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I asked why the nationality of the drivers was mentioned. From that we have 7 pages of you all attacking me and calling me a racist. My contribution from then is to defend myself.

One person even said they had to stop and remember colored people where human. another posts a racist joke and the rest go into other nationalities and how to insult them. in it all you twist it so I am being called a racist.

Willowthewisp and Libel. Well what can I say other than "The lady doth protests too much, methinks"

garinda I agree with your sentiments but you should take into consideration that some of the people arguing are not insulted at all. they are just joining in for the sake of it. madhatter and others can see that. This all started because I asked what I thought was a reasonable question. What followed is something quite.. well quite extraordinary.

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It was you that claimed that some of us were racist.

It was never stated that 1 person had to stop & think if somebody of a different colour was human.

I would protest too, if some of your mindless drivel had been aimed at myself.

You come on here every now & then. You call people racist, without any information about any of us, & without knowing us. Look back at the posts, read them again properly, & you'll hopefully understand why we are upset.

:mad:

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As said. selective quoting and twisting it so that I am the racist and you are squeaky clean.

I did not come here calling people racist. I asked a question and what followed was racism that I then accused you of. You are twisting the facts in an attempt to justify your rant.

One person certainly did say they had to stop and remember colored people are human and it is still in this thread to see so twist that all you want. all people have to do is go back and read it.

I can see we are getting nowhere. when it comes to the point that you are simply denying what has been written and then quoting out of context to justify yourself. well little point in continuing.

My final comment.
I asked a question. It would have been easier just to answer it.

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:mad:Right THAT is the absolute limit Poppy. Are you totally incapable of reading what I wrote? You bet your boots I'm protesting. I'm protesting because you persist in your LIES about what I said.:mad: The only person twisting anything is you Poppy and as far as I am concerned that has gone way beyond any possible apology being acceptable to me by now.

Shall we put the boot on the other foot Poppy? How would you feel if I took your original post in the originl thread and quoted it out of context, misrepresented what you'd said and followed it with:

"I can't believe I'm reading what you wrote! You actually think that all the bad driving in this counry is done by 'coloured' people. Disgusting!"

Would you object? You'd have every right to object because that isn't what you said was it? Well neither did I say that I have to remind myself that 'coloured' people are human!

You are so far stuck up your own interpretaton of the facts that you won't even look at what I wrote and see that what I said I had to think bout was not whether anyone is human but to remind myself what flippin race people are because I don't classify my friends into racial pidgeonholes. Can't you read?

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Ive posted it again for you poppy, just in case you can't be bothered to go back & read the original text.

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While I haen't commented on this string for quite some time, it is time to chime in now.

When I read the post in question (by willow0, I certainly did not come away with the interpretation that Poppy has chosen to express. In fact, I was rather perplexed as tho how Poppy came up with his rather singular interpretation. I wasn't sure if it was due to a careless misread of willow's post or a deliberate provocation. Based on the past few days of Poppy's posts, I now believe the latter to be the case.

I don't see willow's comment as "racist" and I do see ongoing attempts by Poppy to continue his accusations which, to my mind, completely negates his rather feeble attempt at an apology.

I've given no negative karma (never have on Accyweb, as I believe in positive comments for those who deserve), but I see no justification for rewarding Poppy. None at all.

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How can this be?

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I haven't given any bad karma either. Everyone is entitled to an opinion, but this takes the p*ss.

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Like I said I've no idea if Poppy is indeed 'rather nice in reality', but from Poppies profile it states quite clearly that Poppy is in fact of the male gender.

You, you sexist.:D

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Sorry AJ, see you've already pointed that out.

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i don't very often but in this instance i just have.

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So have I, signed sealed delivered.

Rereading the thread made up my mind...and having karma paranoid Madhatter pleading for karma to be given, didn't help his case.

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PMSL.

The intention was there but this silly arse gave karma instead of took it!!!!

I.O.U. Neagative karma, but in the meantime enjoy.

Think I should go and lie down now in a darkened room.:D

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I'm a giver, what can I say?:D

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:D Go and have a nice cup of tea.

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See that's the beauty of karma.

