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I've just popped out to post some letters and saw a young mum tucking her kids safely into the car. She put the older one (about 3yr old) in the back seat and made sure the seat belt was fastened. Then she put the younger one (a baby in a car seat) nicely secured. I was thinking 'how sweet' until she turned around and I realised that all the time she'd had a fag in her mouth.

I implore you, if you do this, please stop. I couldn't care less about adults, if you want to smoke then fine, it's your choice and I have no problems with smokey pubs or anywhere else because if I choose to go in them that's my choice. But, please please don't kill your children like this.

Children have tiny little lungs, if they're stuck in a car with a smoker they are inhaling as much, if not more than the smoker is.

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As a smoker I find that appalling.

She might as well as offered the child one as well.

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I know! I'm sure a lot of smokers are very concientious - my hubby used to smoke but he never smoked in the house and he always (even outdoors) walked away from the kids to smoke - but some are extremely selfish.

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Totally agree Gary and Gayle, in my profile its down as one of my pet hates! I think its totally disgraceful, it should be classed a physical abuse. Whenever someone smokes near my children I either remove my children or ask them politely not to, it depends on the situation.

For example: How would someone feel that they may have contributed or caused death of a baby because they smoked around them........mmm doesn't sound so good when you say it like that but it's one of the risk factors stated by SIDS (Sudden Infant Deaths Syndrome).

Another way to look at it is: I can almost bet that if a car manufacturer stated that if drivers smoked in their 10-20 grand cars it would seize up the engine and ruin the car for good. The majority of them would not smoke in their cars. So why oh why...........you know the rest.....................


Sorry rant over!!! Great thread.

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Oh pick on the smokers again!!! personally i think alcholic abuse is a worse form of neglect n largely ignored but its more socially acceptable for big drinkers than smokers these days, n tbh SS's do f-all about that nevermind investigating smokers but if they did then less resource is avail where its needed like in real cases of child abuse that end in death by lack of intervention.

So can we get things in perspective

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as a smoker I am very aware of smoking around my children and do not smoke in the car when they are in (oops tell a lie, once did when stuck in traffic jam but had head practically out the window).

Theres another angle to this its not worth the hassle I get off my kids to stop smoking when they do see me! Selfish perspective I think ;)

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I agree with you Gayle, I too hate to see anybody smoking infront of their young children, especially in a car, I dont smoke and would never let anybody smoke near my daughter, I dont take her into pubs or any other smoky environments. I dont think this is having a go at the smokers because a lot of smokers I know feel the same way. I was driving behind a women last week she had one hand on the wheel, the other held up with a fag in it and there were 2 child seats in the back, it knocked me sick, this should also be considered as dangerous driving.

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As its a topical discussion im gonna be on unpopular view because as ive said i think there are far more dangerous n worse things than smoking....smoking in a car = dangerous driving how rediculous drinking is worse that does n is proven to kill on rds.

For a smoker its not just about addiction its about what the cig does for some ppl ie keeps em calm, can aid concentration etc. Take the car incident n that person was banned from smoking that person is gonna crave more as with owt u always want what u cant have more, the worse could happen in that senario is that the person gets v annoyed n stressed easily n could put others at more danger dependant on type of person or another way they take their frustration out on the kids for not smoking n kids are v stressful at best of times. OK i can respect public places n ppl for non smoking but i think smokin in own homes n cars are that persons choice n responsiblility n quite a cheek when the tax rate on fags is serious inflation n being told what to do.

My mate had an ashma attack a bit back n ran out of her puffers the ambulance crew told her to actually have a fag as shes a smoker [believe it or not] because the fag would calm her down n slow down her breathing enough to re regulate it - thus fore needed no xtra intervention.

What im sayin may sound selfish but its my perspective if it weren't fags it'll be something else.

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sorry for my so called ignorance but im not breaking the law

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I don't drive an awful long way anymore, but was never able to smoke and drive at the same time anyway, if I wanted a cigarette I'd have to stop and stretch my legs and a smoke.

I drove past a woman this morning on Stonebridge Lane who nearly swerved into me. She had one hand on the wheel and in the other a mobile phone and a fag. She got the Rindy finger.

