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I don't think there is a fuel shortage Willow. I think people are filling up due to the threat of fuel blockades on wednesday thursday & friday this comming week. We will definately be filling up today as we are planning to travel quite a lot of miles at the weekend & don't want to risk there not being any fuel to do this!

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As usual, media hyping up thee situation. HAving said that I am happy for them to protest as it makes my journey to work very pleasant. They don't bother with LPG so I can carry on as normal.

Actualy, thinking about it. If I was to fill up all my cars, bikes etc I could stockpile 55 gallons or over £200 worth of fuel. And that is without the 4 or 5 petrol cans I have knocking round the garage, or the lawnmower,

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i dont see the point of another fuel protest becaus ethe last ine acheived absoltely nothing all the govenment did was freeze the price for a while then made more increases than before the protest

i am going to be buying a car soon and have already come to the conlusion that the government has me by the nuts and the only thing i can do is either pay for the petrol or dont drive a car

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I did fill up earlier than I probably would have done due to what was being said in the press. So yes it prob was the same for many other people.

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My wife waited 25 minutes to put some petrol in the car.

We have another one that needs some fuel as well - looks like I'll be using the little one for the job this week then...

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I often have to wait 25milliseconds to get to the LPG pump :)

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you should try going when its not so busy :)

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Makes me thankgod in a way i dont drive but then bus/taxi prices go up to account for it so im got by the short & curlies too.

I take it the margrams gonna be busy again & the queues along Hyndburn road like last time wasting more fuel to fill up.

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Jeepers they are all talking about it now - its certainly a mass debate all over the country at the moment!!

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We filled up at Tesco on Saturday, but that was only because we had just driven all the way back from Devon and we needed some juice.

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I also saw the news this morning about threatened fuel blockades. I filled up on my way back from Asda, and the garage was quiet. I haven't put anything in the car for a fortnight and it was running on fumes, so I reckoned I would have filled up today anyway..:D

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I went to the filling station just off the M6 junction near where I live and where I always go. I wasn't panic buying, my fuel gauge was on empty. Usually at 3 p.m. there are 2 or 3 cars there but today there was a queue of cars waiting to get in. I only waited about 5 minutes but there are 15 pumps there.

I asked the woman on the till if it had been the same all day. She said it had been the same since Friday and some people were only able to fit a few litres in their tanks but were still determined to fill up. Crazy or what?

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It seems everyone in the uk are having problems with petrol today & poss for next few days, my friend couldn't get into the asda due to queues for pumps, it seems a lot of people are having a major panic on specially fueled by the news...eeekk i stuck a pun in there boom boom lol

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There is panic buying and yes it is a pain for those who need their cars on a daily basis wether for work or to run their day. As for fuel blockades I stay in Grangemouth which has a refinery and if this goes ahead it will be a target. One of the people that benifited last time were the guys that ran the mobile butty shops. They did a roaring trade in bacan and sausage butties and as the protest was peaceful there was no trouble, as it is hoped that should be another one it is.

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Rising Bridge was packed at tea time, they were queuing back onto teh road.

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I hope they do have protests over there, and I hope it does some good. Over here it costs me less than 20p a litre, for PETROL! Without a doubt in the UK you are ripped off big style!

I have to say though, I'm looking forward to next year when I buy myself a nice big enviromentally friendly V8 that costs me less to run than an accringtonian with a 1litre ford fiesta :) And most people see russia as being a backward country???

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I knew nothing about it till my Dad phoned me this morning to check if I've filled my car, so went and filled up straight away, no queues, I remember only too well last time queuing for over an hour for a fivers worth!

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Quick, get the petrol smuggling rolling!

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Interesting question: has all this 'fuel crisis' business made anybody else think about our reliance on fossil fuel?

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hehe, all we need is a new government and some heavy investment in a pipeine from russia........ The russians have more oil than they know what to do with, but yet opec and co wont let them sell it to the west.. whats that all about.......

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My Dad, who works in the oil industry said that the only reason why there will be a fuel crisis will be because people make one by panic buying.

It's playing straight into the government's arms by panicking like this. Next step will be prices over £1 a litre and we'll all be grateful for it because at least we've managed to find some. Calm down!

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well what an absolute pain in the rear this has turned out to be!!! my brother asked me to fill the car up...for no other reason than the fact that the red light is nearly on!!! and every petrol station i went to had a massive queue outside it!!! well its not quite on red so ive risked it till the morning..... has the world gone mad???

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[QUOTE= I take it the margrams gonna be busy again & the queues along Hyndburn road like last time wasting more fuel to fill up.[/QUOTE]

You're right, just nipped out for some milk and it was bedlam down at the roundabout. Went straight round the roundabout and went to the paper shop on Whalley Road. We filled up yesterday morning, usually do at the weekend but tend to put £20 in but yesterday filled the tank up. That only came to just over £30 so it wasn't that much differance.

