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I wonder what Andy Plant thinks of his clock being removed?

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Yes I would be very interested in your idea :)

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And look at our poor old clock there right at the beginning.

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Sorry Willow.. found it on first search and then edited my response before seeing yours... Never mind though others will want the url I am sure...:)

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Do we know

Who owns the clock
Who is responsible for the clock (May or may not be owner)
Who decided to remove it from Arndale
Was there any notice of the removal
Was the people of Accrington asked there views

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All I know is that Andy Plant was there when it was removed and he did the dismantling. I just found that out after I posted the above query as to him knowing about it or not.

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How do you know? Its probably important if he was all for it being removed do you think?

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Maybe this thread is in the wrong place?

I am dissapointed that there hasn't been a whole load of responses to this. I would have thought this kind of thing is exactly what accyweb community could get there teeth into. something we can make a difference with . I think its an excellent suggestion by Atarah ..

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I do agree with you KIPAX, I think the original idea was an attempt to get the local community involved in a local issue that can end positively for once.

However, and risking increased criticism - from my prospective, being out of town limits the input I can give to this situation and also more importantly for me….I think the B***** thing is horrendous. It doesn’t even have a heritage value for me dating from the late 80s as opposed to some of the historic buildings that are under constant threat of irreversible change or destruction…

My biggest problem is I want to support Atarah as an individual in this endeavour, which means that I going to make myself look a little two faced (in the contradictory sense) by supporting the cause.

:bangh8:

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I gotta admit I wouldn't like it in my back garden :)

However when I first moved to Accy it was one of the first things that got noticed and even more so when I found out it opened on the hour.. we took the kids specialy to see this momentous event.. For me its always been a part of Accy...

Its unique (I think?) and its a talking point.. its one of the things people remember when they visit.... love it or hate it..its an accy thing and has been taken away... for a cafe ?

I really do think the people of Accrington should have been consulted and a new home should have been found... If it hasn't been scrapped then I believe people power can get it back... get it soemwhere and hell why not even get it working again?

Or we can sit back and do nothing as seems to be the case for the majority of accyweb users :(

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I didn't come to this website until quite a while after this post was originally made. I found out about the clock being removed only when talking to some of the people who were actually removing it!

If I'd known beforehand then I probably would have given my full support to keeping the clock as it was one of our very few landmarks. Any town that has to label a railway viaduct as a tourist attraction needs all the landmarks it can lay its hands on.

The workmen did say that the clock was being removed and would be repaired and relocated - but no mention of any idea as to where.

Perhaps it isn't too late to ask. Who owns it? Does Hyndburn Council own it or the owners of the Arndale Centre? (too many "owns" in that but I can't be bothered trying to reword it)

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I am more than happy to contact the council / arndale and see what I can find out. However I dont want to do this if someone else (Atarah?) already has?

Obviously its too late to stop it being taken down :) and I doubt we could ahve anyway... But can we get it back up somewhere.. thats the idea and in that case we need to know who owns and who is responsible then we can contact them.

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It wouldn't hurt if you asked the Arndale would it? haven't I read on here somewhere that it's now stored in the basement somewhere? Have you ever been down there? It's a very interesting labyrinth.

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Its unique (I think?) and its a talking point... its one of the things people remember when they visit.... love it or hate it..its an accy thing and has been taken away... for a cafe ?

I’m forced to agree; I also agree that perhaps that the local population should get out of the malaise that seems to have enveloped them and attempt to make a difference.

Hang about – “I’ve been call out to the office” I will return to this subject shortly.

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And now the bad news... It would seem the stories of a possible resurrection may be false thus making this campaign even more important for anyone who cares.

I have just spoken to a contact at the Accy observer who in turn spoke to the other reporters and the Editor. They say as far as they know there are no plans to bring it back anywhere (Lets face it they probably would know) But they very nicely agreed to look into the matter furthur for me... Which I thought was more than good of them...

I am now in the process of contacting the council and the arndale center


yeagh yeagh dont worry... I use a spell checker for important emails :)

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Keep up the good work Kipax. I'm right behind you.

