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garinda · 10-08-2005, 15:03

Anymore news on the story in The Evening Standard?

Busman747 · 10-08-2005, 16:30

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

According to the Daily Mail, if he doesn't return by the 19th of August, he does not have the rights to be let in. Here's hoping his flight is delayed.... by about 2 weeks.

Apparently the powers to stop him returning are in place -------but Ministers do not want to rock the boat before Tony Blair finishes his 2 week consultation on how to act against fundementalists such as Bakri.

Moderate Muslims have urged the government NOT to let him back in and said "No tears would be shed by British Muslims if Bakri was barred"

Is he listening to the British Muslims and the British people as a whole-------or to his wife that will probably defend him in court??

yerself · 10-08-2005, 17:20

from www.pipex.com:

Extremist preacher 'in line for NHS heart op'
The extremist Islamic preacher Omar Bakri Mohammed may undergo heart surgery in an NHS hospital if he returns to the UK.

Bakri, who says he has a congenital heart problem, has already missed several appointments or had them postponed, friends said, but another one is likely to be scheduled before the end of the year.

The so-called "Tottenham Ayatollah" is currently in Lebanon but says he plans to return to the UK in a month's time.

That would allow him to have a free operation which would otherwise cost thousands of pounds privately.

Bakri's health problem is understood to involve the narrowing of arteries in his heart and the likeliest operation is an angioplasty.

More than 20,000 of the operations are carried out by doctors in the UK every year.

His condition is believed to be exacerbated by his weight.

Friends say that, because he is missing a bone in his ankle, he is unable to exercise and that has contributed to the narrowing of his coronary arteries.

Earlier this year the father-of-seven, who uses a walking stick, took delivery of a £30,000 people carrier paid for under the Motability scheme.

He is estimated to have received several hundred thousand pounds in benefits during his two decades in the UK.

It is not clear which hospital Bakri would have his treatment at and hospitals refused to discuss confidential patient details.

But Anjem Choudary, another leading figure in the al-Muhajiroun movement, said: "He had an appointment for a heart operation at some point. I'm not sure exactly when.

"He had appointments before but he missed them - he doesn't like to take medicine, he likes to recover naturally.

"He has a congenital problem he has had the whole of his life. It's a problem with his arteries but I'm not a doctor so I don't know exactly."

Bakri, who had his mobile phone turned off on Wednesday, sparked outrage last week by saying he would not inform police if he knew Muslim extremists were planning a bomb attack in Britain.

He left for Beirut amid suggestions that he could be tried for treason but the Government has since made clear there is no prospect of that.

Deputy Prime Minister John Prescott admitted there was nothing to stop the firebrand cleric coming and going at the moment from the UK.

But a review of the Home Secretary's powers to exclude people who promote terrorism could be complete by the time Bakri heads home, allowing him to be barred.

Tory leader Michael Howard argued that present powers were already sufficient to keep Bakri out and he called on the Government to use those powers "without delay".

"The Home Secretary has the power to exclude from this country people whose presence here is not conducive to the public good," he said.

Former Home Secretary David Blunkett today said he was sure "very many people" would welcome Bakri's departure from the UK.

Speaking during a visit to Nottingham East Midlands Airport, he said: "I wouldn't second guess the Home Secretary's or the Prime Minister's decisions (on excluding the Muslim cleric from the country).

"I think there will be very many people who would welcome his departure and I know a decision will be taken when the Home Secretary has had the chance to talk to the Prime Minister and receive advice from legal advisers and his own staff.

"There's time for that decision to be taken over the weeks ahead." Published: Wednesday 10th August 2005

cashman · 10-08-2005, 19:27

goin off that info yerself the time for that descision should be taken immediatley not in a few weeks time,are or the government completly spineless?

fireman · 10-08-2005, 19:59

Nails and heads spring to mind Cashy.

Margaret Pilkington · 10-08-2005, 20:33

He definitely has a bone in his back that won't bend.......he has NEVER worked in this country or contributed in any way.......unless of course you count his ability to procreate......so he obviously has.......no I'd better not go there.......I'll end up BANNED.

garinda · 10-08-2005, 21:10

It said on the evening news on ITV, that for him to be legally barred from returning into the UK, he has to be served with papers stating this fact, and then he has a fourteen day period to appeal the decission.

Only trouble is no one is sure if he is in The Lebanon, Libya, or Saudia Arabia.

Absolutlely daft.

Margaret Pilkington · 11-08-2005, 13:44

According to the lunchtime News, this guy has been arrested in Lebanon........????? what for.
Hope the lebanese police treat him with kindness and courtesy....don't you....?

SPUGGIE J · 11-08-2005, 15:19

Maybe he was arrested for his own safety he could be too radical for them. With the situation in Lebanon as it is (tetchy at best) they might not want an "universal trouble maker" in there midst. Mind you they could solve our problem and keep him in jail so we dont have to pay for him, then with some devine intervention this gonad might realisehow well of he is. Bet he yelled for a British consular official if he was arresed though odds of 8/13.

Tealeaf · 11-08-2005, 15:48

Well, if he did ask for British Consular assistance, I hope he was told to p*ss right off. My understanding is that this guy has joint Syrian/Lebanese nationality and his residency in the UK is based upon extended leave to remain as an asylum seeker. If the Lebanese have him locked up for a few more weeks then he legally loses that right. As a non-UK citizen he has no entitlement to Consular help.

SPUGGIE J · 11-08-2005, 15:52

Now there would be a lovely early crimbo present for all. Lets hope it happens.

SPUGGIE J · 11-08-2005, 17:55

The govenment needs a peice of paper from counrties saying they will treat returning reprobates nicely. What twaddle just to keep the HR groups happy Let em feel frightened like their targets and realise how good they had it.

Wynonie Harris · 12-08-2005, 07:45

So, it now turns out that the deportees will be able to go through a lengthy appeals process - all paid for by us, of course - and remain here for years, perhaps forever. A major part of the blame for this must rest with our bungling, incompetent government who incorporated international human rights principles into UK law in 1998.

The French come in for a lot of stick on this site, but they wouldn't put up with this situation for a minute. In fact, they've already started deporting radicals back to Algeria.

Why can't ours do the same?

staggeringman · 12-08-2005, 16:49

http://www.ntlworld.com/news/story_u...toryid=4200598 he is now banned from british soil! a lot of people can sleep soundly tonight.

Margaret Pilkington · 12-08-2005, 19:25

He has 3 months to appeal. His benefits have been stopped, but his wife and family are still getting benefits.