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spinner

30-04-2007 14:11

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 417790)

beats the hell out of me,complete nonsense! when my late missus n i lived abroad we lived by their laws- it was their country, it wasn,t a problem to us. so why the hell should it be to anyone living here?

generally speaking its organisations who are creating this separation. the asian polulation doesnt campaighn for separate laws. howeveer in private matters such as divorce though i dont hav problems with how people come to arrangements.this practise is encouraged within the system. that is a private matter and people can be guided by whatever religion they belive in- its nobody elses biusness. not yours or mine

WillowTheWhisp

30-04-2007 14:15

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Originally Posted by spinner (Post 417793)

my post wasnt intended to be divisive or racist but i have used specically the term our community for this reason. the likes of kazi and sabdar claim to represent the asian community in general. organisations such as the police deal with us differently. on that basis it is divisive and the asian community wishes to be treated just like any other community. the asian community is divided from other communities because of self interested busy bodies who claim to be leaders. are asian people puppy dogs who are expected to follow these people. safdar has used the term specifically in his election leaflet.

But why should 'the Asian community' be a separate entity from 'the Springhill community' or 'the Hyndburn community' ? Whenever the words 'The Community' are used nowadays it never means the whole community, it just means the Asians within that larger community and I find that sadly to be divisive. We all live in Hyndburn so why this 'them and us' distinction? Both candidates for Central Ward (where I live) are Asian, but do they not represent me as I am not Asian? Do they only represent 'the community'? A friend of mine (white woman) moved into a house on Higher Antley Street and has been told by a neighbour that she should not have moved into an Asian area! I was under the impression that we didn't have exclusive ghettos in Accy. :(

WillowTheWhisp

30-04-2007 14:19

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Originally Posted by spinner (Post 417797)

By the laws of this land divorce isn't a private matter, it's a legal matter. I can get married in my church but it must be done legally with a legal representative (registrar) present as that is the part that makes the marriage valid. To get divorced it is nothing to do with the church, I cannot get divorced in church - it's the courts which deal with divorces. I believe this applies to every other religion in this country apparently apart from Islam.

spinner

30-04-2007 14:20

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 417798)

But why should 'the Asian community' be a separate entity from 'the Springhill community' or 'the Hyndburn community' ? Whenever the words 'The Community' are used nowadays it never means the whole community, it just means the Asians within that largr community and I find that sadly to be divisive. We all live in Hyndburn so why this 'them and us' distinction? Both candidates for Central Ward (where I live) are Asian, but do they not repreent me as I am not Asian? Do they only represent 'the community'? A friend of mine (white woman) moved into a house on Higher Antley Street and has been told by a neighbour that she should not have moved into an Asian area! I was under the impression that we didn't have exclusive ghettos in Accy. :(

you are right willow constant references to the community are creating division and sadly the bigots from the BNP and the so called leaders will be the only ones to benefit

cashman

30-04-2007 14:25

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Originally Posted by spinner (Post 417800)

you are right willow constant references to the community are creating division and sadly the bigots from the BNP and the so called leaders will be the only ones to benefit

dont always agree with you spinner, but you are spot on with that comment, and thats as bad as it gets to me.

WillowTheWhisp

30-04-2007 14:27

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Absolutely and The BNP are lapping it up because they are using it to stir up ill feeling.

As far as I'm concerned the Central Ward representative should be my representative and I will be voting for the one who I believe hopefully will be representing everyone and not just the choice few. I don't think I need to tell you who I won't be voting for. His election leaflet didn't entice me anyway.

spinner

30-04-2007 14:42

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 417806)

good on ya girl

lesleyd

30-04-2007 15:35

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Originally Posted by davo69 (Post 417795)

when in rome do what the romens do .when in england we will bow to you.

That is just what i was thinking!!!

Lampman

30-04-2007 21:58

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Do we think that any powers permitted to this self appointed committee will stop at divorce and child custody issues?
Once appointed these clerics will be the only route allowed for many Muslims,surely this cannot be right in this day and age.
As discussed earlier we are the soft touch of Europe on everything from doling out benefits to turning a blind eye lest we offend minorities.For many Asian women this will be a retrograde step in their freedom from oppression of every kind.
Time will tell.

garinda

30-04-2007 23:35

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Non-Muslims are excluded from the secretive court which is registered as a charity to receive British tax benefits.
Although the court has no official legal standing, scales of justice adorn a sign outside a former pub building which has been converted by the Islamic Institute of Great Britain.

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/5795

So these 'courts' have charitable status, and therefore we are all paying for them?

Outrageous.

garinda

30-04-2007 23:42

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Outside the mosque a bonfire of thousands of video and audio cassettes and CDs, which included "Home Alone 4" and "Free Willy," was set alight as onlookers chanted "our way is jihad, jihad".
"This is porno material and blue films. This is destroying our society," said Maulana Ghazi, Aziz's brother.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.../07/wpak07.xml

Better get rid of your Macaulay Culkin films now...before it's too late.:D

cashman

30-04-2007 23:58

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Bullsh1t its because ireland beat em at cricket.:D

mani	01-05-2007 01:09

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:(

what did free willy ever do to them?!

and how can u possibly hate macauly culkin?!

on second thoughts yeah macauly maybe but willy?! noooooooooooooooo!!!

mani	01-05-2007 01:10

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oh hold on

macauly wasnt in part 4 right? he was in drug rehab i think at the time...

Neil	01-05-2007 05:41

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Will it ever get to the stage that people will be burning down/blowing up these Sharia courts and/or other Muslim buildings?
If so how long off those terrifying events are we?

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