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And I'm further behind....Keep it up Kipax....good work!

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Not long before the clock was removed I showed it to my now wife, and she was impressed. It was working, fine. Also, I am an engineer and that clock would not take much repairing to make it work IF it did fail. I do not believe it failed. Our council cannot be trusted on things like this... Cafe offers money, council say YAY! End of story. Make story up that stupid public accept and believe! As usual public accept and forget... Maybe this website is doing something good and helping people come together where things like the observer fail miserably..? Even though this thread is old and there is another thread somewhere where people offered to help/fix clock but it was all to late because on the day the observer announced it may be going, it had already gone - thats how much the council like to keep us informed... tsk.. spit... etc..

(offtopic, no chance of a link now eh?:))

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I remember it was not working when I went one day specifically to show someone what it did. Presumably as the creataor was in on the dismantling he would be fully aware of any repairs needed or not.

I wonder if it would do any good if we tried to contact him?

(what link?)

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Well said Royski!
I'm sure that between us, there is enough ability and means to get it up and running again, assuming that our duly elected and trusted? council haven't already trashed it.

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I never knew that roy was a radical………excellent. Now I am on side, so what’s next.

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Actually, regarding the Arndale Centre, I seem to remember that a few years ago the council sold it's interest in the building. The figure of £110,000 sticks in my mind for some reason. So I would guess that the people you need to talk to are the buildings owners, you know, the ones who won't allow you to take photographs in there, in case you are an international terrorist intent on destroying Accrington's retail base. Everyone knows, that job is reserved for the council.

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I already contacted Andy Plant.. Am awaiting a response... Same with Council and greg pope (wont hold my breath) Only the Observer so far have shown any interest in helping.

I have only just started :)

But can anyone tell me who owns the Arndale or a contact info for the arndale center?

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I think the Arndale was sold by Hyndburn Council to a property company that had 'Admiral' in their name. It was again sold by them a couple of years back. Sorry to be so vague.
Maybe the Accy Observer can help with their archive.

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There was some mention (many moons ago) and a little debate if i remember rightly, about the observer not giving a link to accweb from there website..

Slightly off topic i know, but i'm up for helping in anyway possible as i pointed out in another thread somewhere..
I'll see if i can find a link for the newer members.

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This may be of no interest but i found the thread from feb when the removal was first mentioned.
http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/s...=arndale+clock

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Just had an email from Andy Plant the guy who made it... Will check to see if I can post it on here.. The jist is that he doesn't know anythign other than there was talk of putting it in the market hal but wasn't hopefull of that happening... Other bits of info... Stay tuned :)


Still need phone number for arndale anyone ?:)


UPDATE: I have a contact name for the arndale from Andy Plant.. But no number:(

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Slightly off topic (but only slightly) I think P&O used to have something to do with the Arndale once didn't they?

Have you let Andy Plant know that his now defunct clock has got a fan club here on AccyWeb?

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Of course.. When asking him if I could copy his email I told him where to:)

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Told him where to what?

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Read my message a little slower :)

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Number for Arndale Centre Manager's office is
01254 301310
fax 01254 301389
:)

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Great stuff...Thanks :)

Will phone him before 10am tommorow and post the outcome tommorow..

In fact will write a letter and fax tonight so he has it first thing..:)

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kipax means were to look (i think ) thats how ive read it willow. BRING BACK THE CLOCK////

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:) I gotcha! You told him where you would be copying it to?

Yes indeedy BRING BACK OUR CLOCK! After all wasn't it bought by the council originally with OUR money?

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Fax just sent to manager at Arndale.

No response from council

No response from our MP Greg Pope

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Personally I cant stand the thing and wouldn't care if I never saw it again, but I applaud you guys for getting up off your arses and standing up for something which you obviously care for.

But has anyone given any thought to where this Satanspawn behemoth would reside should you be successful? The Arndale was locked at night thus preventing vandals and hooligans from defacing said clock and I fear that if placed in the open it would be a matter of days before it bears the legend "Maz is 101% megafit IDT INDT" and other such important juvenile scrawlings.

