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garinda 26-01-2007 23:34

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 375463)
I find it hard to believe that anyone learns to be gay. You is what you is.

Children hate being different from their peers, even if it's having red hair, wearing glasses, or anything else that makes them stand out differently from their friends. Why on earth would anyone chose to be different?

For some people still to believe that one day one wakes up and choses their sexuality is sad beyond belief.

And being controversial here, in my opinion the so called 'normal' people who worry about predatory homosexuals recruiting youngsters to their perverted club, are exactly the sort of people who harbour secret desires about their own sexual leanings.

garinda 26-01-2007 23:36

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Originally Posted by accybabs (Post 375471)
Thank you cashman...

thank goodness you can see common sense as well......

shame about some others

No actually shame on you.

Nice opening posts by the way, and welcome to the caring, sharing world of Accy Web.

garinda 26-01-2007 23:37

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Originally Posted by junetta (Post 375472)
Remember those two blokes who paid for a woman to have their children via artificial insemination a few years back? They had twin boys and went on to use the same lady a little later and now are the proud fathers of a little daughter?

I read an article about their little family a short time ago. The children are well adjusted and have two caring parents. What more could they ask?

As far as I'm concerned, if a child is wanted and loved, does it matter?

They do seem well adjusted, if a little spoiled, but hey the Beckhams do that to their kids too.

Ianto.W. 26-01-2007 23:39

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In my humble opinion, it is prety uncharted waters how do you gamble and say well lets try it and see if it works, all adoptions are somewhat a gamble no matter what sex the parents are, the adoptees could divorce or go to gaol, life is full of 'ifs an ands', the welfare of the children is paramount, and all that realy matters is that a decent monitoring service is in place, 'not to interfere' but as a fail safe back up if things go pear shaped. So why not?

garinda 26-01-2007 23:42

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Most child abuse in this country takes place in 'normal' families.

FACT.

WillowTheWhisp 26-01-2007 23:45

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We seem to have meandered from the point a little. Gay couples do adopt. This isn't about a law permitting them to adopt or banning them from adopting. It's about a law forcing an adoption agency to place children with gay couples rather than referring those couples to another agency. The Catholic church doesn't want to stop gay couples adopting, they just want to opt out of being the ones who organise it.

WillowTheWhisp 26-01-2007 23:46

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 375480)
Most child abuse in this country takes place in 'normal' families.

FACT.


If they are abusing children then they are not normal!

garinda 26-01-2007 23:46

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Jambutty why don't you write to Louise Brown's parents, and tell them they shouldn't really be enjoying being new grandparents, as their union didn't produce a normal child, and they had to resort to having the world's first test tube baby?

garinda 26-01-2007 23:48

Re: gay adoption
 
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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 375482)
We seem to have meandered from the point a little. Gay couples do adopt. This isn't about a law permitting them to adopt or banning them from adopting. It's about a law forcing an adoption agency to place children with gay couples rather than referring those couples to another agency. The Catholic church doesn't want to stop gay couples adopting, they just want to opt out of being the ones who organise it.


It is wandering, but when reasons are given that such adoptions might produce homosexual children through learned behaviour, that needs to be challenged.

slinky 26-01-2007 23:49

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 375480)
Most child abuse in this country takes place in 'normal' families.

FACT.


EXACTLY..........................and if anyone here on this forum can show me a normal FAMILY.............not only will I eat my Knickers!!! I will also call them a LIAR!!!!


Family life does NOT come with a book on DO's and DONT's............ you muddle through the way you think right at the time. And I'm sorry............EVEN a LESBIAN or GAY man could do that!!!!

steeljack 26-01-2007 23:49

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Crack and HIV/Aids babies are available from the Chatholic Aid adoption agency here in California, usually mixed race , I know a lesbian couple who have one of each

Mancie 26-01-2007 23:49

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Its great for debate.. but laws have been passed by an elected Parliment.. church V parliment.. and there is no way any religion should have the arrogence to suppose they can claim exemption to any elected body.. you voted for a Goverment.. not a religion

Mancie 26-01-2007 23:54

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Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 375487)
Crack and HIV/Aids babies are available from the Chatholic Aid adoption agency here in California, usually mixed race , I know a lesbian couple who have one of each

Thats a pretty keen statement from a country that proliferated the aids virus to the planet from white american folks

WillowTheWhisp 26-01-2007 23:54

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So are you saying Mancie that the Catholic church should have no rights?

garinda 26-01-2007 23:56

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'Children raised in gay or lesbian households do not show any greater incidence of homosexuality or gender identity issues than other children.'


http://www.healthyminds.org/glbissues.cfm


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