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Most of us are lardy compared to Sparks and I wouldn't mind but he never stops eating..:rolleyes: Where is the justice in that????

I was painfully thin as a teenager and my mate's boyfriend used to call me Spindle because of my skinny legs. I hated it and never, never wore skirts, shorts or anything that would show my legs in case I invited comments about how skinny I was.

Luckily I did put some weight on when I got into my 20's and managed to fill out a bit. Now, in my late 30's, it seems that I am still filling out a bit..:o My excuse is that I find it difficult to sit and watch Sparks eating a nice dessert in a restaurant and not have one too...:D

I know totally where Slinky is coming from because I used to find the comments about my weight and skinny legs hurtful..
Now I just find the comments about my lardy arse and wobbly bits hurtful..:rolleyes:

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That goes for most things not just weight issues. People regardless of who they are, have a hang-up about a particular part of their body. If someone is fat, or thin or has a big nose (thanks Mez ;) ) or wears glasses, I'm sure that person knows that themselves and may be self conscious about it, they hardly need it pointing out and drawing attention to it from someone else. Just a case of putting ones brain into gear before opening ones gob me does think. :rolleyes:

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I have a feeling I will be reminding you of that quote soon. :D

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I think that if anyone does this if just plain bad-mannered and would probably comment the same about someone they consider overweight ... a lot of the time it can be the overweight person who is conscious of her weight and a sort of bitchiness to compensate them.

I have a friend who insults me regularly by calling me the 'stick insect' and thinks ought to put more weight on ..... Excuse Me !! no way can I be described as this !!!

As always being slim herself in the past, and now 'grown' a little in size, is feeling a lack of self-confidence .. although she is still extemely attractive, just wants me to join her club so to speak.

I ignore it of course and, yes, still are good friends believe it or not.. :D

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Dont worry tinks mine is ... "aqualine" ..too;) :D so u aint on yer own:(

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Thing ive learnt over the years being bullied for everything so far lol is that the only person that has the problem is the person that subjects judgement onto someone for whatever reason, if someone insists on bringing a weight or height or whatever issue means that 'that' person themselves have the issue not the person subjected to it!

I mean if you aint got a problem with it .....then why do they bring it up then?:rolleyes:

Mind u i have yet for someone to come up with something new & insulting to call me:rolleyes: lol water off a ducks back

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:rolleyes: Hmmm :rolleyes: ....... I'l get my thinking cap on :D

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I mean if you aint got a problem with it .....then why do they bring it up then?:rolleyes:[/quote]

Not sure if that is aimed at me and this thread?? But I will reply anyway. I brought this thread up because, It is one of my absolute hates when people think it is o.k to put people down about weight issues. I hate people who thinks it is o.k to call someone FAT, STICK THIN, ANOREXIC ( when they aren't they are just slim) being a Anorexic is a Illness - being slim is just what you are even though you eat see the difference. Making judgments on peoples sizes can have a lasting impact on that person, even though the person that makes the judgement may never ever think of the comment they made ever again.

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If ya do i will give ya a round of applause for originality:D lol

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Nope its just aimed generally at the name callers.....but also yeh it could go for the thread too, people call people because of their ignorance, own in security & having a narrow mind - one thing that took me a long time to get in line was my own reaction to it [ask your tinks about my school years!] people say hurtful stuff to make themselves feel better & to gain reaction in hope others join the bandwagon so makes them feel GOOD or popular [saddo's] - so whats the worse thing you can do is fuel their fire with a reaction!!! I do the absolute opposite & well practised on one person i feared & it works cos it takes the power off them to yourself, like i said i dont take offense to name calling in fact immune had it too long over my life & like i said above i've yet to find someone to be original & call me something i haven't been called before if they have to, i will give em a round of applause - only happened a few times tho & it shocks them more that i aint bothered but clapped em for it with a :D

I dont know what started this slinky so cant comment about it but i've known you for a long time & know u as a person & i know u can hold yer own no matter what.

