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Ribble Valley Council, voted eight to five to allow a former Methodist Church and factory to become Clitheroes first Mosque, the building will also be used as a 'community partnership centre'. Shersaz Arshad organised a march in support of the plans, after five refusals and criticism
from the Ombudsman. What will the majority of Clitheroe think of the pressure imposed on the council in coming to this decision?

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So thats another gold dome popping up then. :D

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I don't see the problem with it, seems like good news to me.

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Good news for some is bad news for others, I have no problem with it personally it's not in my back yard, they say they will not put a dome on the top or have the Mulla calling the faithful to prayer. They want the upstairs to become a 'multifaith' community centre, whatever that is.

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Would think the answer to that is easy. 'It' is a method of getting planning permission.

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Can't see what the fuss is about... Obviously needed in the community so...

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Was sent this to me today, here is a link:-

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Whilst it doesn't bother me at all, can understand that this is one of the last portals of what is quintessentially a true English market town and must be disturbing to the residents.

Must have been a very difficult decision for the council to make, they say the majority of people were against this and, yes, most objections would have been racial as on what other grounds would people object do you think ?? ... unless not enough room for parking all those Japanese cars !!

They had to take the easy option so as not to appear racist, .. but don't state on what grounds they allowed it either, 'cept community spirit and all that, and some form of income ???

I was brought up a Methodist, and whilst now I am not religious at all, would think that it would be a desecration of the former worshipping there, howeverat the end of the day, only bricks and mortar I suppose.

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It Probably is much needed, the only thing that disturbs me, is the way the media was harnessed to exert pressure on the council, in order to 'railroad' a favourable decision.

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was the church in use still or had it closed down?

as u say katex end of hte day it is bricks and motar. though i do think the bad thing will b the car parkin issue. its hard enough as it is... and as u saw with the turn outs at the riaz family funeral they can be quite extensive. so if a funeral was held there parkin wud b a nightmare on those days.

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You mean like the media was used to get a cinema in accy.. without the media it was like flogging a dead horse.... Didnt notice anyone complaining about that. You use whatever means is at your disposal and if that includes the media then use it..

Tell me Ianto.W ..if you wanted somehting to happen and the only way you could was to use the media.. would you? or would it dusturb you too much... I think we all know the answer :)

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some people need mosques but i wouldnt want one next to me ive seen how many cars turn up parking on teh grass and anywhere a car can fit at that mosque/ asian comuntity center off willows lane

personaly it aint my religion and i wouldnt want my life distrupting by people blocking roads etc at all hours of the day

if this mosque has been built in the asian comunity there then there shouldnt be a problem but if its been built eslewhere then their needs should have come second especialy with most against it

thats what is supposed to happen in a democracy , if most were against it then it shouldnt have been built and another location more central to the asian comunity should have been used

not racist , just plain comon sense ;)

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We've lost lots of chapels and churches to the bulldozer already, so if it means it is saved I think it doesn't matter what it's used for.

Infact it's quiet apt that it will be a place of worship, whilst all those 'christians' now go and spend Sunday worshipping at those temples of consumerism like the Trafford Centre, this will bring life to a beautiful building.

I do hope the integrity of the building is kept though, and it doesn't get a golden dome or turrets.

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parking at certain times apart,don,t really see what the beef is.;)

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Agree all ok with me, however, the link came with a tongue in cheek sub-title >>>>> 'Planning in Action', that's what it was all about really.

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You have just given me an idea Kipax, why not use the media to try to get the grant done on my property, after all Countess St, parts of Woodnook have had fortunes spent on them, i've only been waiting for 20years to no avail.

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regardless of built or not the result is a mosqu which has teh potential for problems for residents near by who have to live and put up with it

didnt say they shouldnt have a place to worship i said it shoudl be in tehir own area , if it is then no problem

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I am a tad suprised that a church was considered. I always thought they were somehow consicrated on virgin land the same way we used to do with churches. :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:

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Looks like I need some more education Willow. :o Never realised that this happened at all.

