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***Mr D*** 06-01-2007 15:11
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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 362128)
I'm not sure that's a good idea. If the number of parent dogs is severely limited you're going to get a lot of "in breeding" which can lead to temperament problems which could result in more incidents of aggression against people and more injuries and deaths. Also they reckon that mongrel mutts can be the best natured dogs.
True 'in breeding' would also cause problems to the dogs health.

I have yet to see any information to say mongrel mutts are the best natured as 'mongrel' could mean a mix of anything.

WillowTheWhisp 06-01-2007 15:16
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I think the theory is just because they are totally opposite to inbred.

garinda 06-01-2007 15:19
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Originally Posted by ***Mr D*** (Post 362134)
True 'in breeding' would also cause problems to the dogs health.

I have yet to see any information to say mongrel mutts are the best natured as 'mongrel' could mean a mix of anything.

I think the 'bunny' on your signature has been interbred too.

It looks like it was crossed with an owl.:D

West Ender 06-01-2007 15:23
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There's no reason why a good natured, attractive mongrel shouldn't be registered as a stud dog. I'm not talking elitist, just precautionary, I've had several wonderful mongrels including my last, much-loved one. But would you have the present situation where any un-neutered dog can roam around and impregnate any bitch in season that it finds? It leads to unwanted puppies and uncared-for dogs and it leaves the field open to breeding the "wrong sort".

WillowTheWhisp 06-01-2007 15:26
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Now we're getting to the actual problem which is the "roaming around and impregnating any bitch in season" - instead of compulsory neutering of all dogs we should perhaps have compulsory neutering of any dog found wandering loose and fines for people who permit their dogs to do so. So what we need are more (effective) dog wardens. That goes for wandering dogs of the male or female variety.

garinda 06-01-2007 15:31
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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 362152)
Now we're getting to the actual problem which is the "roaming around and impregnating any bitch in season" - instead of compulsory neutering of all dogs we should perhaps have compulsory neutering of any dog found wandering loose and fines for people who permit their dogs to do so. So what we need are more (effective) dog wardens.


...and I think licenced dogs.

I read that it averages up to £23,000 to care and feed a dog properly over it's lifetime.

A licence costing say £500 would help may for more infrastructure to police the people who are abusing the system, and help protect the animals themselves.

***Mr D*** 06-01-2007 15:33
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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 362144)
I think the 'bunny' on your signature has been interbred too.

It looks like it was crossed with an owl.:D
He's an Evil Bunny.:D Pure bread for Evil.

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 362152)
Now we're getting to the actual problem which is the "roaming around and impregnating any bitch in season" - instead of compulsory neutering of all dogs we should perhaps have compulsory neutering of any dog found wandering loose and fines for people who permit their dogs to do so. So what we need are more (effective) dog wardens. That goes for wandering dogs of the male or female variety.
It isnt that easy to breed dogs, the bitch would have to be ready to accept 'tye' with the male. odds wise it would be low.

I feel the laws should be tighter than the for anyone who dog is left to wander the street. these dogs are a danger to society, bot just they could bite someone, they could also cause a road accident.

If someone left there dog to 'Roam' they shouldnt have a dog.

WillowTheWhisp 06-01-2007 15:48
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It isnt that easy to breed dogs, the bitch would have to be ready to accept 'tye' with the male. odds wise it would be low.
Well there are plenty that don't miind practicing.

***Mr D*** 06-01-2007 15:54
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Well there are plenty that don't mind practicing.
Just like humans.:D

West Ender 06-01-2007 16:00
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I'm with you all on the wandering, it's the un-neutered breeds, half-breeds etc. that are unregistered - that's what worries me.

Hypothesis. - I have a very aggressive, potentially savage dog. I keep the dog off the streets and he's under my control for legal purposes but I make sure he isn't "soft". He's not neutered but that's OK, it's quite legal. My mate has a similar bitch and we decide to breed from this pair. We get 8 puppies and we sell them to like-minded people. Everyone brings up the pups like we've brought up the parents - off the streets but brought up "hard". Hey! We've got a dog-fighting ring.

Isn't this the scenario we've already got?

WillowTheWhisp 06-01-2007 16:10
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Yes it is - but if you make neutering compulsory do you think these guys are going to neuter their dogs? Dog fighting is already illegal so breaking another law isn't going to worry them - it's only the innocent and harmless who will comply.

It's like banning somebody from driving when they've been convicted of driving without a licence.

garinda 06-01-2007 16:21
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In the interest of fairness, I've just come across this site about fatalities involving various breeds of dogs other than Pit Bulls.

http://www.workingpitbull.com/fatalbook.htm

***Mr D*** 06-01-2007 16:29
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In the interest of fairness, I've just come across this site about fatalities involving various breeds of dogs other than Pit Bulls.

http://www.workingpitbull.com/fatalbook.htm
Thats been my point ALL dogs should be treated equally as they can all be dangerous and potential killers.

Another Bite list and a good information site.

http://www.understand-a-bull.com/BSL...llDogsBite.htm

garinda 06-01-2007 16:33
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Originally Posted by ***Mr D*** (Post 362226)
Thats been my point ALL dogs should be treated equally as they can all be dangerous and potential killers.

If you care to back read, I've never disagreed with that. Though attention has been drawn to one particular illegal breed, that is sadly being used by the lowest members of society as a status symbol, and enjoying it's associated reputation.

armani 09-01-2007 12:49
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdY9Z...elated&search= its the owners that want shooting any animal can be trained to be aggresive if it is treated like these animals are treated to make them fight obviously this ideot had trained this dog to be aggressive to protect his drugs and money he probably owned a gun like most drug dealers do i think the police want to bother about sorting these out rather than looking for harmless dogs. there are still a rediculous amount of drug dealers around many more than there are pit bulls

***Mr D*** 09-01-2007 15:38
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Originally Posted by armani (Post 364184)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdY9Z...elated&search= its the owners that want shooting any animal can be trained to be aggresive if it is treated like these animals are treated to make them fight obviously this ideot had trained this dog to be aggressive to protect his drugs and money he probably owned a gun like most drug dealers do i think the police want to bother about sorting these out rather than looking for harmless dogs. there are still a rediculous amount of drug dealers around many more than there are pit bulls
Posted that video link earlier, its a good one, music is the key.;)

If anyone wants to read the Full stories behind the video.

http://www.understand-a-bull.com/Her...oicPitties.htm

chav1 09-01-2007 15:51
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lets just kill every single dog and cat on the planet then as well as our kids been safe from bites and blindness caused by their sh1t we can all walk down teh street at night and not have to wory about stepping in these filthy animals droppings

while were at it lets get rid of girrafes as well , you cant trust anyone with a neck that long :)

garinda 09-01-2007 15:54
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Originally Posted by chav1 (Post 364310)
lets just kill every single dog and cat on the planet then as well as our kids been safe from bites and blindness caused by their sh1t we can all walk down teh street at night and not have to wory about stepping in these filthy animals droppings

while were at it lets get rid of girrafes as well , you cant trust anyone with a neck that long :)
You might still get pecked by a bird.:D

http://www.moma.org/exhibitions/1999...gifs/birds.jpg

armani 09-01-2007 20:38
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try being kicked by a horse lol


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