Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1023046)

I don't think the companies have my best interests at heart, they have their own best interests at heart. I pay because I am not a freeloader....I do not expect anyone else to pay my power bills, or for my utilities either.
I don't see myself as a cash cow either....a customer, yes.

Yes, you are selfish...no maybe about it.

Here ends my participation in this thread......it is becoming as circular of those of your alter ego.

Originally Posted by Chris SUI JURIS (Post 1023044)

Sounds like you was living my dream sue(apart from the well,which was'nt me before you ask ;)) Can i ask why you left that lifestyle?

No Accyweb :eek::eek::eek:

Originally Posted by susie123 (Post 1023051)

Yes you may ask... my other half was trying to run his own business from home selling computer software to engineering companies and fixing people's computers as a sideline - but as the year 2000 approached and people got scared by Y2K (the Millennium bug) his business dropped off and our income diminished. He was head hunted by an ex colleague for a job in the midlands and so we left our country cottage where we had lived for 18 years. Having bought it as a wreck and extended and refurbished we made a lot of money on it which helped a lot. We then moved into a 200 yr old property right in the centre of a town, just for a change.

Originally Posted by Boeing Guy (Post 1023071)

has he mentioned the Magna Carta yet?

Originally Posted by Boeing Guy (Post 1023071)

has he mentioned the Magna Carta yet?

Originally Posted by Less (Post 1023072)

He might have done, but it seems that, according to Cashy he's stolen Jay's spell checker so who knows how it turned out.
:confused:

Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 1023073)

Nag at carma ! ;)

Originally Posted by Restless (Post 1023592)

Where is the proof that he took pics through a 9 year olds window? What we have here is an annoying ahole for 6 mins saying the same thing over and over.

Originally Posted by Chris SUI JURIS (Post 1023625)

ALLEGEDLY The police were called but it appears that they cannot be prosecuted for voyeurism of a minor. it may come as a shock to some but effectively alleged TV licence evasion is seen as a worse crime.


ALLEGEDLY TV licence cheats make up a TENTH of all magistrate court cases.....I BET THEY DO THERE MONEY GENERATING ACE HOLES

TV licence cheats make up a TENTH of all magistrate court cases | Mail Online

Originally Posted by annesingleton (Post 1023797)

Just pay your bills and stop making excuses and trying to justify it, we aren't in the eighties now! And stop trying to create waves! If you're an adult living independently you have to pay the bills whether you like it or not unless its something genuinely unfair which an enormous amount of people object to, in which case organise an official protest - you as an individual won't make the slightest difference and you will be the only loser. The system will win every time whether you like it or not. Don't give your opinions on this site for the sake of reaction, do it properly if you think its worth it!

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1023799)

Yer wasting yer breath Anne, we had this geezer here before under a different guise.;)

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1023799)

Yer wasting yer breath Anne, we had this geezer here before under a different guise.;)

Originally Posted by Chris SUI JURIS (Post 1023804)

I pay my 'bills' (except water and council tax)

"you have to pay the bills whether you like it or not unless its something genuinely unfair" Like deliberately poisoning our water or warcrimes?

"you as an individual won't make the slightest difference and you will be the only loser" I don't mean to sound like a egoistical ace hole,but i seem to be doing ok anne

Originally Posted by annesingleton (Post 1023812)

How come you haven't been prosecuted for non payment of council tax? It usually happens within a few months and you will also be charged a lot extra. Likewise although it takes a bit longer the water people will eventually get you. I don't really understand how you have got away without paying unless you are constantly moving house, which must be very inconvenient for you!
Pay the council tax and buy a water filter for goodness sake! When you think about the state of the water system in most of the world including our European neighbours, be lucky that the worst you have to think of is fluoride and chlorine - at least you can flush your toilet and wash your clothes even if you choose not to drink the perfectly safe water. I don't know if you are deliberately trying to wind people up for the sake of it or whether you are genuinely naive and wanting to rebel - in either case should you not be thinking about doing a bit of growing up?