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I think for the Muslims that live in and around Clitheroe it is their own area.

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Atheist might feel they have to 'put up with' churches in their area :rolleyes: :D

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You are still all missing the point here .. was the 'obscure' planning permission that was the issue after at least eight submissions (I think) and pressures that were brought to 'persuade' a council to consent to this application.

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worship should be done at home i dont see why normal people should have their lives distrupted because the more guilable people feel they have to dedicate a portion of their lives to a non existing enitity

BAN ALL RELIGEION its all bollox anyway :mad:

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just a step further to taking a bit more of the community over IMHO.....Im with the opposed ....... sorry..

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golden domes?! *L*

this is clitheroe not saudi arabia

2ndly its a church - u'd b putting the whole thing into structurally unsound if u start altering the roof

finally everyones lookin at clitheroe as to what will happen

u dont need to look far - look how long that church on higher antley street (?) has been a mosque - i was a knee high kipper when that was made a mosque last i checked there was no domes or imam calls even if thats in a muslim populated area of accy all that i think has happened is that the front walls have been changed and a new lick of paint on the outside

look at the former social club thats a mosque now on blackburn rd (where the riaz funeral was held) thats undergone HUGE changes both internally and externally yet i still cant say that theres any golden domes.

yeah there are golden domes etc in blackburn - but those are purpose built ones

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would there be this much fuss if they had opened a curry house instead :D

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what's the problem ?
everyone has a right to practice their own faith so why not the muslims
i can understand certain concerns such as the parking issue and whether or not a great golden dome will be erected but as far as i can see as long as whatever building work they do is not out of character with the rest of the area and they don't go hollering from the rooftops at all hours of the day then why not supply the muslim community with a place of worship.
I doubt there would have been this much fuss if a new christian church was to be built instead. although i do wonder how much in government grants they have been given to build it

i know some people have accused me in the past of being a narrow minded racist but this is not the case as long as people are prepared to live alongside us british,abide by the laws of this land and not abuse the system
then its fine by me.

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Isnt there any chance of it being used for both religions?

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The Methodists don't want it, they have another chapel.

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Im not up on my religion so correct me if i am talking shi7 but if they have a new one then why the fuss?

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i dont see what is wrong with building a mosque and domes. after all domes are a traditional architecural feature of churches eg st pauls in london and the former church st sophias in istanbul. as long as it is in keeping with the materials of the local area i cant see why domes are considered tacky or someting. anyway landscapes are always changing with new influences otherwise we wouldnt have churches

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You are the only one that 'got' the reason for my raising the subject katex, I care not if it is a mosque or otherwise. The granting of planning permission must follow a laid down set of rules, and should not be subjected to undue outside pressures.

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I take it you are referring to the Mormon Temple Willow, yes it is a truly remarkably beautiful building it must have cost a kings ransome to errect.

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Without us knowing the ins and outs of the planning application, basically it's a change of use, from one religion to another.

Like I said earlier as long as the integrity of the building isn't changed, good luck to 'em, as long as it's not another McDonalds.

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was it subjected to outside pressure ianto.w.? i sure dont know.

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You and me neither, give us facts.

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I admit Clitheroe Council made it quite obvious that they were not keen on a mosque, so I suppose the Ombubsmans criticisms and as I said the harnessing of the media tv etc was fully justified. This was not a personal view on this subject, the thread was only raised to provoke a debate.:confused:

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i agree with the above user who said the mormon temple is just a sight to see

first time i saw it i was like WOAH!! i actually slowed down the car to have a good look at it...

recently i had the chance to go to chorley to look at a spar store i was thinking of buying and i actually drove closer on the way back so i could have a look at it

someday i'm gonna go inside to have a look. its an amazing sight. the one in atlanta city is meant to b even better right willow? glass building and all that nah?

not being biased but mecca is an awesome size and design. at night its just stunning the wya they've done the lighting.

sayin that thought the basilica in venice is really nice at night. its a shame they only open about two weeks a year for visitors to go inside and i didnt get the chance.

i'd love to see the church where the michealanglo roof painting is.

