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Royboy39 15-06-2007 18:43

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 435484)
you are making my point for me.......I need add nothing further.
And NO you haven't got MYpoint...a castrated man will not bother to kidnap a child...or kiss a child (other than perhaps maybe his own, and then in a fatherly way)....as I have tried to point out Castration removes all of these desires.....but as I can see I'm getting nowhere I will give up and admit defeat.

Dont be upset by this angry young lady Margeret.
Good candidate for president of the students union.

blazey 15-06-2007 18:43

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 435484)
you are making my point for me.......I need add nothing further.
And NO you haven't got MYpoint...a castrated man will not bother to kidnap a child...or kiss a child (other than perhaps maybe his own, and then in a fatherly way)....as I have tried to point out Castration removes all of these desires.....but as I can see I'm getting nowhere I will give up and admit defeat.

You dont need to have sexual desire to kidnap a child either. You can have other reasons to kidnap children not just to rape them or kill them. You might want to steal a child and try to bring it up as its own but you'd still be a child molester if you stole a child and bathed it.

If someone stole my brother to bring up as their own and they bathed him I would be quite aware that they had sexually assaulted my brother as it be against parental consent for the child. You'd be disgusted and call them a paedophile, they wouldnt be merely a child snatcher.

blazey 15-06-2007 18:46

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Originally Posted by Royboy39 (Post 435488)
Dont be upset by this angry young lady Margeret.
Good candidate for president of the students union.

I have very good reason to be in a bad mood but Im sorry if I'm letting it get to me. The thread isnt making me angry I'm just annoyed about something else. My poor boyfriends getting all the shouting at ;)

Margaret Pilkington 15-06-2007 20:53

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I'm not angry at all...just a little bit amazed that after all that has been said, I seem to be going round in circles and getting nowhere...when that happens you know it is no use in putting any further points forward as the initial ones don't seem to have got across too well. Maybe someone else can make it clearer for this young lady.

Margaret Pilkington 15-06-2007 21:00

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Originally Posted by blazey (Post 435489)
You dont need to have sexual desire to kidnap a child either. You can have other reasons to kidnap children not just to rape them or kill them. You might want to steal a child and try to bring it up as its own but you'd still be a child molester if you stole a child and bathed it.

If someone stole my brother to bring up as their own and they bathed him I would be quite aware that they had sexually assaulted my brother as it be against parental consent for the child. You'd be disgusted and call them a paedophile, they wouldnt be merely a child snatcher.

No I wouldn't call them a paedophile unless they had used your brother to gratify their own sexual urges.
Anyone who kidnaps a child is a kidnapper...not a paedophile....and bathing a child is not the action of a paedophile...otherwise parents all over the world would be indicted for this crime....foster carers bath children with no malign intent......somewhere along the way the plot of this thread has got lost or confused.
so here I am after I said i was going to give up....maybe that is a triumph of hope over reality. :)

Less 15-06-2007 23:35

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Originally Posted by blazey (Post 435438)
You are obviously referring to me as 'the sympathetic one' but you can happily say my name and I wont be offended. I guess in my generation your taught to look at every possible aspect rather than be one sided.
The reason I havent mentioned the victims of abuse is because even though some may never get over the problem they have been through, there are facilities there for them that helps with their side of the issue, but as margeret said there isnt a simple method of fixing the issue of sex offenders, not just child offenders. A psychiatrist can merely diagnose someone who has such an abnormal and unacceptable mental defect but at least they can help the victims not only come to terms with the situation but they can do their best to heal them. Therefore I think its fair to say discussion on finding mutual agreements throughout society of a method of punishment or, how can i put it, 'fixing' sex offenders is of more importance as its lack of mutual agreement on the problem that result in there still being no way of 'fixing' them.

I get taught to have opinions like this, just because it makes me a minority on here doesnt mean to say i'm being irrational by not wanting to commit murder. I was taught that was wrong just as commiting a sex offence is wrong.

Don't you talk some sh4t?

