World War 1 - Page 5

suedarbo · 01-03-2009, 20:40

OLDHAM, Pte. Richard, G/5345 (8th Bn., Queen's Own (Royal West Kent Regt.)); s. of Riley and Eliza Oldham; husband of Sarah Ann Oldham; lived at 38 Kay Street, Oswaldtwistle; k.i.a. 26th September 1915 (26); comm. Loos Memorial. [2, 3, 4, 16]

This was my grandads brother. Riley and Eliza Oldham are my great grandparents. Any more information on Richard would be greatly appreciated.

Retlaw · 01-03-2009, 21:42

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Originally Posted by suedarbo

OLDHAM, Pte. Richard, G/5345 (8th Bn., Queen's Own (Royal West Kent Regt.)); s. of Riley and Eliza Oldham; husband of Sarah Ann Oldham; lived at 38 Kay Street, Oswaldtwistle; k.i.a. 26th September 1915 (26); comm. Loos Memorial. [2, 3, 4, 16]

This was my grandads brother. Riley and Eliza Oldham are my great grandparents. Any more information on Richard would be greatly appreciated.

Richard was reported as missing 6-5-1915, during the battle of Loos.
His widow Sarah Ann was not officially notified until Oct 1916.

He is remembered on the Loos Memorial.

Retlaw.
I've also got Oldhams in my parish registers files from 1800 back to the first registers in the 1500's

suedarbo · 01-03-2009, 22:06

That is amazing, thankyou so much.

If you can point me in the right direction of th Oldhams going back so far, I would be eternally grateful. I've come to a stand still at 1845.
Thanks for the picture it's the first one I've seen of him. You're a saint.

Retlaw · 01-03-2009, 22:13

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Originally Posted by suedarbo

That is amazing, thankyou so much.

If you can point me in the right direction of th Oldhams going back so far, I would be eternally grateful. I've come to a stand still at 1845.
Thanks for the picture it's the first one I've seen of him. You're a saint.

Accrington Library, reference room, they have the copies of the parish registers, which were transcribed by the late Jack Broderick, and the indexed copies I made in Dbase4.

There are several Oldham's in the 1841 census, I indexed that as well, its also in the library.
Retlaw.

suedarbo · 01-03-2009, 22:15

Thankyou

Andrew Jackson · 02-03-2009, 08:13

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Originally Posted by Retlaw

I have a William Mozart Booth in my files.
Lived at 69 Blackburn Rd Gt Harwood.
Is he the man, because if he is you won't
like what I found in his papers.

Retlaw.

I think this is very unfair of you, Walter. William Mozart Booth joined up voluntarily as early in the war as 8th September 1914. I guess that your comment is based on the fact that he was discharged on 18th October for 'not likely to become an efficient soldier'. In fact, the specific reason for his discharge was that he was medically unfit (no teeth). His character for the short time of his military service was described as 'very good'. As regards the story that he was gassed, I suppose that neither you nor I can know for sure that he didn't re-enlist, perhaps even under an alias.

Retlaw · 02-03-2009, 10:45

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I think this is very unfair of you, Walter. William Mozart Booth joined up voluntarily as early in the war as 8th September 1914. I guess that your comment is based on the fact that he was discharged on 18th October for 'not likely to become an efficient soldier'. In fact, the specific reason for his discharge was that he was medically unfit (no teeth). His character for the short time of his military service was described as 'very good'. As regards the story that he was gassed, I suppose that neither you nor I can know for sure that he didn't re-enlist, perhaps even under an alias.

I have already pm'd the enquirer with the details of Booths file. It makes no mention of his having no teeth, and that is no reason for discharge. The only thing I can suggest is you stick to sorting out the dozens of errors in the tripe you call a web site, especially the war memorial errors. When is the penny going to drop that there are 5 men named twice on the Accy memorial, and that one man on there survived.

Retlaw

Andrew Jackson · 02-03-2009, 12:33

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Originally Posted by Retlaw

I have already pm'd the enquirer with the details of Booths file. It makes no mention of his having no teeth, and that is no reason for discharge. The only thing I can suggest is you stick to sorting out the dozens of errors in the tripe you call a web site, especially the war memorial errors. When is the penny going to drop that there are 5 men named twice on the Accy memorial, and that one man on there survived.

Retlaw

Perhaps you should check the WO364 series as well as the WO363 series. The records are clear enough that lack of teeth was the sole reason for his discharge.

It's easy to criticize and it would be just as easy for me to point the errors in your own work. I've asked you before on this forum to point out the errors so that they can be corrected, but you haven't chosen to respond. The tripe comment is just silly.

Retlaw · 02-03-2009, 13:34

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Originally Posted by Andrew Jackson

Perhaps you should check the WO364 series as well as the WO363 series. The records are clear enough that lack of teeth was the sole reason for his discharge.

It's easy to criticize and it would be just as easy for me to point the errors in your own work. I've asked you before on this forum to point out the errors so that they can be corrected, but you haven't chosen to respond. The tripe comment is just silly.

I've been through those series, so far found the records for 413 men and I've just started on C's.

As for pointing out your errors, so they can be corrected, thats your trouble, if you were any good, you would see the errors and not rely on other people to clean up your mess. I've got more important things to do for my records, than to do your work.

As for my errors, you don't have access to my work to know of any errors. All the work Bill Turner and I did on updating the PALS files are in a sealed file, to which you are specifically denied access, in Bills will.

Retlaw.

polly · 09-03-2009, 09:24

Retlaw

I just wondered if you had anything on Seth Burrows, he was my step-grandfather. He never talked about his war experiences and as a child I was always told not to ask.

I am guessing he would have been in his late teens at the time of the 1st WW. although originally from Preston he did spend much of his life in Accrington and in the 1970's was the doorman at Platt's Club (Bulloughs)

Retlaw · 09-03-2009, 09:53

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Retlaw

I just wondered if you had anything on Seth Burrows, he was my step-grandfather. He never talked about his war experiences and as a child I was always told not to ask.

I am guessing he would have been in his late teens at the time of the 1st WW. although originally from Preston he did spend much of his life in Accrington and in the 1970's was the doorman at Platt's Club (Bulloughs)

Seth Smith Burrows Private. 1526. 1st East Lancs. Lived at 26 Union St, Accrington. Wrote home to his parents in June 1915 that he was in hospital in Malta, suffering fromn six bullet wounds in his leg, I'll soon be back in England. Seth was discharged frrom the army 9-8-1916.
formerly worked at Entwistle & Kenyons.

Retlaw

polly · 09-03-2009, 10:05

Thanks for that Retlaw. I have learnt more from your post about him than i
I learn t in the last 40+ years.

just one further question, how do you k now what he wrote home?