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Tonights Telegraph says Music Zone in Accy & Burnley are to go into administration,the commpany who owns them are looking to sell as a going concern with no immediate redundancies.Challenging trading conditions are to blame.Don't know about Burnley but it's the only decent music store we have in Accy,and to lose it would be a great loss to all music lovers in the area.Woolies does mainly chart stuff & does some offers but you can pick up some long lost oldies at bargain prices at MZ,plus many more different catorgaries of music.So come on,lets do uor bit to keep it open(whatever that might be)

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Oh no!! It can't close down. Always buy my chart Cd's & Dvd's from Asda. Coz its cheaper. But I have quite strange taste in music & films, so its good for the obscure stuff, including the rare Hed Khandi stuff. If it shuts down then i'll have to go to HMV which I really dont want to do, as its expensive.

Looks like i'll be shopping online in future then.

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Little Chef also went in to administration yesterday

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Knew about this Lancsdave,but feel i have a lot more in common with MZ than the famous roadside eaterie.Hope this isnt going to be a commonplace thing throughout 2007,after all we're only 4 days in:(

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It probably will be though, with the increase of internet shopping.

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Hang on a minute while I order my Olympian Breakfast from Little Chef Online :rolleyes: :D

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Lol. I was also going to put in the post that soon enough you'll be able to order food (not in the asda/tesco delivery sense!!)

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Hang on just been looking on the pizza hut website and they have a delivery menu online!! Yippeeeee!!!! I never have to leave the house again.

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The manager of Music Zone is a member on here.

I hope it's not true.

It'll be another nail in the Accy coffin if it is.

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Its ok Garinda, it leaves an empty space ready for another Pound Shop.

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...but at least the council are building even more new shops up near the council offices, if the charity/pound shops want to expand.

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Well space will be needed to move the ladies dress shop from where the new bus station will be built :rolleyes:

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PMSL.

Britcliffe Maison de Mode is moving?

You do move in exalted circles now.:D

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Erm not quite. I must come to the next meet so I can fill you in. In an information way of course :D

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so once a company does go into administration

what does it mean? its gonna close down?

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yeah the company closes down and all the stuff thats left gets sold cheap-only reason why i have a computer at the moment is cos a company called dugdale davies went bust last year and they auctioned all there stuff off-got my comp,a printer and loads of cartridges for £20 altogether :)
its sad, its happening alot now.i know loads of people who were made redundant for this reason.Its mainly because its so much cheaper to get stuff produced abroad then shipped over here.

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so there's gonna b some cheap dvd's goin eh?

i feel sorry for the staff

on a different note - i drove past glynwebb and they're reopening apparently after a store refit

or its gonna b a totally differnt store

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When I was in town on Wednesday Music Zone was closed with a sign on the door saying 'Closed due to technical problems' then in the LET it said about the chain going into administration but that they were looking for a buyer & the shops would remain open for the time being. Really hope it doesn't go out of business.

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You might laugh but you can order Dominoes pizzas online!

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You can order pizza/kebabs online locally (Abbey Street)

www.santaspizza.com

haven't tried it yet but its free delivery over £7 as well

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My mate was in MZ this morning & said the sale was even better than the ones they usually have:) Problem for me is i'm flat broke after Crimbo:(

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It would be a real shame to see this shop go, we have very few decent shops in Accy.

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Afraid it's all true folks;yet more classic mis-management from on high that will probably see our 4 full timers and 2 part timers out of a job by the end of the month. The administrators are looking for a buyer,and to be honest the Accy shop has a decent chance of finding one as we actually make money here! But having been in the same boat just 3 years ago when the same thing happened to Our Price I am not being too optimistic and have just been working on my cv. It's really sad as we had a great Christmas and actually would have won a flatscreen tv and £500 for our efforts if this hadn't just happened. 3 of us in the store have will have been made redundant twice in 3 years if it all goes down the pan.
Needless to say if anyone else tells me to "cheer up" in the shop I will not be responsible for my actions!
(and to top all , the child's rabbit died on Thursday!):eek:

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So you won't support it when you buy chart stuff but want it there for the eclectic stuff. and you wonder why its shutting down???

