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WillowTheWhisp

12-01-2007 10:56

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I shall go and have another read of that site. I found the videos hard to listen to as there's always too much peripheral noise here even when I ask people to be quiet and he is so softly spoken.

WillowTheWhisp

12-01-2007 11:01

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Well I can see the bit where it says:

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On the days after the professor's ordeal, the Atlanta police were continuing to stop historians from jaywalking. Anybody caught crossing the street against the light was reprimanded. Many were asked to produce their driver's license. But police did not arrest anybody. Some historians were mildly amused by the attentiveness of the police to the crime of jaywalking.

I don't see where it says that they'd been doing it before.

When I read that part previously I was just pleased to see that they hadn't manhandled anyone else and assumed that perhaps they'd learned that less is more.

garinda

12-01-2007 11:05

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Well without going around in circles, we'll have to agree to disagree.

I just know none of it would have happened to me, because I have more sense, and would have complied with the request for i-d.

WillowTheWhisp

12-01-2007 11:07

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You see what I mean about it all being down to understanding or misunderstanding? Even reading the report of the incident can be interpreted in diffrent ways. :D

Anyhow I still say being an upper class twit has never been a crime either here or in Georgia.

jedimaster

12-01-2007 11:09

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but was he actually kicked to the ground?

or was he pushed onto the ground to be handcuffed ( a common thing to quickly and safely immobilise the person and prevent injury to both detainee and police officer if detainee decides to put up a fight)

i believe that this has been blown out of all proportion and that it is the nutty professor and the press that are ott in this case

WillowTheWhisp

12-01-2007 11:11

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His version of events is that he had his legs kicked out from under him. Why do people have to be on the ground to be arrested? People here are normally arrested in a vertical position aren't they?

garinda

12-01-2007 11:16

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http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/met...twalk0110.html

jedimaster

12-01-2007 11:19

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 365974)

His version of events is that he had his legs kicked out from under him. Why do people have to be on the ground to be arrested? People here are normally arrested in a vertical position aren't they?

depends on the situation if they agree yes
if not then it means using force and putting the suspect on the ground is one of the safest and most effective ways for both police officer and suspect

SPUGGIE J

12-01-2007 12:36

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Looking back and after a look at some of the posts I started to wonder why wlse the cops would go nuts. Then it occured to me that its not just the numpty bimbling accros the road in the wrong place that gets hurt. There is the car that could hit him and the trouble that would cause with injuries possibly to the driver. Then what about the mental trauma the medical bills and what it would do to any kids seeing it especially if they were in the car. So fair doo's the police were over the top but compared to what might have happened he got off lightly.

WillowTheWhisp

12-01-2007 13:21

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Now that's a very interestingly different slant to things Rindy because to read the officers account there is no reference at all to the professor having his legs kicked out from under him and yet:

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"It looked rather pathetic," said Lisa Kazmier, a professor of history at Drexel University in Philadelphia. She witnessed the arrest. "I definitely felt sorry for the guy. It was like he was Osama Bin Laden or something. It seemed so bizarre seeing this helpless looking guy on the ground like that."

At least it hasn't been dismissed or poohpoohed by Mayor Shirley Franklin who said she has asked police chief Richard Pennington to look into 'the incident' so it is obviously a concern that this shouldn't be a normal ocurrance.

Billcat

12-01-2007 14:00

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 365843)

I suspect you are wrong. I bet they eat meat.

How very louche.:D

Nope. Donuts! :p

Billcat

12-01-2007 14:06

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Originally Posted by LancYorkYankee (Post 365852)

It's based on the hated rivalry in the game of baseball between the Boston Red Sox (yay, woohoo, yippee, Go Sox) and the hated New York Yankees (boo, hiss, eat my shorts Billcat . . .).

Okay, American etiquet lesson, and 3 lagers, over!

Brian

"Eat my shorts?" My, you are being retro today!

You are welcome to my share of the lagers.

Red Sox? Red Sox? Is that one of those minor-league franchises? :confused: I will admit, however, that my dad was a Boston Braves fan while he was at Hahvahd! "Spahn, Sain, and two days of rain!"

Billcat

12-01-2007 14:11

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 365861)

Why on earth should it have escalated into the prof having his legs kicked out from under him and half a dozen policemen to arrest him? Did it really need so many to pin down one puny little professor? Was it his upper class English accent that caused such a furore?

An English accent and just a soupcon of attitude (or the preception of attitude, even) would be enough to set off some cops. Obviously, as the mayor saw fit to have this incident investigated, there is a possibility that something was amiss.

Church Boy

12-01-2007 14:13

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Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 365841)

yep, and probably everyone of them is a vegan .....

Yes,But these fine officer's are attached to the vice squad,Georgia,s best kept secret.Jay walking is a way of life to them.

WillowTheWhisp

12-01-2007 14:14

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I think his accent and mannerisms could easily have been misinterpreted as "attitude".

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