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I think it's just the way we are. Maybe subconsciously it makes us feel better about our own hang-ups if we criticise someone elses. I suppose it starts very young, in schools .... skinny, fatty, specky, bean pole. Maybe it's just easier to criticise than to give compliments. I dunno ... what I do know though is it would be boring if we were all the same. :rolleyes:

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Too true:D Kids are mega mean!! LOL Surprising how many can still hold onto that time me included, i must admit i find it so much easier to take criticisms than actual genuine compliments:rolleyes: auto pilot comes on a bit quick

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Some adults can be just as mean Mel, it's not fair just to say it's kids....

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Think u need to re read Slinky it was in reference to it starting at school as tinks post. Dont i know adults can be mean 1st lesson i learnt slinky, seems that who-ever started this has got just what they set out to do which is to upset you.:(

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Some adults? :( I've had this conversation many times! There's no-one meaner than adults. Give me a gang of name calling kids over nasty evil adults who should know better anyday.

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We all do it Slinky, whether we realise it or not. Have a look at these 2 quotes while I go and hide.

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Neil run & hide LOL but again very true point & a sad fact of human nature.

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Yeah but he does have a fat head lol...... well done Neil I applaud you.

I would never say that to his face though.......and yes as a kid I was just as evil as any other kid.

Don't hide Neil... you made a comment, and that is good. Say what you mean and mean what you say.

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I find the worst of the worse for hurtful biatchyness is women - they are really cruel - even worse hormonal LOL

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Oh I don't know ... men are catching up quickly and they don't have the excuse of PMT ;)

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Hey Mel before I joined this site I would have agreed with you on that one!! BUT some of the men on this site put us BITCHES to shame. Maybe they are Testosteronal :D

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LOL true point if they can do the long chatty calls then they learnt how to biatch altho not quite as good yet lol:Banane43:

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LOLOL they not effected me yet i can handle them;) :D :Banane26:

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Either that or they're all bi-sexual!! :D

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Hmmmmm one wonders!! :rolleyes:

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Like you alluded to Willow's size, for anybody that may not have met her, when you refered to a member in this thread?

Respect works both ways.

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Hmmm did I mean Willow?? how do you know who I meant?? you Mystic Meg these days.

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I (nearly) always do. The hiding bit was just a joke. I know you are a pussy cat really. You must be to have shared Ginger with me at the meet :D :D Although I think you might have upset Rindy, he has a (not very) secret crush on your husband you know.

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Lol I will share him any time!! I'm not selfish...... as for the pussy cat bit, yeah I am actually lol.

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Maybe thats whats wrong with Rindy Roo, he is upset 'cus you are spreading Ginger around too much :D

Note to Mr R Roo.

Seeing as you are so upset about it you may have Ginger all too yourself.

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That should put a smile on his face........and you can have him in the shower if you're a VERY good boy....:rolleyes:

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Well who were you refering to? There was only myself, Gayle and Willow that had posted then. Not got the bottle to say what you actually mean because you'd look mean, peevish and just a tad shallow and hypocritical?

Tact goes both ways, or is it just slim people who are offended by supposed criticism?

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Runs and hides behind sofa.......Rindy's dummy hitting the wall at lightening speed.

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Actually Rindy Rudy......Tinkerbelle had posted in that thread ;)

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Great attitude Slinks.

If we lose Willow from this forum, because she thinks the coven hates her, it's down to you, according to the message I had from her.

She wasn't the only person you upset with your nasty comments, three more females pm'd me but were too afraid to post....and all because you were so insulted were non was intended, if you had the intelligence to actually read the original post, that so offended your delicate ego, you'd have seen that.

Like I said respect works both ways.

Bored now.

