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Rosebud 02-07-2007 20:36

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Having just got in from work this is the first opportunity I have had to catch up on what has been posted in this thread. There are a few things that I need to clarify given that it was my question that started this.

1. There was NO malicious or mischevious intent in asking the question. I was genuinely interested to knpw whaty peoples thoughts were on the subject. I saw reference to it in another post the day before and it got me thinking about the concept of free speech and if there were any acceptable boundaries to be applied or if, by doing so, you actually contradict that very freedom.

2. I fully accept Willows point that I misread the initial response ie- wht didn't you post a comment on the original thread- I didnt read this as a question I read it as 'having a go'. As a result I feel I probably did react in a knee jerk defensive manner.

3. What followed however was I felt, and still feel, an OTT attack. I dont think it is ever acceptable to use terms like 'idiot' or to suggest that someone is mentally ill- I dont think I misunderstood or misread these comments I think they were unacceptable.

4. I am guessing that comments like 'been here before' and the suspicion alluded to is suggesting that I have posted previously and been banned- this is not the case. I recognise that you only have my word for it but it is nonetheless the truth.

I have little history to base my experience of Accyweb on but have sympathy with the comments of previous posters. All I can say is that what happened last night felt like a shark attack- one sniff of blood and certain members were in for the kill. Try and read the posts- actually what was written not your perception of the subtext and I am sure you may well see what I mean.

There seems to be a suggestion that the web is meant for lighthearted discussion about fun topics- and if that is the case then that is absolutely fine there is clearly a place for that in the world and I can see the attraction of this type of forum. But does that have to be at the cost of challenging debate of more substantial issues after all everyone can vote with their feet by not posting of the arent interested. It is somewhat ironic that a post of about freedom of speech led to this state of affairs.

West Ender 02-07-2007 20:42

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Repeating myself, Rosebud, I had no one specifically in mind, more the way the thread was developing. I thought of answering your original question but others had already said what I would have said - so I didn't. I don't believe in labouring a point.

blazey 02-07-2007 20:54

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 443088)
Your not rosebud are you? He/she talks very similar to you, which isn't posh but it isn't common, erm' common sense, that is. :rolleyes:

You know I'm beginning to think you feel threatened by intelligent females.

Sparkologist 02-07-2007 21:09

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Some members of Accyweb have become suspicious of your posts and percieved motives, Rosebud, because you appeared on site immediately after an idiot hiding under the nom-de-plume of "Piltymon" was banned, not for the first time, I might add. Your style of posting displays the same modus operandi as him.
When you arrive on site, not giving anyone any clues with regards to who you are, and posting in a contentious manner, people will question your motives.

If you need any hints in how to fill in your profile, take a look at mine, and use it as a template. I ain't hiding from anyone... other than parole officers and bounty hunters.

WillowTheWhisp 02-07-2007 21:09

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Originally Posted by Rosebud (Post 443545)

There seems to be a suggestion that the web is meant for lighthearted discussion about fun topics- and if that is the case then that is absolutely fine there is clearly a place for that in the world and I can see the attraction of this type of forum. But does that have to be at the cost of challenging debate of more substantial issues after all everyone can vote with their feet by not posting of the arent interested. It is somewhat ironic that a post of about freedom of speech led to this state of affairs.

I like a bit of light hearted fun on the forum but I also do enjoy the serious discussions and something we can get our teeth into. I agree with you that we should be able to get our teeth into them without resorting to petty name calling which is on a par with the trolls we deplore. We've had some corking discussions in the past and hopefully will have again. This is an interesting topic and I can see how the idea was sparked by something you read in another post. It's just unfortunate that we'd had an unpleasant episode shortly before this and people were still on the defensive.

Hopefully from now on common sense will prevail and we can get back to debating some interesting topics and enjoying a bit of light hearted banter alongside that.
:)

lancsdave 02-07-2007 21:11

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Originally Posted by blazey (Post 443566)
You know I'm beginning to think you feel threatened by intelligent females.