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Yep , got to agree with you, impressive , I used to take the shortcut (avoiding the much longer 'Christian by-pass' ) thru Mecca when driving from Jeddah to Taif when I lived in Saudi during the 80s, only did it during nightime hours when the guards/mutawas were usually asleep , I used to stop at one store to buy burial shrouds for my Mums neighbours in Gt.Harwood, still have some beads from Mecca hanging from my rear view mirror. The place was scary when the rebels took over the Kabba in 80/81 and the French Foriegn Legion came in to clear them out . Would be interesting to know if they had any link to the presant day Taliban , I know Bin Ladens old man did a lot of construction work around the Kabba .

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Short but Sweet.If you don't agree,You are not Tolerant,& if you do, they will think your nuts,because after the Mosque goe's up your loveley little town will never be the same,& your little Council will pay big time, By you,But to late. Church Boy.

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I don't might churches, no matter what religion they are, it's the parking outside them issue that annoys me. People just dump cars anywhere they can at a couple of churches near me. You never see the Police issuing tickets for obstructing the road and pavement. Saying that there are two churches local to me with a car park, the Hope Centre and the one on Heys Lane.

That's a big assumption Busman. What makes you think that Clitheroe Christians are snobbish and racist, or for that mater that Clitheroes racist snobs are Christian?

Thats true Gary, sounds like people jumping on the band wagon without knowing the full story too me. Where abouts is this Church anyway?

I can understand the bit about Americans :D

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I can understand the bit about Americans :D[/quote]

That's a racist remark in itself,Hope they never have to save you,because I don't think you would Quote that one to them.Church Boy.

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[QUOTE=Neil;356100]
"That's a big assumption Busman. What makes you think that Clitheroe Christians are snobbish and racist, or for that mater that Clitheroes racist snobs are Christian?"

Yes Neil, it IS an assumption but are based on the few facts so far given in this thread. As this will be the first Mosque in Clitheroe, I think that it is fairly safe to assume that there is a small but growing population of Muslims in the area therefore (another assumption) the vast majority are therefore Christian or Athiests with a small sprinkling of Jewish, Hindu etc. Maybe you know of a religious sect that I am unaware of that is thriving in Clitheroe Neil? If so, please tell. :eek:

As for them being snobbish or racist, I made the comment that I would like to see details of complaints against the granting of planning permission to see what grounds they are complaining about. With the exception of the parking issue, I find it hard to think of any other reason to reject the application for such an important building such as this. Had it been a Waitrose supermarket, I am sure that both the council and the residents would have welcomed it unreservedly.

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ripping our churches down to replace them with mosques is terrible idea

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The church isn't being knocked down.

I know of three Methodist chapels that have been demolished in Oswaldtwistle alone, because of the dwindling numbers of people attending church.

At least this fine building will be saved from a similar fate.

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Obviously very worrying for a faithful Christian churchgoer like yourself.

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I would not class it as small.


There is a Kingdom Hall behind the Civic Theatre, Is that secty enough for you?

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If the churches buildings are sold by the denominations in question because they don't have the congregations to fill them what do you suggest should be done with the building? Some are converted to private residences. Some actually make really interesting houses. Bigger ones sometimes become flats. They can't continue to be churches if people don't attend them.

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Once a church/chapel has outlived it's usefulness, it becomes just another empty shell of a building. This ex chapel has already been used as a factory, no doubt it will have a conservation type order on it. These buildings were built in a time of non or very little traffic of the type we ourselves are familar with. I take it there is no graves to consider and the building was de-consecrated, if the people of Clitheroe did not want a Mosque in their midst maybe they should have bought the building themselves.

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this is what i was talkin about - the night image of mecca

http://www.independent.co.uk/multime...06_240148a.jpg

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I wonder why there is no mosques in ossy?