I'm not trying to pour cold water on the idea because if it was indeed paid for by our money then yes, we should take it back for 'the people'. I would hate it if you were triumphant in your bid only for it to become a homing beacon to docile numbnuts who feel it is their civic duty to inform us that they were "buzzin like a bee, suckin' on a sweet called XTC......"

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I agree it can't be outside.. that would be just plain stupid.. the only option I can think of is when they do refurbish the market hall that it goes in there....

Love it or hate it.. Its ours and IMHO they shouldn't have simply taken it down and put a cafe there in the first place... Personally I would rather see it up and working where people can se it and decide if they like it or not... rather than stuck in a basement never to be seen again.

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I think the Market Hall is a good suggestion, and about the only place where it can be seen and afforded some protection. It would also add a little something to theMarket Hall, especially the inside.

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Forgive me for this, because I haven’t actually seen the place, but what about the Ossy Mills complex...

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no, no, no, keep it in accy please/

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Theres always that bit of land up by the new school at spring Hill. It would be a great attraction for the kids around there...what do you think Mez your up around there somewhere...

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Its a pity there wasn't any action to keep the circular toilet on Union St many moons ago. Now that was an architectural thing of wonder! I wonder which basement that's locked in.....

Just had a thought - why not get Julie Hesmondhailgh as an Honourary Patron of the action group...she must be devastated now that "the townspeople (don't) gather around the clock in the evening to watch it open"!

If it HAS to come back then I would say that it would have to be in the centre of Hyndburn which I suppose is Accrington. Please don't stick it in the Market Hall though - I've always liked going in there.....but if you bring up the idea of bringing the clock back HBC will probably say ok then...and stick the thing on top of the coppice!

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theve built the new springhill school on it doug, cant say im happy, but still//

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The land always belonged to the education authority did it not? The fact that nothing had been built there for years lulls people into a possibly false sense of public ownership. I think Doug may mean the bit which isn't enclosed by the school fence. I'm sure the little angels would love the challenge of trying to climb up it considering they have already managed to climb over the "child proof" fence.

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Sorry willow. I was off thread actually; I was having a jab at Mez who doesn’t appear to want that fine example of modernist art in her own neck of the woods...

Seriously, it needs to be placed in an area of interest and fit in with its surroundings, not an easy task looking at it.

I support KIPAX in his efforts and I agree that this subject needs a change of Thread supported by willows Photographs, so that those that don’t know what we are on about can see the work. A little more support from the membership who lives in the town would also be an advantage should those nice People on the council (who may have an interest in reviewing or monitoring the site) know that it is a serious attempt to rectify the mismanagement of public property.….

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For the record can I ask where the local interest groups are in all this? I mean the likes of the:

Local Historical Society.

Local architectural/arts groups

Conservationists.

Tourism junkies

Heritage Societies/interests groups.

Tealelf…..

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Greg Pope MP is now also on the case. He says he is going to look into it as he also misses the clock.

So we have the Observer and the local MP on the case... No reply from the FAX to the arndale manager...

We might actually get somewhere eh :)

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Not to push my look too far……Can we not get all the interested parties together and push Hyndburn for a heritage centre so that public property of local and national interest can preserved, protected and displayed for all those with an interest in local heritage. Like all those past industries that have gone and left no mark other than those memories, which I might add are going unrecorded and passing into obscurity with each turning year. It as taken 86 years to mark our respects on a town centre memorial to the Pals and the East Lancs. Regiment. How long before will it take us to preserve what little is left. By the way Old Churches make good locations for local interest collections.

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Can the Observer and the local MP also get on the case of the Broadway pavement and the decline of Accy town centre into a commercial ghost town and the state of the towns 'ghetto' areas?!

If you're really serious about all this then may I suggest a petition - and where better place to gather signatures than the clocks original home. You could even get some serious number of names at the gate at Stanley...or even at half time eh?

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Extremely good point....I do believe that a formal get together my be in order to cerement our support for this and other projects of importance as Mr Ceejache makes clear….