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whats wrong with that...different folks, different tastes...the world would be a boring place if we all had the same tastes in music etc....
one mans meat and all that...

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I think you've mis understood my post. I said that they wouldn't buy the chart stuff there because ASDA is a bit cheaper yet they winge when the shop closes so they can't buy their 'obscure' stuff. I'm quite happy that people listen to 'different' music. I'm a big fan of a massive range of music myself

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Lindsay,i'll support you & your staff all the way,you do the music loving people of Accy a great service.But if the **** does hit the fan can you stick me an Editors t-shirt under the counter:eek: Only jokinng,all the best.P.S.....Large please:D

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I wouldn't dare tell you to cheer up now Lindsay, but just take comfort in the fact if they don't get a buyer, someone with your considerable skills should be bloody well snapped up straight away by some other company.:)

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EAR'hear,but go it alone Lynds,get a business loan or whatever,the townsfolk need a music outlet like i know you want to be involved in,and you know the town wants it.Gis a job:) :)

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Good idea.

Put your sugar Daddy in a soap, and start up your own business with the dosh.

(I nearly said there could be a whole chain across the northwest of 'Lindsay's 12" Speciality' shops, forgetting of course that it's all cds and downloads now.):D

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curiously

how much would they be wantin fo the shop? would you know that lindsey?

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the shops probably rented from HBC mani

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Not a clue how much the rent is Mani;I think half the problem with this chain is that the manager never really had "ownership" of the store;you never saw your profit and loss,your overheads etc,if I had that kind of info I might have seen it coming! Maxwell,the Editors t shirts have already gone-shipped back to Warehouse ,presumably they were Sale or return and the Administrators wanted the cash back! The issue of people buying from the supermarkets has certainly had an effect;just to give you an example,Asda were selling Pirates of the Caribbean 2 dvd at £8.97 just before Xmas,that was nearly £5 cheaper than we were buying it at from our suppliers! So in the long run it's the supermarkets to blame I think; when customers ask me why it £3 cheaper at Tesco I just say we don't sell mushrooms or greetings cards which carry huge mark ups;and you could try getting a member of staff at one of the supermarkets to answer a music or film related question and see how far you get.We tried to be competitive and to be honest we are better than HMV but it's the same old story,sadly it's like history repeating itself,the Our Price here made money and was well used but that wasn't enough to save us;I am looking for a career change now,retail just isn't a safe bet any more.
Thanks to all of you guys who shopped with us;I reckon we may have another fortnight of hanging on with ever depleting stock!

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Very sad news Lindsay.
Most of my music collection is from Music Zone and bought at great value.
I never buy chart stuff so that was never an issue, Music Zone is the only music store in town that has a proper music library and I will miss it greatly.
All the best for your career aswell.

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Lyndsay,i'm very sorry it's looking so bleak & i wish you & the staff all the very best for the future.I'll say so myself if i call in.Now i don't want to appear like a vulture waiting for scraps after my Editors t-shirt request,but Queens "sheer heart attack",it was in the 2 for atenner sale not long ago,& now its £9.97,can you put it back to the sale price in one last act of rebellion against those corporate whores who sold you out.Will the helpme@musiczone website still be going,for the titles you do'nt stock

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Will have a look if we still have the Queen cd for you! Think the website is still going at the moment but it's only stuff that's in stock at the warehouse...suppliers seem a little reticent in letting us have anything at the moment!:rolleyes:
Thanks again for your support on here everyone,I will pass it on at work tomorrow.

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I think it's a damn shame that Music Zone will be closing with the loss of four full time and two part time jobs when anyone who shopped there knows it's a damn fine shop with helpful and knowledgeable staff. I for one will sorely miss it.