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I'm just glad i don't need to drive to work - that saves me enough at the current prices. But if I'm stuck in Cannock on sunday cos I can't buy enough petrol to get home this weekend, i will not be happy.

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lol...how about if i go there instead!!! i wouldnt mind being stuck there!!! it'd give me a good excuse to not turn up for work..nice week off!!!
:p

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Just read the following on the BBC Lancashire site, it gets me really annoyed how some people can be so pathatic to ring the police up to find out where to buy petrol. The phone lines almost crash, if they had have done genuine callers who actually need them for something serious could not have got through. Oh it makes my blood boil.

Police plea over panic at pumps

There were queues a mile long at one petrol station
Merseyside Police have appealed to the public to stop dialling 999 to find out where to buy petrol and diesel.
The plea came as a wave of panic buying swept the North West in the wake of rumours about a fuel shortage.

A Merseyside Police spokesman said the increased volume of 999 calls had almost caused its phone lines to crash.

Fuel price campaigners plan to start three days of protests on Wednesday. Petrol retailers have urged motorists not to panic buy

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who the heck would even think of calling the police? Man, the human species is a very special breed, ain't it. we happily cause our own panics just to make life harder on ourselves.

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Filled up at Tesco yesterday afternoon,it was quite busy,probably because it was 90.9p a litre same as Blackburn ASDA but they were only letting people put £5's worth in.

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Just wait till 2am gem, it will be quiet then :D

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i happened to b in bradford today and it was hell...

firstly droev for ages tryna find a station - found one in morrisons and the queues were huge - about 30 mins...

driving back every station had queues there and even now - comin back from blackburn - the station on blackburn rd which is usually empty of customers is pumpin at every pump

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http://www.peakoil.org/


here's a bit of doom and gloom.

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heh, Rising bridge was already queued onto the road at 6:30 this morning(I was a bit late setting off for work)

As for GB, he will ask them to up production because they artificially cap it to maintain the price. He's hoping that the price per barrel will drop to ease his need to drop teh tax.

The UK has the cheapest fuel in Europe. That is untill the Goverment put the tax on then its the second most expensive! As for alternative fuels, Biodiesel is making a very slow entrance. I really can't understand the goverment on this one. They could encourage the farmers to grow crops thus reducing the subsidies we pay them( And don't think that farmers earn that much now. I know a couple and they earn a pittence compared to the number of hours they put in). It would reduce our reliance of fossil fuels and keep the public happy as the gov could control production as opposed to OPEC etc.

Other forms of energy are just not there technologically yet. Solar is getting there but it is still massively inefficient(i.e. you couldn't run a whole house's electrical demands from panels the size of the roof). the only thing in its favour is the sunshine is realtively endless.

Wind power looks good until the NIMBYs start shouting.

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our's went over a $ last week and cause it's never been that high before, no one could post the price cause it wouldn't fit in the sign!!!!!

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went tesco yesterday afternoon-queues were neverending so thought sod it, will have to try again when mood takes me or i'll have to walk loll

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I went to pics in Bury last night EVERY petrol station we passed going and coming back was queued.

I know one petrol station that isn't queued ..... the one at the bottom of Willows Lane, not suprising really though, he's already hiked his prices to 105.9ltr for petrol and 107.9ltr for diesel ............ robbing git!!

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He wasn't bombed out last time with the petrol strike either Tinks, i think you would rather do without than go there lol

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LOL thats good for those travelling willows lane area its bedlam enough without queues for petty station.

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Not unless his is the only petrol station in Accrington left with fuel at the pumps and then just imagine how much more he will hike the price !!

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:rolleyes: mmm your right accystanmac and some people have long memories as to why!! :mad:

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Personally I would never go there on principle of him profiteering

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Yes I remember that. :mad: Never went there again after that. In stark contrast the little one that isn't there now opposite the police station (It's all car sales now) phoned to let us know when he'd had a delivery because we were regular customers and he hadn't any left when we went for some. :)

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Well just come back to an inbox full from my other groups about this issue & most of them now cant get any petrol as quite a few places have now been drained of supplies.

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lol I've just been informed him at the bottom of Willows Lane has put his prices back down .... clever chappy .... still be hard pressed for custom I think ;)

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He'll put the prices up when the margram & others run out!!

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100% agree he can shove his petrol were the sun don,t shine. :D

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OUT OF PETROL HUMOUR






A little girl asked her Mom, "Mom, may I take the dog for a walk around the block?"
Mom replies, "No, because she is in heat." "What's that mean?" asked the child.
"Go ask your father. I think he's in the garage."

The little girl goes to the garage and says,
"Dad, may I take Belle for a walk around the block?
I asked Mom, but she said the dog was in heat, and to come to you."

Dad said, "Bring Belle over here."

