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Rosebud · 01-07-2007, 22:17

Saw in another recent thread comment about defending freedom of speech- might not agree with what you say but will fight for your right to say it etc.-
Do people actually believe that this is the case?

LancYorkYankee · 01-07-2007, 22:23

Not me!

Brian

lancsdave · 01-07-2007, 22:26

There is no such thing as freedom of speech, otherwise we wouldn't have laws that prohibit you from saying certain things.

Less · 01-07-2007, 22:27

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Originally Posted by Rosebud

Saw in another recent thread comment about defending freedom of speech- might not agree with what you say but will fight for your right to say it etc.-
Do people actually believe that this is the case?

Why didn't you just quote it and ask that in the thread?

Rosebud · 01-07-2007, 22:32

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Originally Posted by Less

Why didn't you just quote it and ask that in the thread?

Because I saw it yesterday or the day before and now cant seem to find it. I think it might have been Willow but cant be sure.
Why? anyway. Your response seems a little upset by my action of posting a new thread.

cashman · 01-07-2007, 22:33

dont think theres a simple answer to that,though its a simple question! theres many grey areas, also areas where you are not allowed to make critisism, because someone somewhere will accuse you of Bullying/Racisim/Cruelty,etc etc, if people are saying something thats true,i personally have no problem with it, even if its hurtful to me.

Rosebud · 01-07-2007, 22:33

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Originally Posted by lancsdave

There is no such thing as freedom of speech, otherwise we wouldn't have laws that prohibit you from saying certain things.

Does it matter what the certain things are? or should you be able to say ANYTHING to ANYONE

Rosebud · 01-07-2007, 22:35

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Originally Posted by cashman

dont think theres a simple answer to that,though its a simple question! theres many grey areas, also areas where you are not allowed to make critisism, because someone somewhere will accuse you of Bullying/Racisim/Cruelty,etc etc, if people are saying something thats true,i personally have no problem with it, even if its hurtful to me.

But who judges the truth? Especially at the time someone is saying it. Can history be the only judge? More questions tahn answers I appreciate that

lancsdave · 01-07-2007, 22:35

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Originally Posted by Rosebud

or should you be able to say ANYTHING to ANYONE

No you shouldn't be able to say anything to anyone.

WillowTheWhisp · 01-07-2007, 22:40

If you'd quoted it and asked in the original thread somebody would probably have complained that you were going off topic!

I remember somebody saying it recently too but it wasn't me although I have said it in the past.

There is a certain amount of freedom of speech in this country, certainly more so than in some other countries, but even so there are boundaries which we have to consider such as not risking slander or libel.

My personal opinion is that everyone is entitled to their personal opinion and as long as it is discussed in a level headed and civilised manner I will defend anyone's right to have their own opinion even if I disagree with that opinion.

That doesn't mean that I condone people making erroneous statements and claiming them to be fact, or debates which descend via argument into petty namecalling and childish petulence.

Less · 01-07-2007, 22:41

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Originally Posted by Rosebud

Because I saw it yesterday or the day before and now cant seem to find it. I think it might have been Willow but cant be sure.
Why? anyway. Your response seems a little upset by my action of posting a new thread.

Right so you saw it yesterday, but you can't find it today, that has answered my question, why take um bridge? I only wanted to know.

Rosebud · 01-07-2007, 22:45

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Originally Posted by Less

Right so you saw it yesterday, but you can't find it today, that has answered my question, why take um bridge? I only wanted to know.

Apologies I may have read an emotion into your response which was not intended.

Less · 01-07-2007, 22:47

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Originally Posted by Less

Right so you saw it yesterday, but you can't find it today, that has answered my question, why take um bridge? I only wanted to know.

By the way if you had been nice I might have told you how to find that post, but never mind you obviously don't need help!

WillowTheWhisp · 01-07-2007, 22:48

That can happen sometimes on t'internet. Can? lol, often does.

Rosebud · 01-07-2007, 22:48

I think Willow has a point from the perspective of not descending into slander, lible or petty namecalling- BUT- are their topics that might be personal opinion, not slandering anyone for example which should not be given the oxygen of publicity?