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andrewb 09-01-2007 19:23

Am I losing my religion?
 
After talking with entwisi about the new Apple iPhone, which seems amazing to say the least (but lets keep this on topic, can make an iPhone devotee thread elsewhere), I discovered that I really do hate certain aspects of Capitalism with quite a passion.

He brought up that it wouldn't be out in Europe for another year and we assume there will be blocks in place to prevent importing, much like Sony tried to stop the importing of PSP's from Japan, and won in the courts.

I feel its completely wrong, we should be able to obtain and use a product from another company if its usable here, not have it blocked if the only purpose of the block is marketing strategy for the company to increase profits.

Now see im fighting the liberal cause here, but the other side of the argument being that these companies, Sony, Apple, are just trying to make a living on their end too, but should they be doing that at the expense of other peoples liberties?

Its quite a hard subject because of course, without Apple or Sony we wouldn't have these products in the first place, but on the other hand their greed for more profits is driven by marketing strategy which usually sees a later European launch. Its just how they go about it that I personally have a problem with.

steeljack 09-01-2007 19:37

Re: Am I losing my religion?
 
same thing applies to the availibility prescription medicines

SPUGGIE J 09-01-2007 23:17

Re: Am I losing my religion?
 
Basic law of supply and demand. If its in demand and you can only supply a certain number then a higher price can be charged and people will buy. By making it rare and as they are a monopoly then they choose when to pass it on to the masses and with subtle marketing they create such a demand that people do pay the mad prices charged.


Does that make any sense to you?

garinda 09-01-2007 23:21

Re: Am I losing my religion?
 
Disillusioned with capitalism?

You'll be throwing away your blue rosette and spouting from Chairman Mao's Little Red Book next.:D

Don't forget that I foresaw this happening ages ago.:D

SPUGGIE J 09-01-2007 23:24

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 364623)
Disillusioned with capitalism?

You'll be throwing away your blue rosette and spouting from Chairman Mao's Little Red Book next.:D

Don't forget that I foresaw this happening ages ago.:D

The poor lad is looking for solice and an explination and you are sticking the boot in. :D

We all learn by our mistakes. :D

steeljack 09-01-2007 23:27

Re: Am I losing my religion?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 364623)
Disillusioned with capitalism?

You'll be throwing away your blue rosette and spouting from Chairman Mao's Little Red Book next.:D

Don't forget that I foresaw this happening ages ago.:D

Ease up on the kid :D :D he's away at college being indoctrinated by all these sandal wearing, brown bread eating, corduroy jacketwearing left-wing commie types :D :D

SPUGGIE J 09-01-2007 23:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 364629)
Ease up on the kid :D :D he's away at college being indoctrinated by all these sandal wearing, brown bread eating, corduroy jacketwearing left-wing commie types :D :D


Oh brain washed now I am with it. :o

andrewb 10-01-2007 06:38

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Originally Posted by SPUGGIE J (Post 364621)
Basic law of supply and demand. If its in demand and you can only supply a certain number then a higher price can be charged and people will buy. By making it rare and as they are a monopoly then they choose when to pass it on to the masses and with subtle marketing they create such a demand that people do pay the mad prices charged.


Does that make any sense to you?

Oh I know exactly why companies do it, im complaining that they're allowed to :p Speaking of which I have a business studies exam in 1.5hours on this subject :p

Garinda, im sure i'd be going the yellow way if anything :D

WillowTheWhisp 10-01-2007 07:37

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Of course people/companies can also price themselves out of the market by charging more than people are willing or able to pay - then if a rival can produce a more affordable alternative they lose the market completely.

andrewb 10-01-2007 20:15

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Just rivals can't produce alternatives because companies patent the best ideas. Like the apple ipod, its not the best mp3 player, but I have to admit its certainly the best interface I have used because of the click wheel, which nobody can copy.

Apple have 200 patents protecting technology on the iPhone :p

Ianto.W. 10-01-2007 23:09

Re: Am I losing my religion?
 
I think you should take holy orders Cyfr, the cut and thrust of business does not seem to be the path for you, it's not your religion you'll loose it's your mortal soul, the economics of Mr Mickawber don't apply in real life, only in fiction novels. :D

steeljack 10-01-2007 23:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ianto.W. (Post 365295)
I think you should take holy orders Cyfr, the cut and thrust of business does not seem to be the path for you, it's not your religion you'll loose it's your mortal soul, the economics of Mr Mickawber don't apply in real life, only in fiction novels. :D

your just being a cynical owd sod :D the young un will be dis-illusioned with the real world soon enough :D

Ianto.W. 10-01-2007 23:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 365330)
your just being a cynical owd sod :D the young un will be dis-illusioned with the real world soon enough :D

I am just trying to make life a little smoother for this nice young man, Before some large comglomerate decides to 'head' hunt him. :D

LancYorkYankee 11-01-2007 03:00

Re: Am I losing my religion?
 
Although I really don't see the interest in this modern technology for the price charged (my kids and their I-pods (what's wrong with the radio), kids with cellphones, etc.) I may have a solution.

When/if I make it over this spring, I'll slip a few of these must haves in my luggage for ya. Of course I'd have to make a handy profit (ya know Capitalism):D (just kidding). I'd get em to you at my cost. Although, buying me rounds at the meet may be an acceptable tip!:p

No seriously, if this is an interest to anyone over there, just tell me what to get and I'd be more then happy to get em to ya!

Brian

entwisi 11-01-2007 07:17

Re: Am I losing my religion?
 
with the price of kit normally 1$=1£ on tech stuff this could be quite a saving. You do need to be careful though Brian, UK C&E will be very interested in a man coming over with 3 suitcases full of electronic stuff.


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