He took a rag, soaked it with petrol, and scrubbed the dog's backside with it to disguise the scent,
and said "OK, you can go now, but keep Belle on the leash and only go one time round the block."

The little girl left and returned a few minutes later with no dog on the leash. Surprised, Dad asked, "Where's Belle?"




(YOU'RE GONNA LOVE THIS!!!!!!!!! )






The little girl said, "She ran out of petrol about halfway down the block, so another dog is pushing her home."

LOL:D

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Very good accystanmac. lol

:rofl38: :rofl38: :rofl38:

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i finished work last night at 10pm and across the road theres a garage, he usually closes at 10pm but there was a very long stretch of cars going all the way down blackburn road! dont know what time the poor guy got home but i bet hes loving his wage!

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Yeh no doubt enjoying his overtime babyboo LOL.

The ones really benefiting from this are the petty stations it beggars beleif!!!

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I do remember the last time we had this crisis though, and he refused to let white people fill up at him pumps. me and ginge wont use the garage now after that. And apparently he was stopping whites from filling up yesterday there too.:(
It's not nice when this sort of thing happens.

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Yeh remember that & cant beleive he's allowed to do it, if a whitey firm did that there would be uproar:mad:

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:rolleyes: I said people had long memories! I can't believe he's at it again! I hope someone reports him and they throw the book at him :mad:

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A load of us AccyWebers should all go at once and if he turns us away we can call the police. Anyone up for it?

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Motorists should show a little consideration for non drivers, who now have to wait in line to purchase lifes little essentials such as milk, cigarettes or condoms, while all those panicky motorists wait to pay for their fuel with plastic cards.

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Is that for a litre or a gallon?

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And do you really expect me to carry £50 cash in my wallet? I tell you what, I'll stick a 'mug me' sign on my forehead as well, shall I?

Plastic may take a little longer, but it's more convenient and a much more secure way of paying for fuel than the paper stuff.

And last time I looked, cigarettes weren't one of 'life's little essentials'. I left out condoms because without them people would end up with a few more 'little essentials'...

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It's what passes up here for humour.:)

I drive, and sometimes pay for my fuel on a card. However I do know four people that have had their cards illegally scanned and copied at a petrol station. I don't know anyone personally, whose been mugged on the forecourt when attempting to pay by cash.

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I spend some time in the less savoury parts of London, and I really wouldn't want to have £50 on me if someone decided that they wanted some cash.

They can have my cards, because I can cancel those - I'd just give them the wrong PIN so they couldn't get any money through the ATMs.

Anyway, I get Clubcard points when I use my credit card!

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Your probably right mate. Anyone got a match?;)

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Bypass the petrol stations and get it direct instead

http://www.petroldirect.com/index.htm

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To change the subject just a little, we were having a little discussion on the way back home from Blackpool today - lots of closed petrol stations there! We were talking about the tax burden placed on motorists.

For a start the oil is taxed when it comes out of the pipeline, then it is taxed when it comes out of the refinery, then the government take another slice in petrol duty and another slice in VAT and yet another slice in corporation tax on the profits of petrol stations and even more in income tax from the people who work in petrol stations. Then they have a go a charging us to use the roads through the Road Fund Tax. Then they charge VAT on your vehicle and your insurance of it. And then tax you on everything you buy for it or have done to it. And before long they will also be taxing you to dispose of your used tyres and the scrapping of your knackered vehicle. In the meantime they tax you for going too fast and for leaving it in the wrong place for too long. Omit to pay any of the above taxes and they will tax you still further and also, possibly, take away your liberty.

If this what is meant by living in a free country, I would hate to have to live in one that is not free!

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I will Neil but i aint got a car:D pmsl

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Sadly there is some element of truth there:(

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I will give you a lift if you verbally abuse petrol station owner, I am a very quiet and shy person in real life :D

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Very funny site mate

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Oh if only you could do that. Brilliant site.

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Nice idea but how long before the govenment tries to close it? Some station owners would thinc they are being victimised though not going to mention any but.......... well we all know who dont we.

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Why should they close it? Its a Parody, a joke, if you read it they take it from teh sublime to teh ridiculous. All in good taste though.

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That lot in London might think its for real:D

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thats a liter sara

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What or the chances of the price becoming lower than 80p a litre in the next few weeks? If this carries on car manufactures will not be able to sell large engined cars because nobody could afford to run them. Then the govenment would have a BIG problem on their hands.

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Maybe not on petrol Spuggie, I do over 30K a year in a 200+BHP 2.5 Turbo car. It does the equivilant of over 60 mpg sat at motorway speeds. Oh and its not a diesel either.

Ian

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That is one smug penguin...

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Your about 30 year's too young for a Volvo V70 :D
(says me who quite likes the idea of one)

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You see Neil, you are falling in the usual trap, they are sooooo kewl we keep it a secret or you would all be buying them and they would become uncool again.