BTW if anyone wants badly photocopied bootlegged (cd burnt) copy of a chart album I hear Custard Cube in the Market Hall is knocking them off at three quid a pop. AND YOU STILL THINK IT'S A MYSTERY WHY MUSIC ZONE ARE CLOSING??????????????????

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Why not pass that information on to Trading Standards ?

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yep, if he is then he needs reporting. Its peoples jobs/careers/lives he's messing with

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I will, tomorrow. Keep you posted with developments.

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Unfortunately Willow you tend to need a big catchment area for that type of shop hence they tend to be in cities like Manchester rather than towns like Accy.

Either that or teh owner is running it as a hobby and doesn't need it to make money.

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Thw one shop that seems to have found it's niche, and has been there for over thirty years, is the sex shop!

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No comment.

I shall leave another comic to play the straight man to that line.:D

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As Julian Clary always likes to say " I do like a warm hand on my entrance" or maybe it refered to the jailer in Monty Python's Life of Brian who said "We've got lumps of it round the back"

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I hear the "new" shop opening in market way opposite "cash generator" is going to be yet another charity shop. If so how come a so called charity shop afford the rent and rates. By the way these shops are owned by a private company and only the business rates are set by the council. The council sold the land when they knocked down the old market.

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Well here some news gleaned from the tight lips of the administrators;all bids for the Music Zone chain have to be in by this Saturday so we should know if we have a buyer or not by early next week.Fingers crossed as the job market doesn't look like an appealing place at the moment!:o

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i can only recall 2 sex shops in accy , one on blackburn road and one on kings street i think it is where the observer used to be based

teh latter if you look through the letter box says peep on it when you look through lol

i know this because i used to deliver papers to it but never got so much as a dirty mag for a christmas tip :mad:

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Fingers crossed for you and the rest of the staff. And for us inhabitants of Accy too. :(

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I nipped in the other day and noticed Back to the Future Trilogy for £12 odd, I thought oww that's cheap, took it to the counter it wasn't £12 odd like it was marked up, it was actually £19 odd.

Made mthead chuckle though when I said it's the best way to make it look like you have a sale on, mark all the products wrong and only tell the customer when they get to the till ;)

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Tinks,don't know wether you bought it or not but i'd have kicked up a bit of a stink if i went to buy something at the marked price then found they wanted more at the counter.Thats just not on.

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Isn't there some sort of rule about selling things at the advertised price? :confused:

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I know and if I was on my own I would have done but mthead doesn't like things like that, He won't even let me barter prices :( I didn't want to traumatise him to much ;)

Yes I did buy it, it's still not that bad. All 3 films and a bonus disc for just under £20

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Out of curiosity does anyone ever watch these bonus discs with all the extras on:confused: I know i dont,got the Terminator set with all the making of bits on,it would have taken a month to watch it all:eek: Just give me the film,no frills thank you

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LOL! No I never watch them.

Although .... I do have a number of music DVD's with bonus discs were the band are giving interviews, I do sit through those.

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Thats another one,music dvd's.I have several,but watch them once & they're stashed away,whereas the album/cd i'll play over & over again.I suppose it's like the live gig it's a one/off experience.

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Hmmm, I have to say that I have my favourite music DVD's that are watched regularly, at least once a week. I usually put them on at weekends when I'm on the pc, it's background music and something to watch when it's quiet on accyweb :)

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Fair enough, i just don't share your'e enthusiasm for them.The music alone will do me,without the visuals:)

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LOL... im devastated for your ungiving tip lol.

I ust to do a paper round but quit just 1 week before xmas tips :confused: - something i still dont get about me !! lol

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Legally a retailer can sell at any price they want, regardless of what a product is marked at.

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BA*****S:mad:

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So is it just an urban myth that the retailer has to honour the price if that's what it's marked up as, even if it was a mistake?

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Afraid so.