Also if we are to sustain this effort some local assistance for KIPAX wouldn’t go a miss…

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Its the clock only... The first step is to find out if there are any plans for it... Then based on that info everyone concerned can express there wishes as to what should be done.. Whats the point in collecting names and having a petition ? What for we dont even know whats happening yet..

This thread is about the clock and above would seem to be a reasonable plan of action to start with.. ie gather info.

If you want to start somehting else then go ahead and start a new thread.. This ones about the clock and anyhting else will just cloud the issue dont you think? lets walk not run :)

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Agreed. If we succeed with this then we can start to look if there's anything else. Mighty oaks and little acorns and all that.

Tongue firmly in cheek - if Cannon St Baptist Church is up for grabs we could all chip in and buy it, turn it into a museum of Accy Antiquity and have the clock in the foyer.

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Fair point my friend and well put…….I do tend to ramble on, but I heard so much about lost heritage and seen little done.

The clock it is….

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Well, I’ll be serious for a change.

Wherever the Arndale Clock is to go, it makes sense that it has to work as it was designed to work; otherwise, it’s just a shiny round thing stuck on top of a pole with no use and of limited artistic merit. For this to happen, it needs to stay in a protective environment, either indoors or outside with a closed protective canopy to exclude the elements. Rain would probably shut the clock mechanism down within a few hours. A closed canopy would destroy the effect, however, so that leaves placing it indoors.

So what place is suitable? The Market Hall is firm favourite….but remember this is a Grade II Listed building….it is highly unlikely that English Heritage would allow a late 20c piece of mechanical pop-art to be re-sited within the environs of this rare surviving, classic Victorian Market Hall…..ditto, the Town Hall.

There’s not much left, is there? The Sports Centre, possibly? Can anyone think of a spot within there that would be suitable? The Globe Centre? No, not after the council has just blown 30 grand on a monument to it’s own stupidity right outside the building.

One place I can think of…..unfortunately, at the moment there’s a pretty horrible, tatty, overpriced café on the spot, charging 2 quid a brew. Would you believe it? And would you believe that some people are daft enough to pay that price as well…all for some brown muck served in a paper cup. Well, maybe if people come to their senses they’ll stop chucking their money away (after all, we’ve got the council to do that for us)…the café will shut….what a perfect place to put a clock!. It’s as though that little dome above was almost designed for the job.

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That’s one hell of a Tongue willow, Lets be careful what we wish for. There is local and European money up for grabs for that very reason. It just takes a reasonable effort led by the local heritage councillor….

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:s_oooo: Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm ?

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I read it dead quick and thought he said buy a church and turn it into a chippy :)

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Obviously a petition would be later on in proceedings in the event that HBC are to do nothing with the clock - a petition now would be pointless I agree. However, if it comes down to people power then a petition gathering 'assault' would be a great way to get the council to realise that there is a lot of support for the idea - and gathering signatures at said places makes so much sense.

It goes without saying that it might not have to come down to that. Once the facts are known then.....thing is I bet HBC, Arndale etc don't have a clue what the facts are!

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Who's he. I thought she was a she.....and a lady at that.

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If the council are serious about encouraging tourism then there should be a town museum. Cannon St. Baptist church would make a perfect location. It is central, Listed, in a conservation area, and also emodies a significant part of the borough's heritage. How many tourists are going to want to come and look at yet another complex of luxury flats?

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Things have obviously changed lot since I lived in the area. The words "Accrington" and "tourism" have never really been synonymous in my mind. Can someone explain how the tourist industry affects Accrington in this day and age, and how tourism was encouraged within the town. I am not aware of any real tourist attractions in the town itself. I would have thought the Ribble Valley was the nearest place of interest to people who have no connection with the area.

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Hyndburn as a tourist destination is, I think one of Mr. Rix's pet projects. He seems to be of the opinion that all we need is a couple of nice hotels and a restaurant or two and the tourists will come flocking in. But as you so rightly point out John, there really isn't an awful lot to look at. And what there is, is so woefully funded, badly managed, and underdeveloped that we might just as well not have it at all. We do have a new piece of sculpture however, it's made out of a piece of an old steam engine and the council are very pleased with that. They must be, they have just forked out £30,000 to have it put in place. So remember to tell all your friends, if they want a truly unique tourism experience they should come to Accrington and have a look at our old cog wheel. An experience they will never forget - no matter how hard they try.

