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Owd Bert 27-04-2007 07:34

Harry and Iraq
 
I have seen a report saying that Harry is not afraid to die. Hmmmmm -- well, I reckon there is a great difference between being afraid to die and nor wanting to die. Even an uneducated chap like myself can see that Harry`s Troop is going to come in for " special attention" from the insurgents. I hope that the members of his troop are of the same opinion as he is.

WillowTheWhisp 27-04-2007 07:56

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Andrew went to the Falklands.

cashman 27-04-2007 08:11

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 416416)
Andrew went to the Falklands.

yep but al-queida was not there, i think that parents of serving soldiers should have an input into wether he goes, after all its their kids that could well be in more danger if he does. very tricky subject this.

maxwell silver 27-04-2007 08:25

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 416426)
yep but al-queida was not there, i think that parents of serving soldiers should have an input into wether he goes, after all its their kids that could well be in more danger if he does. very tricky subject this.

Theres as much chance of soldiers parents being asked for their opinion as i was about the smoking ban.When they sign up they know not to question orders whatever the potential outcome.Many brave soldiers have lost their lives because of someone higher up the food chain thinking he knew best & did'nt have to bloody his own hands....ask Tony Blair & George Bush.I say he should'nt go,though i was of different opinion before,if its going to increase the risk to others around him.You never know the Royals might not be giving him that ticker tape heroes welcome home they were hoping for.

Neil 27-04-2007 08:32

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Originally Posted by Owd Bert (Post 416403)
from the insurgents

He is in the army so yes he should fight. If he gets killed then it will be a dreadful shame, just like when any of our armed forces are killed.

What's the difference between insurgents and freedom fighters?

Remedi 27-04-2007 23:01

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 416437)
He is in the army so yes he should fight. If he gets killed then it will be a dreadful shame, just like when any of our armed forces are killed.

What's the difference between insurgents and freedom fighters?


One mans terrorist is indeed anothe mans freedom fighter. I must say I agree with Flash though- personally not that concerned at the risk he poses to himself that is what he is in the army for BUT- the guys he is with will immediately be out at greater risk. the answer is quite simple dont let the royal family serve in the forces.
An even better sollution would of course be to not have a Royal Family at all- what a wonderful world this would be.

steeljack 27-04-2007 23:28

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I think the ideal posting if he wants to see Al Queda up close would be to send him as Tony Blairs "special military attache" as an observer at Guantanmo Bay concentration camp :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

flashy 28-04-2007 06:15

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they shouldnt of let anyone know he was going/gone till he came back, i blame the forces for letting people know.....silly people

fc:stanley 28-04-2007 13:08

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Well why be scared of dying , he loves the army and you shouldnt be afraid , once ya dead you cant feel the pain!

Owd Bert 28-04-2007 13:09

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 416437)

What's the difference between insurgents and freedom fighters?

Depends on your point of view comes to mind. Also the passing of the years can reverse the roles.

garinda 28-04-2007 13:35

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Nelson Mandela; freedom fighter or convicted terrorist?

It is strange, with the help of historical hindsight, how we class terrorists.

jambutty 28-04-2007 14:54

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Yes WillowTheWhisp but he was flying a helicopter and not exactly in the line of fire.

That is a lot different to patrolling a hostile area.

However Remedi has voiced my view in that if there were no royal family there wouldn’t be a problem.

We assume that Harry chose to join the army rather than the navy or air force and we assume that he has more than marbles between his ears so he should go and suffer whatever consequences he will meet. He might take a few of the generals with him too. In fact his patrol should be made up of generals and not squaddies. That would sort of square the circle.

steeljack 28-04-2007 15:11

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 416894)
Nelson Mandela; freedom fighter or convicted terrorist?

It is strange, with the help of historical hindsight, how we class terrorists.

also seem to remember that Robert Mugabe was hailed as a 'freedom fighter' who Margaret Thatcher described after dancing with him as the future face of African leadership.

garinda 28-04-2007 15:13

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Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 416954)
also seem to remember that Robert Mugabe was hailed as a 'freedom fighter' who Margaret Thatcher described after dancing with him as the future face of African leadership.

Was this in a Gentleman's Excuse Me, just after she'd danced with General Pinochet?:D

Ianto.W. 28-04-2007 22:02

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One thing I wish to say about this subject, and only one, never mind poor Harry who has no control over his own destiny, I would like to see the two 'supermen' who's only interest was the security of the oil wells, put in the firing line and see how they intend to stop what they started!


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