Originally Posted by Chris SUI JURIS (Post 1023805)

Do you have proof of claim cash? ;)

Originally Posted by Neil (Post 1023886)

Who needs proof?
I am surprised I have not banned you yet just because I think you maybe someone else.

Originally Posted by Chris SUI JURIS (Post 1023891)

Don't threat just do it,if it makes you feel big an clever ;)

Bye Accyweb :D

Originally Posted by Michael1954 (Post 1023873)

This discussion about common law has been covered before in a thread started by Kenny. We have already had the arguments for and against. You might want to look it up, Chris, if you are interested.

Originally Posted by Chris SUI JURIS (Post 1023891)

Don't threat just do it,if it makes you feel big an clever ;)

Bye Accyweb :D

Originally Posted by Neil (Post 1023910)

Nothing to do with being big and clever, it's about keeping AccyWeb a decent forum without trolls, trouble makers and idiots.

Originally Posted by Chris SUI JURIS (Post 1023914)

guess i'm excluded then ;)

Originally Posted by Gordon Booth (Post 1023916)

We should be so lucky!
Or have I said that before about you? Well, repeating it can do no harm.

Originally Posted by Chris SUI JURIS (Post 1023924)

Yawn :rolleyes:

Originally Posted by Chris SUI JURIS (Post 1023805)

Do you have proof of claim cash? ;)

Originally Posted by Neil (Post 1023910)

Nothing to do with being big and clever, it's about keeping AccyWeb a decent forum without trolls, trouble makers and idiots.

Originally Posted by Chris SUI JURIS (Post 1023905)

No not interested...SUI JURIS http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/clear.gif

Originally Posted by Michael1954 (Post 1023873)

This discussion about common law has been covered before in a thread started by Kenny. We have already had the arguments for and against. You might want to look it up, Chris, if you are interested.

Originally Posted by Michael1954 (Post 1023998)

Which is probably why not many people on here are interested in you or your views.

Originally Posted by Michael1954 (Post 1023996)

Eh? Don't you mean a decent forum without trolls, trouble makers and idiots?

Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 1024024)

If we didn't have the TV licence then BBC would have ad breaks. Having no ad breaks to me is a good reason to pay for a TV licence.

Originally Posted by Boeing Guy (Post 1024017)

I see the thief is still at it.
Well for those interested, here is a link, explaining the concepts he hold dear.
Freeman on the land - RationalWiki

Of course words are not very effective

Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 1024024)

If we didn't have the TV licence then BBC would have ad breaks. Having no ad breaks to me is a good reason to pay for a TV licence.

Originally Posted by Boeing Guy (Post 1024017)

Of course words are not very effective

Originally Posted by Restless (Post 1024778)

Just for a few of channels?.. Nah. I can't agree with that

sounds about right to me...

Originally Posted by Boeing Guy (Post 1024809)

The thing is this, if you use something that does not belong to you, example the service the BBC or the United utilities provide for a cost. Then you are stealing, this makes you a thief.

If our thief has issue with this, then maybe he should consider paying his way. Much like the rest of us.

Btw ignoring this person is great. No stress at all

Originally Posted by Michael1954 (Post 1024845)

I thought you were ignoring this person, BG?

Originally Posted by Boeing Guy (Post 1024840)

We live in a world where over 780 million people do not have access to clean drinking water.
Yet here we have a 'person' or what ever he /she/it wants to be? Claiming that united utilities do not provide water that is to his* exacting standards, what ever they are. We are not privy to these, after all they are more than likely rubbish.
Yet this person* is more than happy to carry on receiving this and also having any waste water removed and treated. Furthermore he* is taking the high ground in claiming he* is in the right. Despite the water companies having to provide water to exacting standards as laid out by the WHO, this person* knows better.
Then there is the issue of TV licence, do I want one, no, but I pay it.
I could list many reasons why and in the light of recent scandals at the BBC one wonders, but it ones own to this, I want to live in this society we have in the UK and as such I pay my way.
This person* obviously knows better than the rest of us or is a complete.....well I would rather not say.