Doh! I've just given it away :)

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Just stick them in your tank and the aura will take over. :)

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I could think of somewere else they could increase the aura. Mind you if 60mpg is possible from 2.5 200 motor that is turbo charged then people would be buying them bigstyle.:D

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You are welcome to look at mine. ( Volvo v70 2.5 Turbo, mapped to take account of the higher octance of LPG(110 RON)). I was thinking of putting a RICA chip on there. That would take it to 265BHP and they claim it doesn't affect cruising MPG, only when you floor it :)

LPG, 35p/litre returning 23mpg on gas(sat at motorway speeds and I don't mean 70 :) ), Petrol at 95p/litre makes an equivilance of (95/35*23) 62.43MPG.

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Now that is what I call a set of figures. Its a pity that there are not more garages that do LPG as I only know of 5 in my area and 2 of them are a stones throw from the refinery.

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LPG was very big when I worked in Holland but wasn't there something about being rear ended, something about explosions and fire.

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I wonder how long the tax break will last on LPG. When it gets more popular you can see the price going up can't you. A bit like the price of diesel went up when everyone bought diesel cars.

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I agree with Neil as soon as LPG becomes a serious contender to other fuels the tax will rise. The govenment would do it as LPG would no longer be a minority fad but something that could fill the coffers. Oh the law of economics.

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Looks like you're all due to be paying a pound a litre shortly. That's twice what I pay in oz. There are other places who pay less than that. What I would like to know is what is the weekly old age pension for a couple and what is your weekly average wage. Because at first glance you sure are paying through the nose.

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You need to look at more than just that. After all the cost of fuel is due to taxation. You need to compare the whole economy before you can decide if we "are paying through the nose"

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We have to pay more tax in this country for dog wardens, to make sure the dingos don't pinch out babies.

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Duh. I never thought of that.:) (at first glance) was the phrase I used. Perhaps its too incomprehensible. Can anybody answer two simple questions please. What's the average weekly wage . What's your old age pension for a couple. I am aware of your economy. That's been been stuffed for centuries. Or do detect a bit Cricket Patriotism:D

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I had a conversation about prices of things with my father a few years back.

It seems that although prices have indeed increased (ie you can't go out to the cinema, have a huge meal and bus back and get change for a fiver - well, maybe in Accy, but not T Wells!!!), the actual cost has decreased.

The way we worked this out was how many hours did you have to work to earn enough money for a packet of fags, for example? When we compared, it worked out that he had to work longer than I did at similar ages to buy the same sorts of things.

Does that make sense?

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Makes sense to me but even then the amount in tax taken from car users along with road tax you would think the roads would be the amongst best in the world. :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:

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There was an issue in France about 10 years ago. LPG was becoming popular and rougue fitters appeared everywhere fitting some very unsafe kit. There was a fire where a car that was converted by such a dodgy dealer went up taking 3 firemen wit it. This was because it was not fitted with all teh safety equipment that is standard now.

Consider the following situations,

You have a car with (as most are now) a plastic petrol tank. It contains upwards of 10 gallons of highly flammable liqued. Should that PLASTIC tank split it would leave enough petrol lying around that anyone smoking within a massive area would have to be very careful not to take the whole lot up. If it drains into the sewage system there is an untold environmental problem waiting to happen.

Now consider LPG. The tanks are tested to over 100psi. They are so tough you can take a hamer and chisel to one and it will still take you an age to make a hole in it. The tank wil only fill to 80% of total capacity to allow room for expansion and the regulator has a safety release that wil vent the gas slowly in case of emergency(fire etc). Now consider that gas. Should a tank get holed it will disperse into the atmosphere so quickly that in tests after venting over 80litres of LPG they could light matches within 2 minutes.

I know what I would rather be carrying when hit from behind thanks......



The tax on LPG is fixed by an EU directive for another 4 years such that it cannot be increased by more than the increase on Petrol. So I'm safe for now. It will take it an age to become more than a minority. Even then we only use less than 25% of teh LPG extracted during teh extraction of oil. The rest we simply burn off at teh rig as we don't have anywhere to store it.

Ian

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Ok being rear ended with an LPG tank aint my idea of fun but to the point ofburning the rest off on the rig as we don't have anywhere to store it iam am not quite sure is true. The gas the rigs burn of along with refineries usually contains hydrogen sulphide in high concentrations and has to be burnt for safty reasons. If you can smell it ie rotten eggs its safeish but if you smell it then it burns the smell receptors in your nose then its a wooden crate for you. :(

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I'll try and dig out the paper on it. It was from one of the enviromental action groups.

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Me too, Diesel.
You can put a fag out in a tub of diesel and it wont burn. Maybe even better is a tank full of straight vegetable oil :D