I suspect I know what the answer to that might be :rofl38:

garinda 02-07-2007 21:11

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Originally Posted by Sparkologist (Post 443586)
Some members of Accyweb have become suspicious of your posts and percieved motives, Rosebud, because you appeared on site immediately after an idiot hiding under the nom-de-plume of "Piltymon" was banned, not for the first time, I might add. Your style of posting displays the same modus operandi as him.
When you arrive on site, not giving anyone any clues with regards to who you are, and posting in a contentious manner, people will question your motives.

If you need any hints in how to fill in your profile, take a look at mine, and use it as a template. I ain't hiding from anyone... other than parole officers and bounty hunters.

Wasn't your very first post one asking if all the members of the forum were fascists?

No, mine neither.:D

blazey 02-07-2007 21:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sparkologist (Post 443586)
Some members of Accyweb have become suspicious of your posts and percieved motives, Rosebud, because you appeared on site immediately after an idiot hiding under the nom-de-plume of "Piltymon" was banned, not for the first time, I might add. Your style of posting displays the same modus operandi as him.
When you arrive on site, not giving anyone any clues with regards to who you are, and posting in a contentious manner, people will question your motives.

If you need any hints in how to fill in your profile, take a look at mine, and use it as a template. I ain't hiding from anyone... other than parole officers and bounty hunters.

As far as I'm aware Rosebud has nothing to do with him and if anyone was to know I think it would be me. If Rosebud IS anything to do with him, it would be his girlfriend Heather, though I dont think he'll have got around the system again, and he hasnt been online at all on msn, then again, he may have blocked me ;)

garinda 02-07-2007 21:13

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My comic reference to care in the community, I stand by, because that's what it feels like on here of late.

Rosebud 02-07-2007 21:16

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Dont know who this person is honestly. Also although very much in touch with my feminine side I am male.
Garinda's point about my very first post did not call anyone a fascist- it was very contentious in tone though however and perhaps misjudged on my part. I will accept that and apologise for this misjudgement.

Less 02-07-2007 21:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sparkologist (Post 443586)

If you need any hints in how to fill in your profile, take a look at mine, and use it as a template. I ain't hiding from anyone... other than parole officers and bounty hunters.

Ah! Don Vito Corleone, it is so good to see you posting once more and on such a minor thread as this, is there anything the family can do for you?

;)

garinda 02-07-2007 21:21

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Originally Posted by Rosebud (Post 443595)
Garinda's point about my very first post did not call anyone a fascist- it was very contentious in tone though however and perhaps misjudged on my part. I will accept that and apologise for this misjudgement.

True, instead you started a thread asking if we have our social meets in a BNP pub.

As an intoduction to yourself it wasn't the smartest start.

Most people start off posting in the introduction thread.

Hello, my name is blah blah blah. I'm here because of yada yada yada...you know the sort of thing.:)

WillowTheWhisp 02-07-2007 21:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rosebud (Post 443595)
Dont know who this person is honestly. Also although very much in touch with my feminine side I am male.
Garinda's point about my very first post did not call anyone a fascist- it was very contentious in tone though however and perhaps misjudged on my part. I will accept that and apologise for this misjudgement.

Apology accepted by me for one - that was another thread and hopefully sorted and done with in that thread. You just reminded me of it though so I may go hunting in order to add another thought I thought of this weekend.

garinda 02-07-2007 21:24

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I'm suffering from mixed metaphors now.

Are we the mafiosa, or sharks?

I need to know so I can organise the right costumes.

WillowTheWhisp 02-07-2007 21:24

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 443601)
True, instead you started a thread asking if we have our social meets in a BNP pub.

As an intoduction to yourself it wasn't the smartest start.


Wasn't his first post in the Pals thread? I remember thinking of Citizen Kane when I saw the name.

garinda 02-07-2007 21:25

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 443604)
Wasn't his first post in the Pals thread? I remember thinking of Citizen Kane when I saw the name.


If it was, I appologise.

It was the first that I saw.