Although I fully intended to take it, I feel so much better having given it. (He lied.):o

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Sorry Rindy - couldn't resist this.:p

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Lol, tried to give you karma, but have used my quota up on Poppy.:D

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....P.S. Publishing my photograph in this thread may well lose me kudos, as some people still think I am in fact an Asian Babe.;)

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Ooooh something you have in common with Poppy?:rofl38:

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i know most of you have already judged me and "the unsigned!" (to
which i still direct their music ) as rascist,s, and even though you recently barred johnny,s
last post after being on air only 5minutes due to your
lack of compassion for anyone wrongly accused ,resulting in him now
being on anti-deppressants, its only fair that eventually after the (spiritual)slaughter of
h.b.c and h.a.r you will have to face up to your ignorance of the truth....
so allow me to judge some of the people too, then perhaps you may well ban me
for exerting an opinion which is independant from yours, but at least i am a better
"judge" as i judge a mans works and not his words, and to brand johnny without
so much as any hard evidence is a typical response to idle gossip yet isnt
justified or wise....not one jot or tittle... i wonder if you expect johnny to show you
mercy in his judgement of the ignorance surrounding the unsigned thing?
To be accused of racism by the biggest racists in the universe is like your big
brother blaming you and hiding behind a false smile, you must understand that
he is still angry (wouldnt you be if some idiots ruined your career?)
and no-one wants to hear the truth, you will be shocked at the
real agenda of the people who started all this, and you will need some brave
allys to rid the world of such beastly people who,s intention is to get rid of
folks who know what they are really up to..... it seems no-one in this town is interested in
asking questions about the real agendas which are hidden from you, otherwise you
would be rioting right now! eveyone is entitled to an opinion regardless of whether you agree
or not, if you wear the usual conformist blinkers then you will not bother to find out why
their opinions differ from the democracy of cloned idealisms which will always be a danger
to real freedom, not this brussels/u.s.a new world order they are grooming us for by
causing war and civil riots so that you cry out for more security...if you were presented
with facts from both sides of a dispute you may not trust the media ever again, and that
would be a good thing.... for instance.... what do you really know about israel?
as far as i know the state became jewish (as predicted in the holy bible) in 1947 after
oppresive rule by the "blasphemers of god" (muslims) ... who built a monument (the dome)
in 688 in the memory of their founder, mohamet, over the original site of the true gods temple...
....get a load of this.... apparently the true meccans actually worshipped as many as 360 different
gods, allah was just one, some beleive mohamet chose this one because his father (abdullah, meaning
follower of allah) worshipped this diety.... as you know some radical mussers want to flatten the
jewish homeland out of existence (and kill christians too) so wouldnt it be in your own interest to
scour the web for the truth instead of relying on the media? to brand johnny as a rascist through
the gossip of an organisation that plans to kill you makes it easier for them to brand everyone else
that goes against their masterplan, to rid the world of both jews AND CHRISTIANS, if you cannot
see this is where it will go then i pity you.... after we were accused of all this **** and banned by
the b.b.c (baals broadcasting co) for trying to say life is good life is short, i made my own enquiries
and was met by walls of ignorance everywhere, inc the .bbc.... i even got hold of a copy of the
koran to see what was so special about it, and there was the answer staring me in the face!
i always wondered why islam wanted salmon rushdie dead, but couldnt be bothered due to my
own ignorance at the time, after reading it i WOKE UP..... i thought god was about creation and love,
this blasphemous book is all about death (killing non-beleivers) and destruction, rushdie merely
pionted out a couple of "satanic verses" yet a fatwa was put on him by the ayatollah........
Thanks to islam for getting us banned! no really!!!!! i consider it a blessing in disguise, as i now
know the truth about islam, from the founder who broke every rule of his mandate, yet his god
excused his sins (how convenient) up to the current agenda which involves the destruction of
anything and anyone who isnt a submitter to the words of a madman...dont be deceived into
thinking god and allah are the same....they are the complete opposite (as in god and satan)
whereas the christian god welcomes you to question anything written in the bible....you question
the koran and you will be be-headed. in fact that still happens now as you read this, but its not covered
in the media because of the rascist card they always pull out....
the real god put his name on a white (the colour of purity) stone, yet islam worship and kiss a black
stone...the opposite...do you see anything peculiar? like i said do your own homework and make your
own mind up, im not devoutly religeous cus i cant stand zealots, but as a seeker of truth i have discovered
through science and spirituality alike that it leads to the same conclusion..... our days are numbered...
all the predictions in the bible and other works have been fullfilled, from the mayan,s to the jews....
i know for sure that if you stick around until the end of the decade, our destiny will become apparant...
even scientists dont know of the consequences of passing through the "photon belt" .... no-one has ever
left any tangible evidence behind... all roads lead to the same path, the age of aquarious....the photon belt...
judgement day...all carry the same message, but in a different way.... to call an observer of humanity and
a seeker of truth a rascist is downright BLASPHEMY, the unsigned wanted to unite this country and give us
all something in common, our enemies want to divide and segregate society so they have someone to kill,
god gave you free will to do as you please, just remember everything you DO has consequences which have
to be appeased when you expire! literally your souls are on "the line", the promotion of love and peace is the
only way to rid this world of evil, not to behead non-beleivers.....it is up to god to decide who is worthy of
death, not some self appointed self rightous zealots who will pay very dearly for their delusions, god loves all
of us,so why live in fear? i send my blessings to all and sundry, and my pity to all who are deluded.
Take note of whoever accuses you of being a rascist, you may well conclude that they are very insecure
and frightened people,frightened of death and frightened of the truth, for the truth will destroy them for sure.