Don't protect the perves, protect or at least help the victims!
The perpetrators protect themselves by frightening the children, they, (the children), often end up thinking there is no-one out there to help them, well unlike you I will help the victim rather than the sick sod that causes the problem in the first place.

Protect him/them, (theses sicko's), as much as you want, both yourself and your father have made it clear with karma comments that you don't like me to tell the truth, well what do you want? I can put my point of view to you and you can shoot it down in flames, if you can prove that these perv's are doing the children some good all very well. Otherwise don't protect them, they deserve all that can be thrown at them for robbing a child of it's innocence!

If you can't live with that, I don't think you will ever develope into a decent human being!

steeljack 16-06-2007 00:46

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I notice that amongst all this psycho twaddle about curing and healing these perverts no one has mentioned that these folks are just plain sodding evil , to my mind there is no cure for evil .
Probably one day in the not to far distant future they will find the genes which cause sexual perversity and then we can screen prospective parents and say yea or nay about their rights to produce , and while were at it lets just make sure that all babies with the good genes have blond hair and blue eyes ........ haven't we heard this somewhere before :rolleyes::rolleyes:

Wynonie Harris 16-06-2007 08:24

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Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 435589)
I notice that amongst all this psycho twaddle about curing and healing these perverts no one has mentioned that these folks are just plain sodding evil , to my mind there is no cure for evil .

Hit the nail right on the head, SJ. Sod the psychobabble, just surgically castrate them, end of story!

blazey 16-06-2007 12:31

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 435581)
Don't you talk some sh4t?

Don't protect the perves, protect or at least help the victims!
The perpetrators protect themselves by frightening the children, they, (the children), often end up thinking there is no-one out there to help them, well unlike you I will help the victim rather than the sick sod that causes the problem in the first place.

Protect him/them, (theses sicko's), as much as you want, both yourself and your father have made it clear with karma comments that you don't like me to tell the truth, well what do you want? I can put my point of view to you and you can shoot it down in flames, if you can prove that these perv's are doing the children some good all very well. Otherwise don't protect them, they deserve all that can be thrown at them for robbing a child of it's innocence!

If you can't live with that, I don't think you will ever develope into a decent human being!

Please dont refer to someone as my father. A more suitable term is sperm donor.

There are many things that dont do children very good either, such as watching their parents argue or witnessing a bad crime. Its almost impossible to protect a child from all evil.

Seen as I'm aiming towards a job that needs detachment then it doesnt bother me in the slightest why you cant understand why im saying i wouldnt kill a paedophile. I got taught to kill NOBODY, whatever their crime.

Royboy39 16-06-2007 12:54

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[quote=blazey;435641]Please dont refer to someone as my father. A more suitable term is sperm donor.

I wondered what the hang up was.

Looking at your sig: I would have thought that common sense is something that can be used without predjudice by those who use it with care, regardless of age.

Margaret Pilkington 16-06-2007 13:00

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 435604)
Hit the nail right on the head, SJ. Sod the psychobabble, just surgically castrate them, end of story!

I think that was my conclusion too....in post 103.

blazey 16-06-2007 13:00

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Originally Posted by blazey (Post 435641)
Please dont refer to someone as my father. A more suitable term is sperm donor.

I wondered what the hang up was.

Looking at your sig: I would have thought that common sense is something that can be used without predjudice by those who use it with care, regardless of age.

Its a quote from a famous scientist. I believe its meant to be sarcasm :rolleyes:

Margaret Pilkington 16-06-2007 13:02

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Blazey, if you want to discuss the topic of destructive adult relationships...and the effect they have on children...then I would respectfully suggest that you start a thread about it. It has no place in this discussion.

blazey 16-06-2007 13:10

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 435646)
Blazey, if you want to discuss the topic of destructive adult relationships...and the effect they have on children...then I would respectfully suggest that you start a thread about it. It has no place in this discussion.

I didnt say I did, I said dont refer to someone as something that they arent.

Margaret Pilkington 16-06-2007 13:28

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But then you went on to comment on destructive adult relationships and their effects on children......which is nothing to do with the substance of the thread.


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