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Old 07-07-2009, 07:37   #31
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Re: Bye-election in Ossy

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she probably only got involved
I prefer to deal in facts, rather than wild assumptions.
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Old 07-07-2009, 08:48   #32
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Why do you know she started the whole project off and got everyone else involved?
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Old 07-07-2009, 10:02   #33
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Why do you know she started the whole project off and got everyone else involved?
I've never posted that she did.

I said she worked tirelessly for this cause, which she has, and was instrumental in it's success.

Fact.

(See the difference between fact, and posting wild guesses?)
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Old 07-07-2009, 10:26   #34
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I live near Heys field.
I saw Mrs Westell visit the site several times and she took the trouble to keep us (nearby residents) informed of developments.
I got the impression that she is a politician who cares.
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Old 07-07-2009, 13:45   #35
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I got the impression that she is a politician who cares.
All politicians care, its about what we have to be careful about
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Old 16-07-2009, 19:05   #36
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All politicians care, its about what we have to be careful about
Interesting to note the small piece in the Observer... Dorothy quotes that she has always been interested in Ossie (no mention of the Labour party); whilst Judith quotes that she has always been a Conservative voter, and now an opportunity to stand sooner than she thought.

Ok...possibly certain quotes extracted by the reporter .. but the way the report has been presented speaks volumes to me.

I am not canvassing for either side by the way... trying to be objective.
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Old 16-07-2009, 20:28   #37
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Interesting to note the small piece in the Observer... Dorothy quotes that she has always been interested in Ossie (no mention of the Labour party); whilst Judith quotes that she has always been a Conservative voter, and now an opportunity to stand sooner than she thought.

Ok...possibly certain quotes extracted by the reporter .. but the way the report has been presented speaks volumes to me.

I am not canvassing for either side by the way... trying to be objective.
Then why does she not stand as an Independant and be more objective?
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Old 16-07-2009, 21:06   #38
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Then why does she not stand as an Independant and be more objective?
That was my point Royboy ... party before the people maybe ?
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Old 17-07-2009, 10:13   #39
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Interesting to note the small piece in the Observer... Dorothy quotes that she has always been interested in Ossie (no mention of the Labour party); whilst Judith quotes that she has always been a Conservative voter, and now an opportunity to stand sooner than she thought.

Ok...possibly certain quotes extracted by the reporter .. but the way the report has been presented speaks volumes to me.

I am not canvassing for either side by the way... trying to be objective.
No mention of the Labour Party, kate you want to see her leaflet, In over 40 years in politics I have never seen a leaflet from an official political party candidate which doesn't say they are the party candidate, no mention of Labour (except the imprint) , no Red Rose emblem, no Address, and a statement saying that she is paying for the leaflet and campaigning out of her own pocket, just as if she is trying to convince people she is an independent, or is it she is just ashamed to be associated with Labour
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Old 17-07-2009, 18:06   #40
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I don't think that anything would have gone out of Labour office without it being approved - mostly because Graham Jones handles all the printed leaflets. So I suspect that it is a Labour tactic rather than it being Dorothy's own statement.
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I think you should have to state which party you represent. It should be bold and obvious.
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Old 18-07-2009, 00:34   #42
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Interesting to note the small piece in the Observer... Dorothy quotes that she has always been interested in Ossie (no mention of the Labour party); whilst Judith quotes that she has always been a Conservative voter, and now an opportunity to stand sooner than she thought.

Ok...possibly certain quotes extracted by the reporter .. but the way the report has been presented speaks volumes to me.

I am not canvassing for either side by the way... trying to be objective.
It also mentions that Judith trained as a preacher.

To me religion and politics make uneasy bedfellows, as in the case of the odious Mr Logan, formerly the Rev. Logan.
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Old 18-07-2009, 08:50   #43
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I don't think that anything would have gone out of Labour office without it being approved - mostly because Graham Jones handles all the printed leaflets. So I suspect that it is a Labour tactic rather than it being Dorothy's own statement.
Come of it Gayle, it actually says on the leaflet that she is paying for the leaflet and all campaigning out of her own pocket, if that was the case I'd sure as hell won't my say as to what was going out in my name, if as you say its a Labour tactic, just goes to show what a deceitful desperate party they have become, oh yes and by the way, its printed in Black too the colour used by independents, what a dreadful shoddy show Labour are have become
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Old 18-07-2009, 11:02   #44
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This is definitely a tactic by both parties.... Dorothy did say that she lost her seat on the LCC due to national issues, so this is probably why no big mention of her party.

Judith, on the other hand, is pushing the Tory party like crazy in the hope it will work again.

A shame really that most of the voting public will view it this way, and not consider which candidate will be the most useful.

Let's face it Jaysay, if the Torys put up a monkey, you would vote for it ...
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Old 18-07-2009, 12:36   #45
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This is definitely a tactic by both parties.... Dorothy did say that she lost her seat on the LCC due to national issues, so this is probably why no big mention of her party.

Judith, on the other hand, is pushing the Tory party like crazy in the hope it will work again.

A shame really that most of the voting public will view it this way, and not consider which candidate will be the most useful.

Let's face it Jaysay, if the Torys put up a monkey, you would vote for it ...
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So long as it was a good looking monkey
But seriously the Tories were in just the same position as Labour are now back in the 90s and there is no way would we ever put out leaflets without indicating the Party or without a Logo, which ever way you look at it is just a tad dishonest, you should never be ashamed of the party you represent. Who's the best candidate? Well to me its the one that actually lives in the town. I can remember in he 90s when we had Labour councillors foisted on us from the peoples republic of Spring Hill, there were 8 Labour councillors in all and Ossy got nout
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