p.s. The "photon belt" is a place in space/time in which we pass through every 26000 yrs or so,
it is not a lie.... no-one really knows of the consequences for mankind as no one has lived to tell!
the government know of it but dont want to tell you because it may lead to mass-hysteria!
heres a link, ignore at your peril, it may explain why the world is going mad......;)
http://www.2012.com.au/Photon_belt.html

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Could you edit your post and structure it a bit better? Its very hard to read when its all bunched up like that. I doubt many people will bother unless you make it more readable...

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I think the word you're looking for there Cyfr is 'eh?'

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Michael - 7/10 for spelling; 3/10 for punctuation; 10/10 for length and incomprehensibility of content.

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Is that not a tad generous?

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I tried, really tried to read that one. Sorry, Michael, but I just have not idea what you wish to express.:s_oooo: Any my eyes now hurt!

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I tried to read and understand it honestly I did. All I remember about the band you referred to was that I didn't particuarly like the music. I do remember you saying the BBC had banned something.

I'm not too sure about this:
I think there are still a few unfulfilled.

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I left my specs at work and have only gone 2/3 the way down. :o I think he is saying what he believes to be true in his own eyes. Please dont quote me on that. Makes a change from Jambutty's ones. ;)

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The real michael performance art piece.

Bravo.

A masterpiece.

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Seems i upset a few people with that post to the extent that I got negative. oh dear, so there are a few closet racists lurking in this thread after all.
Rindy there are some good and very valid points in this thread, and I never said poppy was right, I said she made a point of asking why race was vought into it and sugested it could be racist. to which all of us have said we don't believe it was, some however are on a witch hunt, proven by the fact that i got negative.
I wish we had more posters like poppy, rigt or wrong, who have the guts to debate in the open in threads instead of the gutless retards or do it in karma comments.
Perhaps then I'd start to contribute more again.

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I shot one across poppy's bows but it dosnt mean that the argument was right or wrong. After some of what I went through when I moved up here I felt I had to.

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My problem isn't with somebody expressing an opinion. It's with people like "Poppy", accusing people of being something that they aren't. S/he hasn't even tried to justify the comments. All that s/he said is "that because somebody say's that they're not racist, they must be". That's not really the basis for a sound argument, or for that matter even a debate. As for the witch hunt, well, i defended a friend (Silvermain) form the real world, & also somebody (Willow The Whisp) from the virtual world that is the internet. I don't understand the comments about being gutless, i haven't given out any bad "Karma", nor, do i intend to.

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You're missenterpreting each others comments, he/she thinks that your comments are meaning something different to what they are meant, thats a missunderstanding.
You know that you're not racist and thats all that counts.

Most of the negative karma I get is because people have took my post and twisted it to something that it's not. It seems it's the thing to do on purpose a lot of the time in here, some are certainly not genuine missunderstandings but vendeters by retards who only see one point of view and jump to the conclusion that it's not shared as you know.