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cause u have two large mosques in accrington to which they come

plus there isnt a large muslim population there so the ppl that do live in those area's accept they have to drive to these other two.

accrington muslims in general seemed to have accepted that the two main mosques we have are sufficient and that if any more are opened it wudnt be worthwhile and would cause differences between the denominations as there was b4

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I've changed my mind. Knock the chapel down and build this in Clitheroe, as long as they sort the parking out.:D

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why???????????????????:eek:

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It's all shiney.:D

(Plus it'll p*ss off all the blue set Tories in the Ribble Valley.:D)

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Probably because the locals still eat their young

:D :D :D

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:confused:

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apparently with 3 million people there its an wierd feelin when its prayer time - all the hustle bustle comes to a stand still and for 10-15 mins it goes deathly quiet

and dont worry about the parkin garinda - we can pretend we're saudi "clitheroe" arabia and ban all cars comin into the place - buses and private jets only.

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Mani have you been on Hajj to Mecca yet?

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alas i havent

all my family have bar me - i'm the black *non-racist* sheep of the family

a few of my mates have or are there now

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I watched the Channel 4 series the other year, were they followed about five Brits going on Hajj. Fascinating.

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hmmmm

takes alot of commitment and dedication. its also a case of a being prepared mentally for something like this.

first or second time my mom and dad went - there was a huge fire there in the tent area's and for ages we didnt know about their wellbeing...

there's jsut so many people goin there the risks are huge.

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Every year there seems to be terrible accidents because of the huge numbers attending.

When you go, take care and we want a full report.:)

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*L*

i'm gonna invest in a top notch camera and jsut take pic after pic...

one of my friends is gone there at the mo and he's doin that

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Here in New Jersey, we would not even consider that a change in use. Just a change in ownership. There would be no legal reason whatsoever to prevent the takeover of a place of worship by another religion.

In our cities here, there are a number of churches and synagogues that have been convertd to mosques, as the local community has changed.

I'm all for more great pubs in the UK, fewer McDs.

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IT would certainly become a tourist attraction!;)

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Well said, that man! :cool:

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Heck, if the pubs could only get their act together and become 10% as numerous over here as McDs are in the UK, I'd be one happy camper!

Then again, I'n not sure that a hand pumped ale in an American 16 ounce pint, served by a gum-chewing young thing with a Brooklyn accent and attitude, would get the job done. Probably would expect/demand tips, as well! Better than nothing, perhaps, but I prefer a good pub, the real item, in its native locale!

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To be fair, Billcat, you do have some cracking bars here and there. I've spent many a happy hour in the Lennox Lounge in Harlem and then there was some Irish bar in Astoria whose name I forget.

As you say though, there's nowt quite like a British pub, and I'm off to one right now!...

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And I really like The Quiet Man in Dover, NJ, but it's not the same thing at all. And I will have to take Pendy to the bar at the Algonquin, assuming that she is able to persuade David to come for a visit!

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jsut out of curiosity how can your family stop you ?

cant you just buy a ticket and go on your own ?