Anyone planning to peel off the price off a tin of beans, and stick it on a top of the range flat screen telly, you have been warned.:D

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'What if something is marked with the wrong price?
If something is wrongly marked with a lower price, you can’t insist on buying it at that price. The law says that a retailer can refuse to sell anything to you, at any price, without giving a reason. But if a retailer sells you something at too low a price by mistake, they can’t later make you pay the extra, unless they can show you knew the price was wrong.'

http://www.clsdirect.org.uk/legalhel...tion=4&lang=en

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Bloody hell so that means retailers can make ridiculous claims in order to get custom or sale only to find out different at the counter & some people end up buying to save face. Same thing happened in woolies a marked down price then upon scanning was higher & i told them to get stuffed if they aint selling it at the marked price & a lecture loud enough to boot then walk out to get it elsewhere!!

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It works both ways though. If they charge you less for something, say ringing into the till or credit card machine £1.99 instead of £199.00 for a telly, they can't legally charge you the difference afterwards.

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OK, but not many cashiers are so ready to lose their jobs,as no doubt they would for an error like that(i know it's only an example).Does it mean that those who mark up lower & sell at an higher price get promoted:confused: Should be a case for trading standards if you ask me.

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Errors like that happen every day.

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Trading standards will quite happily back the retailer,we can withdraw an item from sale at any time if it has been priced up wrong.The main issue is people swapping the prices;it happens a lot.If it's a genuine mistake by us and only a couple of quid I will usually override the price to whats on the packaging but if it's more I have to refuse the sale.Mistakes happen,especially over the Xmas period with temps in and I am sure most are mistakes.
Either way it's nice to have our priorities right here;a few quid on a dvd or the jobs of 6 staff and your only music store down the pan. The administrators closed 31 of our stores yesterday including Bolton and Oldham,I have no doubt we will be on the next closure list.
So to the saddos who keep asking me "when do you shut ?" and the t*t who said today "so your shutting down,that's cool" me and my team say...GET A LIFE! Stop whining at us that you will have to go to Blackburn now;it's not our fault! By the way my redundancy will be less than a months wage.:mad:

(rant over ,more beer required :rolleyes: )

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I hope that wasn't directed at me, I've spent a fair enough amount of cash in Music Zone since it opened. As I already said £20 for The Trilogy wasn't bad or I wouldn't have paid ... simple as that and it made us chuckle.

I sympathise with the situation but blame the internet Lindsay, it's the music download websites that are running music stores into the ground. Yes I use them too but usually as a taster for listening to a newly recommended band but if I like what I hear on download a CD can't be beaten for quality.

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made a mistake double post

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So, Maxwell Silver, you pretend to have an ounce of decency by saying things like "it's really bad that your shop is closing" , ask in a cheeky chappie half serious way if Lindsay can get you a cheap Editors t-shirt and a Queen Sheer Heart Attack CD (and I believe you went into her shop and purchased it) then slag her and her staff off because of a simple error and start talking about getting trading standards involved. I trust you've never made an error at work????? Don't you think her and her staff have one or two more important things on their minds.....like redundancy? YOU DISGUST ME AND YES IT'S ME TAKING KARMA OFF YOU.

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Not aimed at anyone;just think it's a bit cheap having a pop at us at the moment;for 3 of us it's the second time in 3 years that this has happened,it's not the New Year we were hoping for shall we say;one of the team has just got a mortgage;another was hoping to try for a baby this year, another trying to fund her way thru college. Corporate nonces make these decisions at the stroke of a pen and peoples lives are instantly turned upside down ;in Accy it's nowt to do with downloading,it's all to do with Asda selling the big title dvds at cost price. Ah well,think of us fondly when you can't get anything other than the latest Top 20 in Accy;daftly enough we are currently trading a whopping 91% up on last year....panic buying I suspect.:rolleyes:

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It wasn't a pop at you and your staff Lindsay, it really wasn't. When I posted about my purchase it just turned into a bit of a thread wander regarding the myth with consumer rights, that Rind has already put us straight on.