To me this thread is about what is racist and what isn't, not who said and who twisted because all,or most can see whats happened in that respect, and know that you aren't. This is the best thread thats been on here in ages and for some reason i get chastised for pointing that out. Someone must agree because its's got five stars.
I couldn't really care less about the karma as I hardly come here much now, I used to just to keep my post count up and to try to add a different point of view to threads but I'm bored now so go elsewhwere. Less, tealeaf and AB don't contribute as much now either, all also have their own point of view so no doubt that will please some too.

Bit confused as I thought poppy was fem, so obviously I don't know poppy, but that doesn't change that fact that they do have the guts to give their opinions right or wrong, and the fact that they are against racism is a good quality. Poppy just needs to remember too pc is bad, it in itself is bordering on racism.

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ok here goes:

About 10 years ago i walked into a pub with a friend when i was on holiday. It was busy especially for a daytime. I walked up to the bar and ordered 2 1/2's of lager. The whole pub went quiet. The barman served me and when he gave me my change he told me he couldnt refuse to serve me but it would be better if we drank up and left. Which we did. When we were leaving i shouted thank you and bye. Just like i do over here. The noise level went back up.

Where were we: Belfast

Turned out we were in a Catholic pub in the centre of Belfast. An english voice in an irish pub. If i'd walked into a protestant pub - i'd have been ok.


Is that being racist? Would i have had a case against the pub for being 'advised to leave'?

By the way accyjay - no i dont think you are

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I'm not saying poppy is right, I AM saying I think poppy is wrong that the initial comment was racist and the interpretation of the comment by willow, BUT i can see where that view comes from. Quite often racist people do hide by saying they have coloured, asian friends, not all but some do.


I am one of those who has friends of different ethnic origins and I have to actually stop and think about it(that they are from different ethnic origins) because first and foremost they are human beings.

One mixed race family I have to think hard to remember which one of the parents is which [IMG]images/smilies/biggrin.gif[/IMG] but to be told it's a racist response for any of us to comment that we have friends of different races when we are accused of being racist is just as hurtful.

interpretation is everything.

Excellent post jen, were they racist, yes I think the customers were, the bar man probably not.

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How can you possibly assume that the barman was or wasn't racist?

All that can be assumed from this is he was sticking to the law, by serving them, the latter part of the sentence may have been said either as a threat or as friendly advice.

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He may have been, but it sounds more like friendly advice than telling them to get out. Im sorry but I don't want you in here would be different.
Only jen can tell the true tone of the barman though, it may have been said like an order rather than advice.
Anyway, who's to say jen isn't english catholic, so yes I think you would have had a case, whether his advice was racist or for your protection is irelevant, it was given because his customers were being so, and in doing so forced a situation were you had to leave for your own safety.

I've been in rockers pubs, (before I had the long hair and stubble) and we've gotten some really threatening looks, but we stayed drank and left. Funny how I can walk in to a rockers club in brum where the door men carry machettes and don't get hassle when I've got long hair.

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Why would anyone with an ounce of sanity or good sense even want to go into a club where the 'greeters' guard the door with machettes?

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lol good point less, I went with 'friends' and didn't know till one of the 'friends' friends that I'd only just met pointed the fact out. If I'd seen them, like he did before we went in I'd have never have gone in.
I question the sanity of this friend as to why he never thought it relevent enough to tell me, I can only assume it was because he didn't know me and thought i'd been before with this mutual friend so I'd already know. The people we both went with I no longer have anything to do with.
If i go brum now I stick to broad street clubs.

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Yes by all means lets encourage people who are willing to openly debate. I'm all for that. But Poppy isn't debating. Poppy is accusing us left right and centre of being something we are not and then when we try to explain that we are not he then says that only proves that we are.



OK so you now admit that Poppy misinterpreted what I said. My problem is that HE will not admit that. He insists that I have backpedalled and that what I originally meant was that I do not think anyone other than white anglo saxons are even human! THAT is why I am angry with Poppy. I have not misinterpreted Poppy at all as far as I am aware. If you can show me anywhere that you feel I have done so I will gladly look at that and if I have made a mistake I will admit it and apologise. Poppy however is quite clear in his insistance that I am racist and that disgusts me.