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I always thought the viaduct was supposed to be a tourist attraction.

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There's more than one viaduct in accy........

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There is also one in Burnley which is almost identical. And I believe that there is also one in Whalley, but that is red brick. In any case, all of them pale by comparison with the Ribblehead Viaduct.

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More than one in Accy? I've lived here most of my life and I can only think of the one. Where's the other one?

Burnley's hasn't got a McDonalds next to it or a river and floral roundabout under it has it? It's a pity we don't make more of our river, but I've said that before.

Whalley's viaduct is a different kettle of fish. It doesn't qualify as a 'rival' because it is so different.

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Hyndburn as a tourist destination! God help those with weak bladders when they read that!

Acryllic and John W are painfully correct when they say that there isn't much to look at in Hyndburn. True, the Ribble Valley is only 20 minutes drive away but why would abyone visit there only to have to come back and slum it in a 'hotel' in Accy?

I suggest that Mr.Rix stops wasting our money on 'dead ducks in the water' and takes a good look around at reality. I'm all for making Hyndburn a nicer place to live but this is 'pie-in-the-sky' nonsense I'm afraid.

Why on earth did the cog cost £30,000? It's looks good I have to admit (although it is hardly going to become the backbone of the towns thriving tourism industry) but £30,000?

Any reply from t'Arndale Kipax?

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Willow its about quater of a mile south of Hollins School, just at the end of Priestley Clough.....I can't remember but I think its four or five arches.

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Dissapointing... No reply from Arndale.. It was a fax and it was recieved.. it had my home phone/fax number, email and address on it.

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I shall have to go and have a look. It isn't one of those things no longer there like much of old Accy is it? I was thinking ...... Hollins/Priestley Clough sounds like the old Manchester line long since defunct.

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It’s been a long time Willow and you will probably know where you’re going, but here goes

You can go up Willows Lane, down Miller Fold heading for Nelsons Farm? (Rothwell Mill Farm) Down passed the res then up Priestley Clough: or come from up Woodnook, following what I remember has a fantastic wonderland of trees, bluebells and the fresh clear water of the nook itself. Or you can be boring and take Manchester Road – Hill Street then walk down from there.

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If you are talking about 'Five Arches' mate, it's gone! Demolished about ten years ago.

I know that there is a viaduct across Blackburn Road just before you get to West End and there is another to carry the train and(?) the canal across the motorway near Whitebirk.

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"Who's he. I thought she was a she.....and a lady at that.".............

One of lifes great mysteries, are you talking about the clock Doug?

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I think it was even longer than 10 years when Five Arches was demolished. It is probably nearer twenty years. Even the old Shoe Mill Chimney has gone now. I don't know how long ago that was.

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I was beginning to think must walk with my eyes shut because I've been up there with the dog up to a couple of years ago and didn't see a viaduct. It's been about 2 years since the dog died and I've not been up there since.

If it was part of the old Manchester line that could explain why it's not there.

The bridge across the motorway doesn't qualify as a viaduct.

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viaduct n. 1 a long bridgelike structure, esp. a series of arches, carrying a road or railway across a valley or dip in the ground. 2 such a road or railway. [based on Latin via 'way']

Oxford English Dictionary, Oxford Univeristy Press, London/Oxford 1996

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A bridge built over dry land or over a wide valley and consisting of a number of small spans is usually referred to as a viaduct; the term overpass is applied to relatively short bridges crossing highways and railways.


Is the one referred to near West End a continuation of the railway line?

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Oh now I seem to have started a debate about what constitutes a viaduct! :s_jplol:

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It is, as I recall, a single span arch that allows the railway to cross Blackburn Road.

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That'll be a bridge then I suppose.

You do all realise we aren't half doing a lot of threadwandering here don't you?