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another synagogue of satan in lancs! islam is not a religion, its a cult, started by a man riding on the back of a torah derived angel
called gabriel... which is hypocritical really isnt it, when you consider that
to practise christianity in islam is punishable by be-heading, yet they can do what they like here. by catering to the whims of islam you are digging the graves of your offspring. when you consider the history of islam from
the destruction of the holy sepulcre, the building of the "dome" over yahweh,s (the christian god) temple, the derogatory writings of the koran
which portrays god as evil, to the genicidal behaviour of its leader once given authority and power, it is completely safe to assume that it is not a good thing. sure, i want to live in peace too, but ive done a lot of research into this, thanks to the people who beheaded me, the same people who given the opportunity would behead you too, and i can only
conclude that: Evolution is the god of creation ..... democracy is Hypocracy... and religion is full of fraudulent prophets and teachings.
There will never ever be peace on earth while islam
exists, enoch powell was more of a prophet than that blasphemer of christ, if you take the
time and trouble to read the koran you will conclude the same...
here is a small clip of info i bet you never knew and wont find in the papers, is it any
wonder they dont want you to know the truth?
vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv
Having destroyed the "religion" of Islam in Mecca, Muhammad created the political doctrine of "submission" in Medina. He became a pirate, dictator, and terrorist leader. He used Qur’anic scripture to justify some of the most horrific behavior imaginable: pedophilia, incest, rape, torture, assassinations, thievery, mass murder, and terror - all in an unbridled orgy of sex, power, and money. Again, this summation simply reflects the portrayal documented in the Islamic Sunnah and confirmed in the Qur’an.
When he was fifty, Muhammad married a six-year-old child. Then he stole his son’s wife. After forcing young girls to watch his men execute their fathers, Muhammad raped them. He tortured his victims to make sure no booty escaped his grasp. He committed mass murder, slaughtering Jews in genocidal rage. In ten years, he ordered a score of assassinations and conducted seventy-five terrorist raids. He used the sword to force Arabs into submission and used the slave trade to finance Islam. He was more interested in collecting girls and taxes than anything else. He ruled through fear. And his god condoned it all.
Qur’anic revelation. It says, in essence, "My god is better than your god because my god didn't need to rest." But that’s a problem. The "Gods" are supposed to be the same. And the Bible tells us that only one spirit thought he was better than Yahweh - the fallen angel LUCIFER <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
.....The worst thing the pope could have done was to apologise for telling the truth, it will
cost the world very dearly for giving in to tyrants demands..........
for those who are more inquisitive, heres a link to the real agenda of islam........
> http://www.prophetofdoom.net/chapter.aspx?g=401&i=41003 <

Take note i am expressing an opinion (without oppression) which is derived
from the >truth< of knowledge and facts that cannot be denied, therefore i make no apologies to anyone who cant hack it.........

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You've been beheaded and yet you still manage to post on AccyWeb :confused:

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the real michael revels the sort of uninformed hateful malarkey that, when used by either side, just makes the situation far, far worse.

A strong suggeston to the real michael - spend a lot more time editing yhour posts. That last one is a real mess, logically, factually and gramatically!

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Another load of twaddle from St. Michael's...still he does make exceedingly good undies.:D

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I was going to print it for the 'crack' but my new Lexmark all in one printer etc, warned me to order five cartridges of ink before even attempting, apparantly it must have been here before Allah.:D

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Was thinking that myself.:confused:

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Yeah, Mike's a little over the top. However, Islam does not appear to be a very tolerant religion. Yes, I know there are lots of very decent Muslims who have moved beyond its founding and tenets. Even so, there's some odd behavior. An in-law of mine is dating a Muslim. I haven't met him yet but I hear that he's a very nice guy. In-law's grandfather is in the hospital at the moment - but it's a Catholic hospital and they have some, (gasp), crucifixes on the walls. So, Najib won't go in there to visit gramps. Like he's a vampire or something? I have doubts that this relationship is going to work out.

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, One sure way to find out 'barb' check Najibs teeth out.

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I wonder if that works for town's ;)

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Seems strange , our local emergency room at St.Rose Hospital has no problem with the local Afghani and other Muslim boy racers who turn up every weekend after wrapping their high performance cars around lamp posts. there have been no reports of any of them demanding to be taken to County General in Oakland and having to wait in line with the gang bangers ;) ;)

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There are also ignorant and potentially dangerous fanatics in very religion. Christians who think killing doctors and nurses who work in abortion clinics is justified, for example.

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Well , a lot of folks do think abortion is murder, and I wouldn't call them fanatics or ignorant

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Actually, Islam can be very tolerant indeed. It is a basic value of the religion. Unfortunately, in almost any religion there can be found some extremists who think that they have the God-given right to decide what everyone should be doing. (As Monty Python so wisely observed, "No one expects the Spanish Inquistion!")

Here is an interesting link: http://www.cyberistan.org/islamic/toleran1.html

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If they kill doctors or nurses, they are clearly fanatics.

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My little boy came home today from school with a letter. It says they are visiting the local mosque next week. The letter stated



DEAR PARENT

Your child will be visiting the local mosque next week. We will be walking to and from the mosque from school. Please could you ensure that your child is wearing warm coat as the weather as been cold recently ( YEAH NO SH!T).