As for Ginger, I've just ordered a gold medal for putting up with you for the last ten years.:D

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Don't you dare try to make my sister feel like a lesser person than Willow or any other member! Everybody has feelings. My are my sisters not important? If you'd have just apologised for your sweeping remark about stick thin people she wouldn't have to ellaborate would she!! :mad:

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Oh Tinks don't let him get to you chick. He can't have a opinion on his own, so he needs to make things up as he goes along, then say I upset people with my remarks. Will the people I have upset PLEASE pm me. I would like to know who you are. I had the guts to stand up for something I believe in, in full view of everyone else. SO SHOOT ME!!! If you reply to me by PM tonight, I may not have time to reply as I have to take my kiddi winkles to a Bonfire now. But I WILL reply and I look forward to hearing from you all.

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If you bother to read back I've appologised for unintentionally causing offence to Slinks more than once, which is more than she has to Willow, and even if she wasn't refering to Willow, who has taken it personally, what's the difference between Slinks taking offence at something that was unintentional, and Willow doing the same? None. At least I had the good manners to appologise.

I'll state again, women of all sizes are welcome to come and model, not just stick thin anorexics.(Meaning that unlike Milan/New York/Paris, models of all sizes will be welcome, including anorexics and lard arses, and everyone in between.)

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If you all go to the Plough at 7:30pm tonight to watch the fireworks I will buy you all a drink so you can kiss and make up before this goes too far.



By all I mean Slinky and Rindy ( and Ginger if I get another kiss ;) ), the rest of you can buy your own you bunch of tight wads :rolleyes: :D

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Don't start.

You'll lose.

Trust me.

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We will see.......I want the PM's mate because I want to know who I have upset.

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As a bloke my self, i assure u im straighter than a pair of parallel lines :D
I, far one hate skinny doesn't do it 4 me at all. My girlfriend constantly strives far that extra pound that she can lose, time and time again i tell her skinny is not attractive (at least to me) its all about the tone. You can be 10 stone and still do it 4 me ^^

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This is not a new argument

Life and Health | Health and wellbeing | The shape we're in

Can I just reiterate that at no point did I say that you, Slinky, or anyone else for that matter, was unattractive because you were slim. I would never, ever, say anything to anyone about their weight. Mostly because I am self concious enough about my own that I would never comment on anyone elses.

My point was, and still is, that some women STARVE themselves to attain the body of a model. STARVING yourself is not healthy and there is no way that I would want to promote STARVATION as a lifestyle.

Healthy people come in all shapes and sizes, and that is what we want to represent in our fashion show.

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OK, I was going to stay away from AccyWeb until people had stopped arguing about this because I have some real life things which have a bit of a bearing on some of the comments in here but which I don't actually want to go into in public, but following something someone said to me privately today I felt I want to come on this thread to clear up a couple of things from my point of view.

In Gayle's orignal thread Slinky said:

Now when I'd read Gayle's post and Rindy's post referring to thin models I did not think of naturally slim and attractive people, I thought of the so-called "super waif" image which is neither natural nor attractive. These aren't people who are naturally slim. Naturally slim people are attractive. These people Gayle and Rindy referred to are people who starve themselves almost to death to acheive an impossible figure which does not look attractive. I'm sure even the slim people on here and not just the 'fat cows' like me will look at those photographs with all the ribs and collar bones poking through the skin and in no way feel that these are images of attractive people.

Now normal people come in all shapes and sizes - some of us are short squirts with little fat legs and can't reach the top shelves in the kitchen. Some of us are blessed to be taller and oh how I envy them when they can just reach out and get something when I have to go and get a stepstool first. I refer to my own "little legs" when I can't reach things - or even struggle to climb onto a bar stool (Mez may rmember me doing that in the Stag) because I know I'm short. If anyone else refers to me as short it's just a fact. It's not an insult. Some people who are taller than average get a complex about their height. Maybe it's uncomfortable to be very tall - I don't know. Only a tall person can answer that.

I didn't, and still don't, see any reason why a naturally slim person who hasn't starved themselves into ill health to acheive a bustless bumless straight up and down bag of bones shape but who has a normal natural figure should jump to the defence of a hypothetical someone who has.