When I saw The Trilogy marked up at £12.97 (I think it was) I couldn't believe how cheap it was. OK, so it was marked up wrong, as you say an honest mistake. I still think the price was good at £19.97 or when I got to the counter I would have said no to that price.

I thought most of your profit would come from music not DVD sales being a music shop?

It is a tragedy for you and your staff ...... and also for the people of Accy. I love nothing more than a mooch around a good music shop.

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I don't think it's ASDA's chart sales that have done it, they'll have had an effect when the big titles have come out like Pirates of the Caribbean for instance but over the long term, like Tinkerbelle said, downloading is so easy these days so actually purchasing music/DVDs is a rarity for many people.
It's very very sad news I wish everyone working there the best for the future.

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It was the same with bookshops. When people could buy cheap paperbacks from Asda they thought it was brilliant - until we lost Wardleworths and everything else that went with it, like being able to order obscure books.

I mourne the loss of independant music stores in the same way. It won't be good for the music industry long term either because this isn't just happening in Accrington. Where will people buy non chart stuff?

I wish you and the rest of the team good luck in finding new jobs - in the end it's Accrington's loss :(

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Downloads downloads downloads.

:(

I find it strange how much people have changed & no one wants to buy music anymore. For me it's half of the package.

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Forgot to give more tidings of great joy to all those who buy their music and dvd on-line;there is loophole in the way that buying on line works;the company you buy from don't pay VAT ; Amazon and HMV's (amongst others) website are all getting their stock VAT free at the moment,this will stop in Sept this year due to new govt legislation designed to help the high street retailer,guess who they will pass the VAT on to.....bring on that £15.99 price point for a cd.:rolleyes:

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I totally agree with you, I for one pore over lyrics, musicians, cover notes etc. It stems from buying vinyl but CD's have carried it on for me.

You don't get that with downloads, there's nothing tangible.

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Sorry yes I meant official downloads like iTunes. I'd gone on a bit of a mind wander about the top 40 charts & forgot to add in the 'official' bit...

It's just technology evolving I suppose, what with downloads counting towards chart placings and CDs becoming almost as obsolete as vinyl. I do like downloading from P2P to get a taste of what is on an album before buying as I'm pretty tight with my dosh but compiling thousands of tracks onto a computer chip?
Not for me ta.

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I just think it is very, very sad that another much loved shop in Accrington is closing, for whatever reason.

I'm not just saying this because I know Lindsay, I always had great service when I went in there from all the staff, including the security guys when I once set the alarm off, and it will be missed.

I hope everyone who works/ed there eventually finds jobs were their talents will be appreciated. I picked up a book I'd ordered in W H Smiths today. The assistant was a dozy loon. I hate surly, bad or indifferent service, something I never had in MusicZone.

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First off i didn't ask for a cheap t-shirt,just to keep one to one side if she could,i would have paid full price as i did with the cd.The trading standards remark was more aimed at retailers as a whole & nothing personal to the staff at MZ.Anyway who'es to know it was a genuine error,& i certainly wouldn't get the TSinvolved over a couple of quid.By the way i wished Lyndsay & staff all the best while i was in.As for you ,Mr Angry from FKW..."cheeky chappie",my arse.

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I've got an MP3 player that I've rarely used and even then only for the radio. My kids think I'm a sad case but I agree, even though I've done it, that downloading and compiling your own CD is a bit of a hassle. I've also been known to accidentally include the wrong tracks and we'll be listening to an Alice Cooper CD in the car when all of a sudden the Eagles crop up in the middle and I go "How did that get there?" which causes much hilarity with the rest of the family. We also have the Dr. Hook album with the same track on twice - good value for money that one :D

I was just reading in the paper today that a lot of people don't even think of backing up their music to CD and if the PC dies they lose hundreds of pounds worth of music. Some insurance companies will pay out but only if you've kept the receipt from the site you bought it from - and where do most of us keep our online receipts? On our PCs? :rolleyes:

And just for the record, yes I have shopped in Music Zone and in OurPrice before that and I will miss the shop.