And please could you send your child with a hat or scarf to cover their head with while in the mosque for religious purposes.

HMMMMMMM well I won't tell you what Ginger said because this thread would be moved to the over 18's section.

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What's wrong with being respectful when visiting someone's place of worship? Nothing - indeed, it is the proper thing to do! It teaches us to respect others, which is a value that the world could use a lot more of. When I visit a Jewish friend's temple for a service, I always show respect by wearing a yarmulke. When visiting a mosque, I gladly remove my shoes. When I visit the wonderful cathedrals in the UK, I am careful to be respectful of any church I enter, especially if there is a service in progress. It is the respectful and courteous thing to do.

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just out of curiosity , do the non christian children who attend Church schools go to Christmas and Harvest festivals held in the attached churchs ? or is that classed as proslytising

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There you go!!! visiting these places is YOUR choice......

I mean EXCUSE me I think I may have sent my child to a Church of England school. I'm not racist or against any religion! BUT do we as parents and the children have a right to say if we wish our children to enter a mosque??

Because if we have a choice.....I don't actually remember signing anything to say I agree to my child taking part in this.

You as a adult Billcat had the choice.

I actually Find my children's school which IS church of England is actually catering more and more for Muslim faiths than for church of England pupils.

The St.Peters church which is part of my childrens school has been under renovation for month's now!! my children are NOT attending a church at the moment because of this!!!

Yet I am finding the amount of trips to the mosques are getting more and more!!!!! WHY?? that isn't my childrens religion

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Well it would be nice if my children could go to a festival or harvest or even a nativity play in their own church....BUT like I just pointed out!!! the church has been a no go area for the past 2 years nativity for the children.

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Bad assumption, slinky. I have the choice now, true. BUT - when I was younger, I did not have that choice. It was part of my education and, frankly, it was pretty interesting! I also was invited many times to celebrate the Jewish sabbath as the home of friends and attended B'Nai Brith Temple for various holidays and the Bar Mitzvahs of my childhood buddies - and my friends were invited to our celebrations. My parents and my friends' parents thought that knowing about the other guys' religion was a good idea.

Also went to Russian Orthodox Easter services, discussed the Bible with other friends who claim a literal belief, went to midnight Mass with Catholic friends, attended the reconsecraton of a Tibetan temple here in NJ (done by the Dalai Lama), served as best man as wedding ceremonies in both Catholic and Presbyterian ceremonies, helped work on the restoration of the Friends (Quaker) Meeting House, discussed Mormon beliefs with other friends, and learned a lot along the way. As religion plays an important role in society, knowing a bit about it has been useful and interesting. Apart from my fundamentalist Christian friends, never felt that anyone was trying to get me to sign up for their beliefs.

Probably the most important part of that education was that if I expected to receive respect, then I had better be prepared to start the ball rolling by showing respect.

As far as your kids visiting a mosque, I am sure that if it is done properly, they'll learn a lot about the religion of others in their community.

Now a question - if your church is unable to do the Christmas nativity play, why don't you ask your pastor if arrangements can be made the local children to particpate in another parish's celebration? Just had another thought...when I was about five years old, we had a major fire in my church. While our church was being rebuilt, B'nai Brith welcomed us to use their temple for our services. Perhaps there is some other local house of worship which might be willing to let your congregation use their building for the nativity?

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Well as far as I'm aware the school aren't doing very much in the way of it's own religion at the moment. That was my point, the children of this school have visited the mosque approx 3 times in a 12 month period - where as they haven't step foot in their own school church for 2 years.. I might be wrong but something isn't quite right here is it.

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It's because the schools in areas like ours where you have a lot of Asians, the PC Brigade and Head Teachers owe their jobs to the School Goveners and the like, and if you notice the Asians are pretty active in this department, whilst we Gentiles are a bit apathetic and let someone else do it, what we need to do is get more involved at this level ,where school policy is decided, and get our schools back, or our kids will be praying 5 times a day at school.
This is my own personal opinion if it offends anyone ,tough luck.