When some people see gorgeous dresses being worn by these models who only have the figures they have due to abusing their bodies they then buy something similar and when it doesn't look the same on them they assume they are at fault and try to emulate the model and acheive the same figure - with often tragic results. Young women have literally starved themselves to death trying to acheive something which they were never meant to be.

To those of you who are naturally slim and healthy then naturally slim is what you are meant to be and as I said to Garinda, if anyone called me a beanpole or a stick I'd be chuffed to little mintballs because it would mean I'd actually managed to lose weight, but it is probably an impossible dream for me due to a mixture of health problems which I don't intend to go into.

Please don't insult the intelligence of the fat cows amongs us by saying that people daren't insult us because it isn't PC. There is no legislation against fattism. In fact it has even been suggested that we are a hazzard to the public at large by our very existence in just the way that passive smokers cause others to breathe in their fumes. It has been proposed that we should be weighed when travelling by air and have to pay excess baggage. I've had insults shouted at me by ignorant kids and snide remarks made by ignorant adults such as "look at the size of that one." and "no wonder the chairs in here are broken" (in an office where I once worked, and no, I didn't break the chairs young idiots playing on them did that.)

We are told that we are ugly and accused of being sweaty, smelly and lazy by people who do not know us and in voices loud enough to be heard.

I would never insult a slim person. I envy slim people and would love to be one and if it was as easy as you think then why would I still be the size I am? I don't enjoy it. It isn't fun. Some overweight people may make jealous comments about slim people out of envy. I doubt a slim person would ever make a comment about a fat person out of envy.

However, although I would never insult a person of any size for being naturally that size, height or whatever; I do think it is wrong for fashion models to have been forced into trying to maintain an unnaturally skinny (and I choose that word intentionally as opposed to slim) shape which they can only sustain by living an unhealthy lifestyle.

For Gayle to have simply wanted to represent normal people of all shapes and sizes as opposed to the artificial model image and for it to have deteriorated into insulting people of different shapes and sizes is something I cannot understand. If you slim people have experienced insults from others in real life why should you then want to insult fat people here on AccyWeb when we have done nothing nor said anything to insult or offend you?

I hope this makes sense. I hope you can understand that the only people I have a problem with are the Kate Moss 'superwaif' types who live on snorting coke and smoking in order to stay impossibly thin. As a mother of teenage girls I hope and pray they never see anyone like that as a role model.

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And you WILLOW!!! before I am banned!!! You should have known better than to hide behind ****ing RINDY!!!!!!

Never did I ever make any nasty comment towards you.........but you!!!! didn't have the ****ing guts to PM me and tell me where and when I had offended you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! probably because it never ****ing happened.

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Thankyou for that post WILLOW..I really hope through these post's that I haven't offended you in any way shape or form, but as you will have noticed, I am being made out to be calling large people, and as people will have noticed, my own husband is not a small person either, so as I meant at the beginning of all this I do NOT like comments about either size and that is how all this started me voicing a personal opinion. So once again, there was no offence meant to anybody.

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I am soooo sorry if you thought this was aimed at you willow!! Actually it was aimed at MADHATTERS post and post's being closed when still good opinions were being put forward SORRY again if you thought this was because of you.

And actually before the last meet I would never have known you even if I had have fallen over you.......but I would never have described you as the FATEST person I ever met.......not only would that be awfully bloody wrong.......but it is something I would never ever say in the first place.

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Right now thats sorted can we get back to the thread PLEASE:)

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Now that some of the posts have been removed it unfortunately makes some of the responses to those posts looks as foolish as posts which respond to those which have been subsequently edited. :(

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is that where my mop went!!
GET SOME STEAK PUDS DOWN YA WOMAN! YUK!!

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Do you think I'm stupid or something? :rolleyes: ....... In fact don't answer. :)

I'm not going to be responding Willow, between you and Gary you'll only manage to twist and turn it to make me look the bad guy ;)

Delete it Len ....... Thick skinned and don't give a shi ....... damn! :)

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Listen you lot,

I am the only stick thin anorexic in the village so the rest of you can sling yer 'ook.