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Yes i do back mine up onto cd not only just in case my pc dies but also to save valuable space so that pc dont get too clogged up or slow down by it, usually when a cd worth is on then it gets put to disk other than that it stays till complete but even still dont lose a lot anyways:D

Yeh i've shopped at both geee our price was one of my fav shops when i was younger:rolleyes:

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[quote=Shady McGough;369017a Queen Sheer Heart Attack CD (and I believe you went into her shop and purchased it)[/quote]Bloody hell,your one nosey ****e.Course i went in MZ & bought it,i wanted the thing.Better than wishing them all well then going off to HMV &buying it.That would be hypocritical of me.You really do strike me as bieng some pompous arsehole,well you can stick your holier than thou attitude where you'd like it most.I disgust you do i? Dog dirt,rapists & chid abusers disgust me & i hope your not tarring me with the same brush.You make me sick.Took my karma?Big deal.:mad:

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I can only re-iterate what everyone else has said on here, it's a bloody shame if a buyer can't be found for Music Zone. I feel so sorry for Lindsey & her staff who are always so friendly & helpful, i sometimes spend ages mooching round in there just in case something catches my eye & it's always the first place I go to buy cd's or dvd's. I'm keeping my fingers crossed for the staff & for Accy, after all what will we get in it's place of the worst does happen - another pound shop I suspect!

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went into music zone today, most of the stock has gone down in price but thats just the crappy stuff....everything i wanted is still a bit more than i'd hoped to pay for it :)

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Go into HMV in Blackburn, everything's about five pounds more expensive.

Best of Blue CD - HMV £14.99...........Music Zone £2.97

Wether you like Blue or not is not the issue, just the price comparison.

Happy hunting.

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Got best of The Small Faces, best of Johnny Cash, 1 year old Coral album for under 8 quid the other day.
Of course it's a bargain but it's really sad to see DVDs at 97p.

I'm really really going to miss it because I refuse to shop at HMV, and ASDA/Woolworths will never do half of the collection MusicZone has on display.

Off to Burnley it is then :(

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Well that's it; the receivers turned up at just after 9 am today,they cashed up the tills,took our keys and that was it. Accrington loses it's only specialist music store,6 people lose their jobs and yet again I am left pondering the way these things work. The stock is still in the store,we made a profit year on year,the company was performing well compared to HMV's £36 million losses in 6 months .We owed £2 million(so we have been told) How come they are still trading and we aren't???
I have to say a big thanks to our regulars;you know who you are; this is not easy,we have a lot of regulars we know by first names;hopefully we will still see you around town.
The majority of Accy folk have felt sorry and even touched by our plight,believe me there are several other "big names" struggling in our town;if they go we will have no town.
Anyhoo; say Hi to us when you see us in town;we tried our best.
Lindsay,Vicky,Andrew,Christian,Neil & Michelle.

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No -one interested in the demise of your only music shop then???
Too late now;pay the bus fare to Blackburn or DOWNLOAD it and hammer the final nail into the coffin of music retailers. 6 hard working people out of job as of today;...go and ask 'em in Woolies/Asda/Tesco what was the last Beautiful South cd or "what's that tune on the advert with all them coloured balls?"

You will miss us now we are gone.

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Heard it on the news tonight.

Very sad.:mad:

I hope you and your fine staff find jobs soon.

G xx

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I've only just seen your post Lindsey, so sorry - hope you all find new jobs soon

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Lindsey,
Sorry to hear about your jobs. Have you seen the link my wife posted about the job at Jewsons? I know its not music but it would help pay the bills

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Sorry to hear about the closure and loss of jobs, hope you find work soon Lindsay.