As for the bit about racist people hiding their racism by claiming to have "coloured" friends then how are those of us with friends of different racial and ethnic origins supposed defend the accusation of racism and illustrate it?




Fair enough - your added bit does perhaps clarify my original post a little better even if it does make the sentence a bit ugly. My point is that everyone but Poppy saw it as meaning that. Poppy misread/misinterpreted it but hasn't got the guts to admit he did. He blindy continues to insist that I said some people are not human and that when I subsequently pointed out his error he then accused me of backpedalling. If he had been willing to accept that he'd misrepresented me I would have said OK and the whoe thng would have been over and done with.


I doubt that would have mattered. It's a common misunderstanding that it's a religious conflict. It isn't. It's political. It just happens that the Unionists tend to be Catholic and the Loyalists tend to be Protestant. If anyone saw David Tenants search for his ancestors last night it gave an excellent insight into what is a difficult sitution for most outsiders to understand.

On the subject of racism three is often a misundertanding that it's only white people who can be racist. I've been the victim of racism too and I find graffitti on a wall near here to be particularly offensive. It states "Pakis Rule, Honkys out!"

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wouldn't that be as follows if I did...
I'm not saying poppy is right, I AM saying I think poppy is wrong that the initial comment was racist and the interpretation of that comment by willow, BUT i can see where that view comes from.

I could have written it better though which would be a wise thing to do on here.

OK so you now admit that Poppy misinterpreted what I said

dunno why you put that, I said it was all misinterpreted/a misunderstanding form the start. TBH i didn't understand your post, so he wasn't the only one, it's just that I know you better than he does like most on here and therefore knew what you meant, just like you knew what I meant above.
But if you substitute what he thought you meant

I am one of those who has friends of different ethnic origins and I have to actually stop and think about it(that they are human beings) because first and foremost they are human beings.

It no longer makes sense at all.

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Whats a unionist, I noticed it on the con club door yesterday?

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I am one of those who has friends of different ethnic origins and I have to actually stop and think about it(that they are human beings) because first and foremost they are human beings.


But that doesn't make sense. If I say that first and foremost they are humn bings why would I have to stop and remind myself that they are human beings?

Anyway, as I said, I was willing to concede that Poppy had misundestood my post which was why I made an attempt to clarify it. He was not willing to accept that and accused me of backpedalling with my explanation which added insult to injury.

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What are people called if they want it to be united and the united country to be loyal to the crown.

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There are no such people! :D

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Just go down Falls Rd in Belfast, ask anyone, they will willingly tell you what a unionist is. Oh, and there's also a good chance that they will give you a practical demonstration of prejudice as well!
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Dead!:eek:

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lol no thanks less I'm not that brave or stupid. wonder why the conservative club has thaton its door. Wonder if its to do with the old work house, that was called unionists and may have been there. appropriate really conservative/ workhouse. thats another ism, classism.

we now have two tiers of working class, english working class and foreign working class on lower wages, surely thats racism.

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How could anybody say that this is selective quoting or twisting things? For gods sake, i quoted you word for word. It's there for all to see (page 7, post 101).


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:smilingfa a unionist is somebody who wants the political union of scotland northern ireland wales and england to stay..:Banane38:
and if you called a person in ireland who wants a united ireland a unionist i would advise you not to... cause the unionist party in norn ireland is a loyalist party ..the word unionist on the con club door is to do with the con political party as its full name is the conservative and unionist party of great britain and northern ireland.................:Banane38:

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It would appear that WTW has been labouring under a misapprehension. Have a read at this it explains it better than I could:
http://www.answers.com/topic/unionism-ireland

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I was just about to tell you that unionists are protestant - want to keep it to the 6 counties and loyal to the queen. Sinn Finn - are catholic and want a united ireland. Thanks yerself for that.

How we knew the pub was catholic - it was full of tricolours and celtic and there was a couple of ira posters up.
Why the barman said that to me was because of the english accent. I could have been an english catholic and they wouldnt know. I went in a protestant pub - they had a picture of the queen up and rangers stuff and it was totally different. People once they heard the english accent came up to me and said it was nice to hear an english accent in here and i was very welcome and i didnt buy a drink after id bought the 1st one! Why? Because they said because of the troubles people didnt like coming over there because they thought it was all bombs and shooting etc. Okay it was a bit different seeing the police in full body armour and walking down the street with rifles in their hands and army out on the street. But i love it over there.