I think it is time for the media to stop printing pictures and airing TV programmes of these stick thin anorexic type models as shown above. Maybe then us, the public can show these 'few homosexual designers' (as Rindy said above) that we don't want to see this type of model and we don't want our daughters unhealthily starving themselves trying to achieve that look.

Until the media start giving a damn about the health of these (and our) young girls then we can vote with our wallet's and TV remote's. Don't buy the magazines and turn over the TV when the fashion shows come on. If you really care enough then why not email the magazines and TV companies stating you view.

Maybe someone on here could get together and post a list of email addresses for all the fashion type magazines and TV shows. We could write an email with picture attachments and we can all send emails to them.

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Sorry Willow but I don't agree with your comment above. As the saying goes 'Beauty is in the eye of the beholder'. I think a more accurate statement would be 'some people are ugly and some people are not'. I see good looking people of all shapes and sizes, I also see ugly ones of all shapes and sizes. Size is not a definition of beauty.

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Personally i think this is a no win arguement everybody even me have some form of hang up over our own bodies so you should all kiss & make up!:D

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I have left some space above for you to list them Mel :D :D :D

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No, please don't do that Willow. Neil is right (look at that Neil, we're agreeing again), beauty is absolutely nothing to do with size - as I'm sure Busman will also confirm. Beauty is far more than that and fortunately there are men out there who like all different types of women.

I'm not conventionally beautiful and according to Less I'm dumpy, add to that the view that my children have of me with a wrinkly forehead and wobbly belly and I could have a real downer on my body image. We all have issues with the way we look but beauty is well and truly in the eye of the beholder and so no one should ever allow anyone else to call them ugly and no one should ever call themselves that.

As we get older things change and we have to accept that we are never going to look like we did at 20 again but we can't beat ourselves up about it.

Willow, you have so much more to offer than physical beauty, please don't do yourself an injustice.

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Who sets the rules for beauty? what one can see as beautiful another can see as not so [ugly is not a nice term] we set our own rules for it, as for having gone thro councelling a lot of it is in the mind & attitude - i much rather someone be beautiful in the inside than on the outside - trust me! I've known some outsidely good looking people but absolutely horrible on the inside, to deem an outside attractiveness takes about 30 secs but then what u want to find is that the outside matches the inside.

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LOL im not listing them:eek: mind u theres not anything that i would go under the knife for so cant be that bad i've learnt to accept myself wrinkly & wobbly an all that least its mine :D

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OK, here we have me about 17 years ago before I started trying to lose weight. Please ignore hideously baggy bottomed jeans! I have no idea why I thought they were appealing but I liked them at the time!! I look back on this and hopefully without sounding conceited I now think this is an attractive image. I didn't at the time because I felt my bum was too big and I wanted it to be smaller, hence the dieting.

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a3...p/Image001.jpg

Here we have me a couple of years ago. This is not an attractive image. In no way can this image be described as anything but ugly and fat. I am the first to admit that.

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a3...p/Image002.jpg

But I don't think the superwaif catwalk models are any more attractive or any less ugly than the second photo of me and yet they intend to look like that and they are expected to look like that by a fashion industry which says that looking like that is necessary in order to be a fashion model. Why else would the pleasantly attractive Sophie Dahl have conformed? She was already beautiful but she spoiled her beauty in order to conform.

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So from other recent posts, if dimbo is a dim bimbo and dumbo is short for dim jumbo then dumpy must mean dumb and lumpy.
Thats not very nice of Less, I think you are very intelligent Gayle :rolleyes: :D

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Groucho Marks once said - if you want to get a beautiful woman into bed tell them they're smart and if you want to get an intelligent woman into bed tell them they're beautiful! :D

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Sophie Dahl is an interesting point, re: the fashion industry's attitude to size. When she became the face of Yves Saint Laurent she was a size 14.

