is not doing Dorothy's bid for election any favours ... 'build 'em up, knock 'em down tactics'. Statement was made that she had worked hard for Heys Playing Fields, you negate it by stating that it was due to joint efforts between Rhydding and St. Mary's. Of course these two bodies have worked hard towards this project, no denying that, but all funding did not come from this area as per report here, which I am sure was fought for by Dorothy :-

http://www3.lancashire.gov.uk/counci...A&FILEID=38742

All psychological clever stuff.

We having no past history of the opposition, so can only speculate what she may be capable of.

Neil · 07-07-2009, 05:16

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Originally Posted by katex

Of course these two bodies have worked hard towards this project, no denying that, but all funding did not come from this area as per report here, which I am sure was fought for by Dorothy :-

http://www3.lancashire.gov.uk/counci...A&FILEID=38742

Please don't forget that this is LCC land that they should have fenced off many years ago to prevent the abuse of it by cars, 4x4's and motorbikes. Also don't forget how much money LCC have to play with each year and how long this has been going on for.

The Football association would appear to be stumping up half the project cost (if they are lucky).

I did not say Dorothy did not work hard, I just wanted people to realise it was not her lone crusade and that she probably only got involved because the other bodies who came up with the idea went to her.

I would have been impressed if she had arranged for the full £1 million to have been made available for the project.