WillowTheWhisp 02-07-2007 21:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 443603)
I'm suffering from mixed metaphors now.

Are we the mafiosa, or sharks?

I need to know so I can organise the right costumes.

Oooh can I be a shark, can I? Can I, please? I like sharks and I can't speak Sicilian. ;)

blazey 02-07-2007 21:27

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 443606)
If it was, I appologise.

I think rosebud knows too much on current british issues to be piltymon or his gf in america. Just got that feeling.

lancsdave 02-07-2007 21:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 443604)
Wasn't his first post in the Pals thread? I remember thinking of Citizen Kane when I saw the name.

Will I be promoted to one stage above idiot if I tell you the correct answer :D


http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...tml#post441902

Less 02-07-2007 21:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by blazey (Post 443566)
You know I'm beginning to think you feel threatened by intelligent females.

Not in the slightest, I look forward the day when I finally meet one!:D


Actually I have a great deal of respect for many of the intelligent members of the 'Fair Sex', I just wonder why you think that the description intelligent female should fit a child like you? Pass your exams do well and time will prove if you are as you claim, otherwise you might just be what I suspect you to be, an 18 year old that is full of it.:)

garinda 02-07-2007 21:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 443607)
Oooh can I be a shark, can I? Can I, please? I like sharks and I can't speak Sicilian. ;)

Right that's you done.

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/image...4_shark203.jpg

Next!

I haven't got all day.

Margaret Pilkington 02-07-2007 21:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rosebud (Post 443595)
Dont know who this person is honestly. Also although very much in touch with my feminine side I am male.
Garinda's point about my very first post did not call anyone a fascist- it was very contentious in tone though however and perhaps misjudged on my part. I will accept that and apologise for this misjudgement.

I think that when you can see that you made a misjudgement and apologise it would truly be churlish not to accept the apology.
I must admit, that I too thought you were this other person using a nom de plume to get past the moderators. For that, I apologise.

Stanaccy 02-07-2007 21:31

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Right lets get this thread back on something like track without flamers and trollers as I am pig sick of folk dragging decent discussion into the gutter.

WTF argue and slag folk off just cause they disagree with you?

There is no such thing as "BIG GUNS" they are people who post comments FFS.!!!

TW it was me who paraphrased Voltaire over the freedom of speach and I would fight to defend someones right to say something I deplore as it is the only way to beat those who would destroy our way of life. Let them speak and show how perverse their ideas are and they will lose in the debating chamber.

Sparkologist 02-07-2007 21:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Less (Post 443597)
Ah! Don Vito Corleone, it is so good to see you posting once more and on such a minor thread as this, is there anything the family can do for you?

;)

Omerta? Does mean anything to you? :mad:

S.T.F.U! Loose Lips... etc :(

MargaretR 02-07-2007 21:37

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I suspect that the person who caused recent havoc has tried get on here again very recently and the mods wiped him off superquick. There was a new member with a ridiculous name who was wiped away within hours.

Sparkologist 02-07-2007 21:59

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 443615)

That ain't no shark! It's a very anaemic looking shrek. It looks like your dyslexia is rearing its head again. :rolleyes:

WillowTheWhisp 02-07-2007 22:09

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I think it's a mafiosa shark from that there film I can't remember the name of.

Sparkologist 02-07-2007 22:11

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 443645)
I think it's a mafiosa shark from that there film I can't remember the name of.

I know the little fella. We found him in Kelly Tarleton's, in Aukland, NZ. :rolleyes:

No, before you ask, Kelly Tarleton's isn't a fish & chip shop. It is the best aquarium in the southern hemisphere.

shillelagh 02-07-2007 22:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sparkologist (Post 443618)
Omerta? Does mean anything to you? :mad:


Its a good book sparks do you want me to lend it to you? :D:D:D

Rosebud 02-07-2007 22:42

Re: Its Good to Talk
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 443645)
I think it's a mafiosa shark from that there film I can't remember the name of.

A Sharks Tale.
Voice provide by Jack Black, Sharks Father's voice- Robert DeNiro


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