Gasp!

An 'outsize' model was chosen to front one of the world's leading fashion companies!

After gaining a lot of good publicity for the company, a year later she was quietly dropped and replaced by Kate Moss. She's said in interviews since that in order to carry on finding work, once the novelty had worn off about 'outsize' models, remember she was a size 14 and six foot tall, she felt compelled to diet. She's now a size 8. Still beautiful, but the point is she was compelled to become thinner if she wanted to work.

http://www.lacoctelera.com/esestosan...ntitled3_7.jpg

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but certainly wasn't present in some of the foul mouthed posts from the early hours of Sunday morning, that have since been deleted, and to refer to me as a 'milk shaker', which I have taken to refer to Parkinson's, and which showed a very ugly attitude.

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I have only one thing to say in this thread and that is that BEAUTY comes from WITHIN. Some of the things that have been said on this thread have not been very Beautiful, however I can see both sides and do see where you are coming from.

Willow DO NOT pull yourself down, there are enough people out there in the world waiting to do that! I know that you are a very beautiful, caring person, and that means far more to others than wether you are slim or not.

Love to everyone, I think we need a GROUP HUG !!!!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp**[/COLOR OK, I was going to stay away from AccyWeb

You’re not the only one. I had no intention of posting in this thread or on the forum boards of accyweb again, so last night I didn’t appreciate being dragged into it yet again. I only came into thread to try and explain it from slinkys point of view. Between Gary, yourself and a lovely bit of editing to one of my posts (which, for the record, was in no way any reference to your weight, it was an answer to the numerous references Gary had made to you in an earlier post), we’ve been made to look like we have a problem with large people.


Willow I can see you’ve got a very painful issue with your weight, but this thread was never about you. How you’ve managed to take it personally only you know. No were did I see slinky reference YOU as being over weight. You really need to sit back and have a think about this Willow, was it comments made by slinky that you have taken personally yourself or has Gary managed to make you believe it was aimed at you, being, as you say the only large lady to post in the thread? You’ve go to admit when he uses someone so blatantly in pain about a situation she has no control over, it doesn’t half strengthen his argument ;)


As slinky has said, she has no issue with her weight, it just bugs the life out of her, as it does me, having to endure years of comments such as,” God aren’t you skinny” or “God your sister is skinny”. You say you would never make a comment like that Willow, no of course you wouldn’t, you know how it feels just in an opposite respect.


It’s a shame this conversation has to be had over a pc or you would see how sincere I am when I say this thread was not at aimed at you. As others have said, which I whole heartedly agree with, you are a wonderful person, why you feel the need to worry about your weight I don’t know. You’re just our Willow off accyweb. :) I hope one day, for yourself, you can find some personal peace with your size, as I can see how raw your feelings are.

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People in glass houses Gary, your nasty little comments directed at my sister at the start of this thread were far from funny or polite. You never fail to surprise me the lengths you will go to when you’re backed into a corner. I hope you’re happy with the amount of people you’ve managed to upset in this thread! In fact, I know you will be! Feel free to exonerate yourself of any upset caused, I know you won’t have a problem doing so, at least that way it keeps your conscience clear.


Slinky still hasn’t had any pm’s from these women you say she’s supposedly upset by the way, fictitious, again to strengthen your argument? Yes probably.

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I said GROUP HUG folks!!!!!

There's not enough love in this thread

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It does not matter what your size is its what's inside that counts.
I have made a lot of friends here on Accyweb,
I dont care what size,colour, shape,age ect they are you are all good mates and fun to be with.
I just love YOU ALL
now can we stop this and get back to the thread ta:) :) PLEASE

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Again I would like to appologise for the hurt I caused because of the thoughless terminology I used earlier.

However I do think it is a serious issue.

An interesting note about the issue of the fashion industy's attitude to size can be seen on Channel 5's programme Make me a Supermodel.