By the way nearest to what i can think of - tories are unionists - labour party are the labour party over there, lib dems are the lib dems but you dont see that many of them over there.

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Thanks to all esp jen for that, it makes sense now.

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Nationalists - catholics.

Had to think about that one for you willow.

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your welcome willow

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Yes, although he comes across as a bit of a dick-son, it was one of the most moving programmes in the series.

Paxman crying for the hard life his grannies hard life in a poverty stricken Glasgow tenement, was still the best one though.

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I havent watched any of the series at all. I keep forgetting its on!

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Someone just pointed out something quite hilarious to me about these two posts. :D Can you guess what it is?

Why does Poppy assume that I am white and that my friends are 'coloured' ?

Even if he had read it correctly, unless he knows me, there's nothing to say that I'm not Nigerian and the mixed race family could equally well be white Anglo Saxon and Native American! :rofl38:The assumption of Poppy's couldn't have been ................. :eek:............ a racist one could it? :D

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Excellent point.

:banjump:

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I think even a court of law would have cleared you now Willow, Poppy join the club you are now a convicted racist how do you plead?

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Now do I get invited to meetings?

What a defense. Someone suggests you might be racist so you all twist it about so the person asking is a racist and you are all squeaky clean. Do you know what the best bit is?

You believe yourselves.

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I wouldn't hold my breath on that one Willow.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp You still owe me an apology for misinterpreting my words and then falsely accusing me of something I hadn't said.

you said it. you quoted it.

You want me to apologise? I take it you have decided I am white so I am human?

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Poppy, Willow is one of the most unjudgemetal people I have ever met in my life.

Colour is irrevevant.

I think there was a major misunderstanding here.

Time to kiss and make up, me thinks.

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Well OK then. poppy sends a big virtual sloppy kiss to Garinda.

All sorted now?

Willowthewhisp. You owe Garinda one. that can't have been nice for him LOL

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I have stopped and keeping to my part of the bargain (how could I not after that kiss?) Willowthewhisp. Your attempts to draw me into a silly argument will not work.

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Agreed.

Poppy, it may be sexist/racist etc. but you are a pillock.

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No I will not be drawn in. I am a human of my word. I keep to my half of the deal.

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Poppy you don't know me, and I don't know you, but I have met Willow, and she certainly isn't a racist. Please believe me., and I would be the first to jump on her case if she was.

There has been a major misunderstanding here.

An appology would be in order, if it was me that had made the remark.

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Knowing what you believe in is good, but your pigheadedness is sad.:(

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That may be so but what is wrong with admitting you made a mistake when reading the original quote? It takes a brave person to hold up a hand and admit a mistake than to cower away and say nothing and hide behind a bucket load of self sustaining rethoric.

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I think the diagnosis is on target! Or, perhaps just a pill?

How's life in West View? Just talked with Pendy and David on Sunday.

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Life's good, and we are all looking forward to seeing you at Christmas. Though I doubt we'll be sat outside until the wee small hours, like we did in the summer.:D.:D

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What race is the flying fig?
Is being proud to be british being racist, Is fighting for your country racist? Is not wanting to be flooded with immigrants racist?

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Ask that of the real Brits ie those with red hair white skin freckles and a seriously bad temper. The Celts are the true Brits the rest are interlopers that have popped along and stayed over the centuries (Romans Angles Saxons Jutes Scandinavians Normans etc etc etc)

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Well I'm descended from a mixed bag of interlopers! :D

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Most places in the world have had a lot of interlopers over time. Didn't the Celts interlope on the Beaker people? Probably the only folks who didn't interlope on others were the Neanderthals!;)

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off topic but depends how far back we go.. the Celts were mixed race Nordic Indo-European invaders.. sorry to dissapiont you, not the the real brits, but also interlopers.

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Even King Arthur wasn't a true Brit. ;)

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So at the end of the day we are all heinz 57 and cannot complain about anyone.