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Its been along time Willow. The maps still show it in place.

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Ohh go on then, I'll let you have that one Willow. :)

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Campaign To Keep The Arndale Clock.

KIPAX, I am sorry I started this. I will be over on saturday to photograph the B****** thing. Now can we return this Tread to the point in question.....The Arndale Clock

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Has anyone located the clock's whereabouts yet?

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Under the Arndale in storage As far as I know

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Hi, Andy Plant does have his own website, maybe direct contact with him would answer some of our questions.

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As stated furthur up the thread.. Already spoken to him and recieved a response... Its very bad ettiquete to reply to a thread you havent even taken the time to read you know.

If no response from the arndale today and time permitting I will get in touch by phone and request the info as well as a reason why no response to the fax

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Any news yet Kipax?

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Nope.. didnt get time to phone.. Wifey has had me putting up shelves in the kids bedroom... big buggers they are.... hey and there still up this evening:) Shelves I mean.

Still no feedback from Observer or Greg Pope who both say will look into it.. But I dont expect them to be too quick so I guess patience is the keyword there.

As for the Arndale.. Well I am dissapointed to say the least that they havent responded to my fax.. I will phone them tommorow and politely ask why not:)

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Just phoned the Arndale and the manager himsef answered the phone.. I asked if he had recieved my FAX... He said yes and he has written a letter to me. he says such and suchabody has been on holiday so it hasn't been posted... I should get a letter from him in the next day or so...

Hmm watch this space then :)

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Good luck mate and thank you for making the effort.........

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We have now had a reple from Greg Pope MP

I am guessing the still awaited letter from the Arndale will have much the same information... Yes?


OK lets look at the reply.. "The clock is awaiting repair and restoration" This gives the impression that its in hand. Well having spoken to Andy Plant the creator and the person who they brought in to dissmantle it.. he knows nothing of any restoration or repair work... Surely given that they got him to dissmantle it then they would get him to fix it? So I aint too sure I like that answer..

Arndale have offered it to the council who havent replied? Looks like the trail stops at the council door.. But there are so many departmens it would be hit and miss contacting them... Thus I have replied to Greg Pope asking if he knows... However one of the questions I asked the arndale manager in my fax was..If he cant provide answers then can he point me in the right direction.. Surely if the Arndale have offered it to the council then they will know what department.

So awaiting the letter from arndale.. presumably tommorow.. after that the next step is o find out what department of the council is dealing with this and contact them

All agreed??

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Wow! An instant reply from greg Pope who has provided me with full contact details for the people at the council.. He has also offered to write to them about the clock...

Greg Pope is starting to get a bit of a thumbs up from me.. considering I aint been his biggest fan :)

Re: Campaign To Keep The Arndale Clock
 

Sounds like the right way to go to me "K"!

Re: Campaign To Keep The Arndale Clock
 

OK I have now written to the appropriate person at the council who has been offered the clock.. ..I have used FAX as its as good as a letter. arrives instantly and doesnt get lost in the post :)

I have outlined our concerns and what action has been taken so far.. who we have contact etc... This along wiht the letter he gets off Greg Pope should get us an answer somewhere along the lines..... I wont be happy with an answer like we are thinking about it....... I would prefer something more solid ... agreed?

So its back to waiitng for a response from the councill..

Wonder what happened to the Observer?

Re: Campaign To Keep The Arndale Clock
 

This is a reply from the Arndale manager.. It answers the question once and for all as to who owns the clck. It also backs up the info from Greg Pope...

What it also hints at is that it could all boil down to a simple case of nowhere to put it.:(

But we need to find out what the nice man from the council says first... If as I fear he replies wiht nowhere to put it then we need to start another thread asking for suggestions and see what we as a collective can come up with... But its a waste of time doing that now if the council do ahve a plan...

Next step wait for council reply. Agreed?

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Re: Campaign To Keep The Arndale Clock
 

Well K your persistance is paying off and you are getting the replies. Let's hope someone can come up with a good suggestion for the new location. Is there nowhere in the Town Hall it could be sited?