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:D I misread that then and for a minute I had a vision of a woman with three hands!

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Yes Willow!!! but such in life ive had much more dangerous things happen than that n yes my kids are healthy thanx. The most dangerous to life threatening are some ppl tbh, in fact marriage nrly snuffed me!!!

But where do u draw the line everything has capacity to be dangerous, talking of cot death even the position of the baby in its is apparent n then changed it n its not just confined to house of smokers, i lost a baby b4 my 2 i have now n i gave up smoking completely.

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Some things are just in the hands of GOD regardless

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Accystanmac? are you on drugs as well as smoking near kids???? where on earth in this post does Gayle "pick on smokers" she mearly points out her oppinion about smoking near CHILDREN!!! How many kids do you know that have fallen ill through passive drinking (after being born i must add)?????? nobody mentioned any other dangers to kids or other humans from any other acts whatsoever!!!! Smoking is one adults choice and should not be thrust upon other people, i hate it, but i go in pubs where people smoke by choice. Poor kids in cars don't have a say, therefore should not be put through it!!! I spent many a summer holiday travelling in the car with my parents with my top over my head because of the horible fumes and i absolutely refuse to let anyone smoke in my car when my daugters in for that very reason. I know that when she is at home with her mum she's subject to it, but there's no chance she's going to suffer in my care!!! its called respecting others i think!

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Wingy i resent that comment thankyou im not on any drugs of any kind prescription or non oh but smoking yeh i do n so do a lot of ppl....& IM MEARELY POINTIN OUT MY OPINION too there are 2 sides to every coin y'know. I dont tell u how to bring yr kids up so dont tell me how to bring mine up n i dont drive i use public transport which is non smoking so yeh i respect that.

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when did i tell you how to bring up you children???
just have another read!!!!

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It how u put yr mail across wingy its giving that impression

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Utter rubish!! how on earth am i supposed to know from your post that you even have children???? i never mentioned what you do with yours or others!! You where quick to be on Gayles case without her "picking on smokers" so if your going to do it expect others to do it also!!
IMO

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Look if im out n go to someones house i respect the householder n their house/family if its non smoking or no smoking area then i respect it i wouldn't dare to light up i will wait or go somewhere acceptable to do it. So i do have respect!

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Erm i think u should read yrs too u were so quick to judge me that going to the point of asking if i was on drugs????? But isn't everyone entitled to a point of view Wingy as u are, im mearely staing that in Gayles posts it infers that smoking kills kids so who is that aimed at wingy?....erm smokers aint it n as with any debate is it right that both should be put across

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I didn't mean to 'infer' that smoking near kids kills them, I meant to say it point blank - SMOKING NEAR KIDS KILLS

This quote below is from the NHS.

Over half (54%) of the babies and young children from poorer backgrounds are exposed to environmental tobacco smoke (ETS), compared to 18% of those from professional backgrounds. This exposure, known as passive smoking, causes serious respiratory illness and asthma attacks, sudden infant death syndrome (SIDS, or cot death) and middle ear disease, including "glue ear", in children.

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Plus, I'm not getting at smokers per se - if you want to smoke that's fine by me - just don't do it in a confined space where kids are, do they want to smoke?

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Same could be said for children playing nr busy rds!!!! Actually is the biggest killer of children n young teens!!!!

Im not arguing that smoking aint harmful to health im arguing u use the word KILL n im sayin there are other just as dangerous things that kill n can harm health too but as im the plague of death im expected to be shot down in this thread no matter what.

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I'm not arguing with you about other causes of death, I think you're missing the point. Yes there might be bigger killers but that still doesn't make it right.

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SO what exactly are u saying Gayle, what point are u hoping to gain??? Cos u is singling smokers out for being child killers for smoking nr them n yet nothing about those who drink n drive or drive illegally who can kill instantly or have the potential to. There are smoke free areas in place well the one in the arndales a joke with that cafe but even still repect the area so what is the problem??

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All right, so if I started a thread that said drink drivers kill people you'd be happy would you? If you'd read things correctly you'd know that I'm not saying that smokers are responsible for every single child death in the country, of course they're not, but they are responsible for some and that could be stopped.