I mentioned before that one of the girls is a single mum from Wigan. She gets hassle from the judges all the time because they tell her she's too big to be a model. She was measured last night and weighed, and has actually gained weight and put two inches on her waist size in the three weeks she's been on the programme.

Each week the judges, Rachel Hunter, Dylan Jones, Tandy the owner of one of the UK's top model agencies, and a photographer, put up the models who haven't in their eyes followed their advice. Jen the Wigan lass was put up for the public vote last week, and the public voted to save her. Mainly because she has a cracking sense of humour as well as being gorgeous.

Ironically, even though she isn't the judges favourite to win, and if the public vote her as the ultimate winner, she will struggle to find work as a model because she isn't the perfect sample size.


jen's gallery | make me a supermodel | five.tv

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Krizia model on the catwalk this Spring in Milan.

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More like WHAT is that.

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She is.

Sadly the judges decided to put her up for the public vote again this week, citing her weight as the reason. After leaving the room she then went white and fainted.

It showed a clip from the next programme, and in it she explains why she fainted. Lets hope she hasn't been making herself sick or starving herself in a last ditch attempt to win over the judges.:(

A close relative, sporty, healthy and intelligent, and ten years old, told me this week at my Mum's birthday tea that she needs to lose three pounds. That I find sick.

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Hee hee, that real life chat wasn't the one with me by any chance was it willow???? :D :rolleyes:

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Nah, it was one of the cats! :D

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Hmph, well I'm not coming round to yours again if you think I'm one of your cats now!!!!! :D

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http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/a...1&d=1163001071


http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/a...1&d=1163001071

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It's a sad world we live in;my daughter's father is of the opinion that she is overweight and has told her so,very helpful for a hormonal 10 year old to hear that! She is turning into a young lady and developing virtually before our eyes! She is never gonna be Kate Moss as I am 5ft 4.5 and her dad is about the same,neither of us are slim so what does he expect! It's a constant struggle to get her to focus on the more important things in life and realise that we love her as she is!

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I've met your beautiful daughter, and she is a star. It just seems sad that young girls, and increasingly boys, are being taught to become body concious at such a young age, this is nothing to do with health.

There is plenty of time for us to develop neurosis as adults, without screwing up the next generation now. Let them enjoy their childhoods, without all this b*llocks about wanting to have the perfect body, which is foisted upon us by the fashion industry and the media, and which most of us will never obtain anyway.

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Okay, looks like this thread has finally run out of steam. I truly hope so many of these "intense" discussions don't cause any lasting damage to relationships. As in real life, families fight and families make up (most times). I hope a few p.m. are sent to ensure wounds are healed eh. Not a sermon, just a thought!

Plus, as you all can see by the latest entrance in Gayle's show. No others need apply!:D

Keep Smiling!

Brian

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Judging by the way you strike a pose, Garinda will be looking over his shoulder! :D

Has anyone else notised the old boy in the foreground giving it the "Peter Kay" treatment? :rolleyes:

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I'm not reigniting this thread to cause offence, just to let you know what happened on Make me a Supermodel last night, for those of you who may have a life, and were probably doing something more interesting on a Friday night instead.:D

Jen, the Mum from Wigan, again faced the public vote for the second time because she's put on weight whilst taking part of the programme. In the live catwalk walk off they showed a VT clip were she talked about her weight and the pressure she felt under to conform. She looked stunning, but was told by the judges she had a pretty face but was too fat to be a successful model. Rachel Hunter really layed into her for using the clip about her weight to gain votes.

It's quite ironic, Rachel Hunter was never a supermodel, she only found success after she married Rod Stewart. Another of the judges Tandy who runs one of the biggest model agencies, is a larger women to put it politely.

Anyway the public voted to keep Jen in, and next week she's in the final four to win the modelling contract. I was so incensed at the way she was treated I, for the first time ever in a reality show, texted my vote to keep her in.

The thing is even if the public vote her the winner she won't get much work as a model because she has hips and isn't a perfect sample size, but hopefully she will get other work because she has a great personality, as well as being beautiful.