*please refer to the second sentence, as he* is not a person he*. Must not be of this earth

Just to say, this is the Oxford Dictionary definition of Person

Definition of person
noun (plural people or persons)
human being regarded as an individual


Obviously he* is not human

Originally Posted by Boeing Guy (Post 1024848)

Of course if Chris decides to claim Person is a legal term using Blacks Legal Dictionary, there's not much to say....except it is not a book used in English Law, the Law Society have over 3500 volumes they refer to.
But the Freeman of the Land movement don't recognise this, still they have not had any real success in UK court of law even though they don't believe in them.

Originally Posted by Boeing Guy (Post 1024853)

Chris,
You use water piped into your house, you have admitted to this, you also use the sewerage system. Therefore you have to pay for it.
You will end up in court and you will lose. I am bored of this, you need help

Originally Posted by Boeing Guy (Post 1024862)

Chris, I have not given you any bad Karma.
As you are on my ignore list, I can only see you and your posts when I am not signed in, this stops me giving you bad Karma. Although some one has given unsigned good Karma, cheers for that
As I said I am bored with this conversation it is going nowhere, you see your demands on United Utilities are unreasonable, as they cannot answer almost all of them with 100% accuracy, something you requested.

Originally Posted by Barrie Yates (Post 1024856)

It is my understanding that the Licence Fee is in fact a licence to operate a radio/TV receiver. The revenue from the licence fee does not go directly to the BBC but to the government who then fund the BBC. That is perhaps why it is legal to watch a programme via your compter as that is not a radio/TV receiver.

Maybe the "Freemen" will have something to whinge about when - if he is not paying his utility and TV charges as he intimates, the various agencies take him to court and he is required to pay, or better still to go on a rather restricted holiday

Originally Posted by Chris SUI JURIS (Post 1024852)

Here is a abstract from my letter to United Utilities

I would be happy to discuss settlement of any financial obligation I might owe, as soon as I receive the following documentation from you:
1. Validation of the ‘bill’ (the actual accounting including costs per dwelling of adding chemicals and/or medication to my water supply);
2.. Unequivocal evidence that United Utilities Group PLC are not medicating myself and my family members by adding chemical additives to the water supply
3.Unequivocal evidence that the fluoride added to the water supply by United Utilities Group PLC is not a bi-product of the agro-chemical industry and therefore deemed as industrial waste
4.Unequivocal evidence that there are any benefits to humans resulting from the consumption of fluoride in the water supply;
5.Unequivocal evidence that there are no harmful side effects from other chemicals (including chlorine) added to the water supply by United Utilities Group PLC

It is my view that every human being has a right to a clean, safe and health promoting water supply and that United Utilities Group PLC are in breach of this human right and therefore in breach of their duty of care.

Originally Posted by Guinness (Post 1024943)

If that is gonna be your defence you are on a hiding to nothing. Most laws are based on the word 'reasonable'. In your case it is 'unreasonable' to request 'unequivocable' evidence since that would require the water company to state something it cannot. Which you know quite well. However the onus of proof would be on you to show that the water delivered to you was not clean, safe and health promoting.

It could easily be argued that since everyone else was in fact paying their bills, and that no-one had actually had any serious adverse effects from using it, that it was reasonable to suppose that the water was clean, safe and health promoting.

You are playing the system, just like the MP's who use the excuse thats its legal to scam their expenses.

Eventually you will get your wish to get your day in court and you will come out the worse for it. Say hello to Bubba for me :)

Originally Posted by Chris SUI JURIS (Post 1024949)

What about just evidence instead of 'unequivocable' evidence? :D
I'm pretty sure if i had to i could knock up a legal argument about health issues relating to water :pwink:
In my eyes it's war with UU so the gloves are off :D but if your right and i do go court(if i decide to Accept there invite that is) i'll record it and you can watch it on youtube and if i go on a vacation to HMP (which theres no chance of) i'll pass your regards onto Bubba :D

Originally Posted by Chris SUI JURIS (Post 1024949)

What about just evidence instead of 'unequivocable' evidence? :D
I'm pretty sure if i had to i could knock up a legal argument about health issues relating to water :pwink:
In my eyes it's war with UU so the gloves are off :D but if your right and i do go court(if i decide to Accept there invite that is) i'll record it and you can watch it on youtube and if i go on a vacation to HMP (which theres no chance of) i'll pass your regards onto Bubba :D

Originally Posted by Boeing Guy (Post 1024956)

Of course it's easier to carry on not paying bills........