So the point is that smoking in a confined space, near children, can seriously damage the health of those children. So, yes I am getting at smokers - stop being so selfish.

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Well 2 wrongs dont make a right Gayle n i think u have a baised opinion yrself, drink drivers dont make me happy but if u are gonna make singling out suggestions then other area's of dangerous incidents cannot be overlooked either. This thread is biased against smokers because we are socially soft targets n its ok to blame smokers but u is all quite happy to benefit the tax from it, if smoking was sooo bad then the country wouldn't allow tobacco products to be sold, the gov makes a huge fat wad from it n thats why they wont do anything serious about it other than provide non smoking areas, health warnings n limited advertising of the products - oh n stop contraband getting thro.

Im not selfish why im i???? i respect non smokers n area's n its tunnel vision to get at smokers only when other factual suggestions are overlooked to gain yr point in fact ignorant! I have responsiblity but not for everyone. Cheap shot at a debatable thread.

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i,m a heavy smoker! don,t smoke in the house, dont smoke in enclosed spaces eg cars with kids, agree they should be kept away from kids in such instances,but agree entirely with asm in regards to smokers are a soft/easy target.

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OMG dog with a bone springs to mind LOL get a grip!!!

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i am a 21 year old girl who has never in her life touched a cigarette. my 15 year old sister hasnt neither, we dont need to. you see we live in a pub. i class us as passive smokers. if i had the chance i would take her out of the pub life and live in a normal house where smoking is banned. we dont have a choice but to live in an ashtray. it isnt my parents fault, it just annoys me when people say i cant give up smoking or you wouldnt understand what its like! err hello what about the people who dont smoke dont the people who smoke understand what we might want sometimes????

i hate smoking but yet smokers think there hard done to by people who dont smoke.
well my lungs are hard done to by your smoke!!!!! :eek:

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So Gayle if u was the PM what would u do shove all smokers with children in prison???? this country is bad enough with real criminals n the current figures over prisons over subscribed by inmates as it is with violent crime on the increase, how will this be policed??? dont forget our lovely social services dept n the need for foster carers n increased need for care homes, there are other serious issues that need attention with regards to children n other social issues that cause harm n yet the smoking issue is more prevailment. Where would this funding come from to punish, cos it has to come from somewhere. Like i said get things into real life perspective plz. Safe places for children to play, better parks, protection of those whom are in real danger to life as the percentage to smoking than to other issues of child safety is small, n children are v bright n knowlegable about the subject these days to be objectionable.

LIKE I SAID WHERE DOES THE LINE GET DRAWN

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Thanx Cash u understand me

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simple just dont smoke around children go into a different room open a window smoke to your hearts content. just dont let the children smoke it with you thats just plain cruel. they dont have a choice in the matter do they?? they look up to their parents. dont think you would like it if (if you have childen) to see them walking down the street with a cigarette in their trap would you?? or would you be total oposite and be very proud that youve learned them to smoke??

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Erm kids can pick up smoking habit from senior schools n friends houses, out in pubs aka social smokers its anywhere not necessarily on their own homes....so like i said where does the line on this get drawn

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not when there young and vulnerable, when there at the age when they learn more???????

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you could just draw the line at you know you shouldnt smoke near children so why go on about it ??

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I don't see that there is much difference between smoking near a child and what you would call physical abuse. The scars on the outside heal, but damage to their lungs is permanent, but only physical abuse gets Social Services intervention.

You have an odd point of view, accystanmac

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No cos i have a different point of view n because i dont agree with all points

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You appear to condone smoking near children.

Just keep away from mine when you light up

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I smoke but i dont have any kids but i do have nieces and nephews the youngest niece only being 3 months old. Her and her brother who is 2 1/2 came to my house today to visit my mum - i didnt smoke in the 3hrs that they were here because even tho their mum used to smoke until she was preggers with the first one she doesnt like it. When they were all babies and toddlers i never smoked in front of them until they went to school at the age of 5 I always went out in the garden or in a different room and if i was babysitting i always went and stood at the back door. And if i am with a group of non smokers i dont smoke round them because it isnt fair to them i go and wander off and have a fag r i just dont have a ciggie then when i get home im like a chimney! lol Even at home sometimes if mums not well i go and smoke outside or wait until shes gone to bed.

There are some smokers who do respect non-smokers you know.

By the way when i was driving i did smoke and drive but never when i had the kids in the back.

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:) Most probably do and it is very much appreciated, especially by people who have breathing problems which can be severely affected by passive smoking.

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No i dont its what u is reading into it cos i smoke n was objectioning to thread that was biased against smokers n that other areas was to be considered in relation to children n suddenly im made responsible as i said i respect non smokers /areas n kids but sayin its not going to be easy thing to police with society as a whole.

The original thread is directed that smokers KILL kids is a strong statement in context of childrens deaths whereas rd accidents are the main killers, n if u read my posts properly im not sayin it doesnt cause them harm, i just think the original thread was a strong biased opinion to say kill n make it directed at smokers whereas other issues are not even considered in thread. But yet i get attacked n judged for my opinion on this subject which ppl have twisted to suit.

I have non smoking friends n i dont polute their environment as ive said so many times in this thread, tho it seems there is more annomosity over smokers even tho they dont smoke in front of kids as im getting at the mo.

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Excuse me but, Smoking in this country isn't illegal! However if you don't want your children to be affected then it is YOUR responsibility to keep them safe, NOT mine.

(I actually try not to smoke too close to children, but I don't need a smart arse to tell me that!).

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Exactly Less!!

[QUOTE=Less]Excuse me but, Smoking in this country isn't illegal! However if you don't want your children to be affected then it is YOUR responsibility to keep them safe, NOT mine.

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The thread was not biased against smokers - it was biased against smokers who smoke in a closed environment with kids present.

Smokers are not an 'easy' target at all. Seeing as you asked - if I was PM I wouldn't ban smoking all together but I would make it an offence to smoke in a car with children present. It is simply cruel and you've said yourself that you respect other people whilst smoking. So why are you defending the woman that I saw earlier on today who is putting the lives of her two young children at risk. Surely, you'd have been the first to object if she hadn't strapped them into the car or if she'd been on the phone whilst driving - so why are you defending her smoking in such close proximity to them. And before you go of on one again, she wasn't even moving the car at the time that I saw her so I'm not talking about the risk of driving whilst smoking.

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And so the argument goes round and round and round. It seems that smokers are more the object of criticism than terrorists these days. It seems any excuse will do to have a go at us, from "you are killing yourselves", "you are killing those around you" even to accusations of child abuse!

Are we not getting all this a little out of proportion? ASH, who campaign against smoking claim that smoking costs the NHS £750,000,000 per year. Presumably they calculate the cost on the number of smoking related deaths, which, it must be said, is a bit suspect, since we all have to die of something and would be a net cost the NHS whatever we died of. Secondly through direct taxation, the smoking fraternity coughs up net reciepts to HM Treasury of £20,000,000,000. and every year that sum increases at a rate above inflation.

Just think of the numbers of operations that twenty billion quid pays for; to the benefit of smokers and non-smokers alike! Treating people who have so little self-control that they cannot control their eating costs the NHS far more than treating smokers and this is a figure which seems set to rise and rise!

You don't like the smell of tobacco smoke, Ok. There are lots of smells I'm not too keen on, women drenched in perfume being among the chief of them, but do you hear me calling for the banning of perfume on the grounds of general nuisance and danger to health; excessive levels of the chemicals used in perfumes also exacerbate respiratory complaints?

You prefer not to have your clothes tainted with the smell of tobacco smoke during a night out. Fine, go someplace where smoking is not allowed.

You prefer not to have to breathe someone elses smoke. Will you also start complaining about having to breathe vehicle exhaust fumes or the fumes from factories? Will you now give up your cars and public transport in case you are inadvertantly the cause of respiratory illness in others?

There are two health messages on my current packet of cigarettes, one of which reads, "Smoking when pregnant harms your baby" This is undeniably true but, so do many other things, many of which are equally avoidable!

It comes down in the end to a matter of choice and an assumption. I choose to smoke. It is my body and I am free to use and abuse it in any way I see fit and I reject completely and utterly any attempt to dictate to me what I may or may not do with it. The assumption is based on the fact that the people around me are aware that I smoke and yet still choose to associate with me, in spite of my habit. Thus I can only assume that they do not mind overmuch.

Yes, like Gayle, I would wish that some Parents would refrain from smoking in front of their children. Just as I would wish that some parents would refrain from abusing and neglecting their children and filling their impressionable minds with all manner of irrational fears and hatreds. But the world in which we live is an imperfect place at best and I think there are things in it that are much more deserving of getting hot-under-the-collar about than smoking.

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Is that why the government wont put a total ban on smoking A-B

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I dont smoke.. no one in this house does.. less is correct.. If I dont want my children to breath in smoke then i dont take them to smokey places... I also dont let them play on the M65 for simmilarly obvious reasons:)

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baby boo, with your mum and dad smoking did this have any effect on you not wanting to smoke?

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I would settle for criminalminimum sentence 10 years for attempted murder to me that what it amounts to.:( It takes me a lot of steam to get the mother in law to walk to the house door to smoke when my daughter is about. Mind you locking up the mother in law does have its good points, I wouldnt have to fork out for a dragaon slayer. :p

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[QUOTE=accystanmac]Exactly Less!!

no it isnt illegal i agree but is it my responsibility that i live in a public house???? where i am constantly forced to breathe in other peoples smoke??? is it my sisters responsibility to have to live where she lives????? where she to is forced to breathe in other peoples smoke??? im not blaming my parents but come on at least feel sorry for the people who have to put up with this kinda or junk going into their bodies when they didnt ask for it anyway????

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no coz i hear you every morning trying to stay alive why should i put up with that???

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and you always told me that smoking was bad for your health i think i must have been the last kid on the planet to do what there parents told them because no kids do nowadays if anything they do the total opposite.:)

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please could you repeat what you said!plus you never answered my question?

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so what you arer saying is that you dont mind me smoking? you havent answered the original question?

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Yes it is u can choose where u live u is at that age now, u arnt blaming yr parents who put u in that environment but u blame us n we are a big part of the pub business to which they chose to work in :rolleyes: n nrly all other working environments are non smoking!!!

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have i put you in any way and officially blamed you??????????? no the reason why i havent got my own house is for the simple fact that there expensive and i cant afford one. am i not allowed my opinion in saying i dont like smoking and i just dont find it fair that smoking should not be done in front of kids?
:idunno:

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Erm yeh u are but u went off the post a lil n i meant us [all smokers] not just me jeeeeezzz no way am i taking sole responsibility like less said u are responsible for yrself n yr own :rolleyes:

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Please, if you are going to quote me, or use me in anyway do it in English not text! We have no need to use anything other than the normal language on here we have plenty of room and the keyboard is so much bigger!

(what you are trying to say could make sense if as the majority of us, you use plain language).

(Oh dear have I opened a different can of worms? Again!)

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Thank you willow, though I can forgive the grammar, after all English is a difficult subject but being lazy with the words what you can be using isn't something what I like!

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my grammer is bad along with my spelling and have in te past used text speak to hide a few flaws result unhappy people so I now grin and bare it. Yet some people including children have it down to a fine art. We teach them bad habits then we pick up theirs.

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Using mobile phone text is NOT allowed on this site anyway,
you have a full size keyboard there please use it.
this is a web site not a mobile phone anymore mobile shorthand will be deleted

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I have no problem with grammar or spelling that people use we all learn, I try all the time to improve and fail, I just don't think with such a wonderful thing as the English language that I have to dechipher gibberish.

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i am slightly illiterate. it dont matter how many times i am told if i or e comes first. or which there or thier to use...or when and where to use a comma...i still cant do it.. i also cant write much... well i cant write... never learnt join up writing and my print is unreadable.

so long as people can figure out what I am typing... thats all that matters...

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You're right, that's all that matters. Everyone makes allowances for the odd wonky spelling or grammar error, we completely accept that - it's the text speak that's hard to understand.

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Children could be weaned onto nicotine by the parent's use of a pipe which is apparently less harmful.;)

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Phew! I'm so glad someone else brought it up, I didn't want to sound like an old fuddy duddy.

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It's your thread did you mean grammar or:-

It's only a question, I still think you have very strange priorities! (and try to force them on others), but then, I'm known for talking c*ap you are an amateur!

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mum quit as she didnt like the name some people called her she had the will power to stop.
you told me when i was young if i ever catch you with a fag in your mouth i will make you eat it! i was scared you would do not every parents threaten their children like that the kids nowadays would probably get thier parents done for something like that. anyway it doesnt appeal to me as i see people every day struggling to breathe because of a little white stick.

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seconded on that subject less! :D

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oh yeah houses are way too expensive and renting is just dead money and what choice did i have at 16 years old to go and live on my own then??

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My old man ended up with a triple heart by pass because of it and the sight of someone who goes through that should put any kid of smoking.

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erm..i guess this thread is about anti-smoking kinda. im all for banning smoking in public places...i know ill get flack for this but...i dont make you all have to put up with my bad habits..why should i have to endure everyone elses??

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I will go back for more schooling in English.:D

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It is very hard when your typing not to use text speak when you do a lot of texting.
The couple of stray words here and there is all well and good but people should be aware of those people out there that cant read text speak.
Of late we seem to be getting more and more posts that are pure text speak.
All that is asked is that a post is as readable has possible to all our members.
Remember you are typeing not txting. ( oopse )
Please dont deleat post just for one slip up.

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Oh and what bad habits would those be gem??/ ;)

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agreed with what gayle said about kiddies lungs etc, but to me the title of the thread made it a dig at smokers, sorry but thats my opinion.

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Well i smoke 20 a day.Untill about 23hrs30mins ago.I could kill for a fag now but i'm not going to.Sod the puffers and patches,cold turkey is on the menu.Smoking is evil and should be banned everywhere but of course it raises lotsa cash for our government which must outweigh the cost of treating victims of this addiction.I still want a fag though.lol

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well done and keep it up pilky :D

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agreed i managed 14 months once hope you do better pilky.

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Thanx for your support.I actually gave up for 3 and a half years on the day of Princess Diana's funeral.I went to a petrol station and bought 20 marlboro which i'd smoked for 9 years>got in the car and thought "i'm giving up"threw them in the glove compartment and did it for over 3 years.I dont believe in all these patches and things.Willpower is what iot takes but it's like having a little demon constantly knocking at your door.You can never escape it,just learn to tell it to F*** Off.

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I do hope your kids were NOT in the glove compartment :mad: .......................

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Were they still there after 3 years :)

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and if the title said "non smokers should not have an opinion if an adult smokes near a child" would that be a dig at non smokers??:confused:

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To smoke or not to smoke..............hows this one for a silly example.
Local golf club with 2 rooms, a members only room, and a main function room (which can be hired by non-members)
A member of the council states that he will not bring his wife and child up to the club to sit in a smoke filled room.
So the council make the members only room non-smoking - result members walk out and go to local pub, hence loss of bar revenue.
Oh the council said, well we will have a referendum and ask the members which room they want as a non-smoking room, you guessed it the members voted to make the main function room non-smoking.
Oh dear say the council what about the socials and private functions that use the room, they will not book it if it's a non-smoking room - result - loss of bar revenue. So the council dicide to put the referendum to one side for socials and private functions !
The silly part about all this is that this particular council member, never brings his wife or child to the club.
All those problems, could have been overcome by allowing smoking in the members only room, and a specific area (adjacent to windows) in the main function room. Away from the bar and small dining area. They call it good old common sense
Sorry about being long winded. :D

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Smoking is like anything else in this life, you can either take it or leave it, your choice.

The next ciggy might kill us, but hey, so might the next bus that comes along, or the next plane that falls from the sky, or or..........get the drift he he he:D .

Living life does us damage all the time................how many things have there been recently in the press 'oh don't eat this, don't eat that, don't drink this, don't drink that, even medication is bad for us now :eek: .

So to put it bluntly we are all up S'''s creek without a paddle. From the day we are born, life is getting shorter.:rolleyes:

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what i,m on about boo is the word PUNISHABLE in the title,to me burgalars/ thugs etc you punish, ignorant thoughtless gits that smoke infront of kids should be EDUCATED. most smokers dont have a problem keeping smoke away from kids,and find it just as offensive as non smokers.like i said before just seemed to me like a soft target.

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