Originally Posted by Guinness (Post 1024952)

You'll definitely be meeting Bubba my friend :D

Non-attendance at court - warrant issued for arrest

As for video recording (which is only allowable at the courts discretion), it's for personal use only, which will be made clear at the hearing. If you put it on youtube, my guess is you'd be up for contempt.

If you've declared war, you're gonna need a gun not a peashooter ;)

Originally Posted by Barrie Yates (Post 1024973)

That is if he is not paying the bills - sounds like a load of BS from a troll. He says he isn't but I just do not beleive him - perhaps being economical with the truth is the mildest comment one can make.
So Mr Freemen prove to Accyweb that you are not paying the bills as you have stated.

Originally Posted by Restless (Post 1024977)

Chris what do you do for a living ?

Originally Posted by Boeing Guy (Post 1024956)

Although you say you are not a Freeman on the land....you talk just like one, accept a invite to court....so what will you do when a Police Officer arrests you, they will not be swayed by your pseudo legal arguments.

IF you are that concerned about your water supply you should have it tested,
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Of course it's easier to carry on not paying bills........

Originally Posted by boeing guy (Post 1025001)

chris, for someone who wants clarity and honesty from a utilities company, you do speak in riddles.

So here is a easy question.
Do you receive any financial benefits off the state? Yes or no

Originally Posted by Boeing Guy (Post 1025016)

Chris,
Contrary to popular belief, I have a life outside of Accyweb.
My last post was made while Mrs BG was in the lady's at a coffee shop in Preston, it's something we do at weekends. I simply used my Galaxy s3 to look and post.
I have just returned home and upon checking my email etc see you have posted.

At no time I have even insinuated you are a benefits scrounger or otherwise.
I have refered to you as a theif, as you are using something your not paying for, the semantics don't come into it.
Your self employed, yet you refuse to pay income tax, regardless of your beliefs you will find yourself in a court and if you carry on in jail. You see it does not matter what you believe, the government as the power and means to take your liberty away. Non paying of tax is one of their favourites.

Originally Posted by Chris SUI JURIS (Post 1024997)

I'm self employed, jack of all trades master of none and before you ask no i don't pay income tax :eek::eek: ;)

Originally Posted by Boeing Guy (Post 1025023)

As said earlier on, If you want to live in 21st century Great Britain, you have to follow the rules put down by its government, whether you agree or not is irreverent, the state has the means and the power to make you bend to their will.

Originally Posted by Restless (Post 1025028)

I can't say that really answers my question

Originally Posted by Chris SUI JURIS (Post 1025046)

do you want my work history for the last 5 yrs :D

:

Originally Posted by Neil (Post 1023910)

Nothing to do with being big and clever, it's about keeping AccyWeb a decent forum without trolls, trouble makers and idiots.

Originally Posted by Barrie Yates (Post 1025051)

He appears to meet all the requirements - surely it is time to get rid of the obnoxious specimen

Originally Posted by Restless (Post 1025049)

Dont think you are supposed to call out the karmas....

Anyway. Nah. for instance. I earn my living currently as a Clerical assistant but not for the JC.



It would help me discover what you actually DO for a living

Originally Posted by Chris SUI JURIS (Post 1025047)

MARGRET PILKINGTON....rather than giving bad karma and saying i spout BS join in and have your say in a public forum...maybe you have the answer to why my comment was BS and your willing to prove me wrong for all to see then you can all have a laugh? or maybe not and your just F,O,S :rolleyes: