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Don't recall seeing it mentioned on here but Tesco are planning to build a new store on Eagle St.

Apparently you can go and see the plans at the Town Hall from today and let them know what you think. I think that might appeal to some on here but I'm not sure Tesco's will welcome their views :D

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The bus station will be next to the rail station and Tesco will be near both -makes sense to me - gives shoppers without cars better access to a supermarket

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we shall see, if theres a garage will save trailing to blackburn.:)

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whats going on with the tesco in great harwood?

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So i heard lancsyboy thats part of the plans too

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I heard about this, as Willow said, ages and ages ago. I thought that it wasn't going ahead on Eagle Street now, and they were just building the one in Great Harwood. It doesn't bother me in the slightest, won't have to trek to Haslingden if theres some clothes that I like. Theres already the Tesco Express petrol station next to The Swan pub isn't there?

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heard about this a while back but didnt know wether it was gonna be a morrisons or sainsburys or tesco.
so it looks like tesco...hope its not like the one in blackburn, went there the other day and they didnt have half the stuff i wanted!!
asda has more choice im afraid!:(
would have prefered something else.

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There is a tesco in Rawtenstall as well - and that as petrol. Its the old asda on bocholt way. Tesco's taking over - 3 tesco's already within 10 miles and a new one on Eagle Street.

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emmm wonder if they will stick a petrol station too,? doubt it though, they wouldnt let asda do it!

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i live near tesco in Blackburn...AND I HATE IT

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not just me then:rolleyes:

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How many supermarkets does a town need? Seems that they need at least 3 to me.

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we have, 2 tesco's, morrisons, asda, lidl, aldi, netto and several tesco metro's...oh and iceland if ya wanna count that too

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Thats just greed. :eek:

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whos the 3?
i only know of asda;)

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Lol :D I was generalising.

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Wev'e only got one worth mentioning and that is Asda. They can keep Netto, Lidl and Aldi as far as I'm concerned they are rubbish IMHO!!

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Well I have an Asda a Tesco Metro Spar Mini Markets. In Falkirk its Co op 2 Tesco an Asda Morrisons Aldi 4 Spar Minimarkets and one I cant remember. :o

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i wouldnt really class aldi or lidl as supermarkets, and as for netto.......no comment!

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give asda a run for their money as its always has empty shelves:rolleyes:

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not a big tesco shopper but love the idea of having a tesco petrol station in Great Harwood :D Plus a tesco's has to be better than the co-op!!!

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Maybe HR but what about he small shops in Harwood like Townsends and the new bookshop, bet they are over the moon about it.

Personally I'm not bothered if it doesn't get built, it's hardly a massive trek to go to Asda in Accy or Tesco in Blackburn is it?

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Ahhh note that I was talking more about the petrol station and also that I prefer tesco to co-op...as I work in blackburn unfortunately I don't get to shop in the smaller shops in harwood except for the occasional sat pm if I'm not at footy or catching up with other stuff, so it is very rare!!!

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i will still shop at asda, i just don't like tesco, ive tried shopping in many a one but don't like it ..so i will stay with asda...(i know boring :rolleyes:)

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nowt wrong with asda mez;)

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The only good thing about Tesco is the Clubcard points scheme is probably the best of all the retail points schemes. Shame you have to shop there to get them :D

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You don't Dave, you can get them all over :D (Powergen, National Tyres etc)

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Sticking another supermarket in the town centre will be the final nail in the coffin for whatever small shops and stalls are left in/on the market. But if it is to be done, why oh why does it have to be Tesco? They are only marginally better than ASDA or Morrisons. Could Booths - or even Waitrose - not be tempted to come to Accy? At least the local consumer would then have the choice of forking out money on rubbish or quality.

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A Booths would be great Tealeaf; but it's the old demographics problem again; whereas the folk in Clitheroe can afford to shop at Booth's the majority of Accringtonians can't. We don't have the disposable income in Accy for nice shops !

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Tealeaf I work at booths main warehouse at Preston as a driver on the artic lorries. I know they have no plans for a supermarket in accy ' very sorry!

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it brings nearly 500 jobs to the area - is that such a bad thing..

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It won't come off there is only room for so many in town and plenty we already have, Something need's doing with the site, this thread was raised before, came to nothingTesco have been trying to get in at Gt Harwood for ages without success. They must not be throwing enough 'confetti ' about.

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It says in the Observer that it will be built on stilts, with room for 600 cars. Now if you say it will be half full most of the time, thats 300 extra cars say per hour on Paradise Street together with the extra traffic coming to and from the new Health Centre and all the cars of the residents of Waterside Accrington ; I personally don`t think the road can take it, especially at the junction of Eagle Street and Blackburn Road.:eek:

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Because there are very few residents in the area traffic is the last thing the planners consider. Eagle Street is already on the main drag through Accrington but lets face it with so few residents to object it is unlikely that planning permission will be turned down.:(

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This is a pity they do some really nice stuff,i can remember years ago my dad used to go to Booth's for a bottle of "Tanzaro ginger" it was a cordial drink and it was really good.:)

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Absolutely! If this is allowed we will end up with more closing shops; more job losses, even less of a community that we have.

Why can't we achieve this through a market of individual retailers? All we need is to encourage a wider broad of market stalls which cater for the majority of peoples shops. Heck we could go all out and create a new supermarket right there on eagle street, but why not have a load of independant retailers inside it?

People might go wild at Tesco apparently cheap prices but half the time its nonsense. Look at what you're paying for, is it the same quantity as you can get on our market? I know theres washing up powder that you can get at Supermarkets that seems cheap, its actually got less quantity in the box than whats sold on our market and the market price is cheaper! So not only will you benefit but you'll stop feeding the (Let me turn in to Jambutty for a second) fatcats on the executive board at Tesco.

One of the main reasons I am against socialism is state monopolys, well capitalist monopolys are NO BETTER! I don't want to find every town with a blood Tescos in and nothing else because everywhere else has closed down. You don't get a community feel in such a place, you might see an odd friend now and then, but lets face it its just not the same as going to your local market stall where theres choice and vareity, not to mention good quality goods!

We already know they're a bit of a con. Like when Asda did really really cheap roses at valentines day, they were clearly making a HUGE loss but did it to get shoppers in, because they'll make it up on the other items, which means you're getting taken to the cleaners on mystery items. Not to mention the valentines day thing was just a complete gimick as they ran out REALLY early on, so people had to buy more expensive, lower quality than the market, flowers.

To sum my rant up, it might be a simple and convenient way to shop, but do we really need one in our town center? Would you really want to see our market even more empty, even more charity and pound shops? We've already lost a book store to the supermarkets and now you have VERY little choice. The music shops have gone too.. ok that could be due to piracy but worldwide record sales don't suggest it is. But do you have a huge choice in Asda? No.

It would be such a shame if we were limited to buying certain things in our own town, instead having to shop online or go elsewhere.

We're only small, we don't need a supermarket in our center. Fight it.

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Don't forget everytime you spend a pound in Tesco's some of it will make it's way into the pocket of Dame Shirley Porter, even though she claimed when she was supposed to pay £27,000,000 in court costs, that she only had £300,000 worth of assests.

Shirley Porter - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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We still have such things as communities ? People are afraid to go out of their houses at certain times and in certain places.

Do the independent retailers and market traders actually open the hours that the public want them to open ?

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You could say people are scared to go out of their houses, but why don't we rebuild that community feel rather than individualism. (Did I really just say that Garinda? :p)

I can appreciate that out of town supermarkets are good for people who work 7days a week 9-5 and whos partners (if they have one) also work the same. Not everyone works like that though and its those people im trying to get to :)

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Go on then ,lets check out your credentials as a future leader and see how you would do it :)

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Andrew Hosken (see: Further reading) Nicholas Lezard described her as "...the most corrupt British political figure in living memory, with the possible exception of Robert Maxwell. " [1]. She retired to Israel in 1993 during the inquiry, and lived in self-imposed exile until 2006."Good grief Gary, thank's for the info, just to be mentioned in the same breath as the 'bouncing Chech' is bad enough, spend nowt with them".

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What compensation is available and how do I claim it?

Bernie -You might get some compen

"People whose property suffers a loss in value due to the operation of a nearby scheme, may also be able to claim compensation. "

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We will have to wait and see if and when it is built.

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I had a chat with one of the Tesco blokes in the Town Hall today. They are expecting about 500 cars an hour to use the store. I pointed out the problems that would occur at the Eagle Street/ Blackburn Road junction and he said they were looking to widen the junction. Short of removing the pavements I can`t see how they`d do it. And everyone who uses that road now knows how congested it is. Thank Gawd I`m a pedestrian!

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I was just trying to work out if they could perhaps have an entrance round near the Globe Centre. Don't know if that is feasible I will have a walk round tomorrow see if it could be done. As for widening the junction can't see how they can do that. It is all supposition at the moment we will just have to wait and see!!!

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Isn't this what Arndale centres are meant to be Cyfr? If they are not attracting them, then surely your Utopia suggestion is not going to either.

Could attract more visitors to the centre, however, if their parking is restricted to customers and fines for long stay, as it is so near to the town centre, then nobody is going to move to try and find a further parking space within town .. they will just go home.

Believe me, if Tesco want it, they will get .. as mentioned before, they are the bullies of the Planning world.

Hardly go myself now, I feel Asda and Sainsburys offer much better fresh foods, meats, etc., (including micro-waves :D) these days

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Bernie - You wont need home delivery - be able to nip in wearing your slippers :D

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Was thinking that the other day but having read the comments on here a lot of people don't rate Tesco. Must admit I like Asda but once again will have to wait and see.;)

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Just see what happens in Gt. Harwood, even if isn't necessary for a super store, I will eat my thongs if you don't see it going up within the next 6 months. :D

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It won't bother me, gypsies won't be able to park up anymore:D But really you get used to the noise and the traffic. Imagine what it was like when the steam trains were firing up, it must be quiet now compared to then!!!:)

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Big business always wins. Tesco gets what Tesco wants. The Superstore is as good as built. Two huge supermarkets in our town only means depriving the established shops and businesses even more. All the Sole-traders will have to trade their souls and apply for a McJob at Tesco.

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Well Kate start eating your thongs:pNothing happening across the way in fact the gypsy caravan is still there;)

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nowt seems to be happening in great harwood either :confused:

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Wonder if they have been knocked back!! Still want to see you eating your thongs Kate:tongueout

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we have been going to tesco since we moved to blackburn last week we went to asda for a change could not believe the difference in price of the weekly shop we spend around £110 normaly at asda we spent £85 the meat and fruit are much cheaper and better quality goodbye tesco!

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Do you think they will taste better with chips or roast potatoes Bernie ? :D:D

I actually meant the Great Harwood Tesco, (which has now planning permission) as realised Accy would take longer to get through.

Unfortunately, threw out my thongs a few weeks ago due to bedroom make over ... can't stand 'em. :eek:

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Looks like plans for the tesco in accy have been submitted.....
http://www.lancashireeveningtelegrap..._submitted.php

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Maybe the council will stipulate that they have to follow the same rules ofr planning permission as all other new shops in Accy, everything must cost a pound :)

Why are Sainsbury's objecting ?

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Fantastic news, Why should we have to trail to Burnley, Bury or even Rawtenstall when there will be a Tesco on our doorstep? Thumbs up for this idea. Let's put Accrington on the map for modernised shopping once and for all.

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Because the town centre masterplan has a Sainsbury's on it. It's a bit hard to describe but the entrance to the Arndale carpark will be brought out and a Sainsbury's built on top. The viaduct roundabout will not be a roundabout anymore - no, too complicated to explain best go look at the plans.

Anyway, the point is that Sainsbury's are on the plans so presumably there is an element of commitment for them to come into the town at some point - a Tesco could spoil their plans I guess.

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See the plans have been approved for the Accrington store don't think anybody will be surprised!!!

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I live 25 miles from my nearest supermarket and its great.Only have to go once a month to stock up and then use local outlets for milk and fruit and veg.The meat is loads better t the butcher and we know the farms where it has come from.Took abit of getting used to as I used to live 5mins from all the big ones.
The only downside is the price of petrol locally.

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Tesco have an excellent online delivery service.
It may well work out cheaper for you.
If you are organised enough to shop monthly you are likely to benefit from free deliveries
http://www.shoppingcodes.co.uk/tesco_voucher_codes.asp
http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/...702329&page=31

PS - they do deliver to remote locations - my cousin who lives on the edge of a cliff in S Wales uses them :D

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Kate...I have a better idea...burn them and then put the ash into a double brandy...with mixer if preferred and then down the hatch.

Sorry, just got to the bit where it says you've thrown them out...it'll have to be bloomers then :D

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Hi,thanks,I know that tescos deliver out here as my friends use them.I usually tie going with every thing else that needs doing.
Fab living on the edge of a cliff tho :D do ejoy the dales and big hills.
HAven't been to Accrington yet wat are the shops like generally :rolleyes:besides having all the supermarkets

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Wonder how long it will take them to build it?

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It says in the Observer it might be open for next Summer.

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Once it opens the town will be even deader than it is now and the "names" that we still have like New Look, Marks and in all probability a good few more will have shut shop and left, not to mention what it will do to the remaining market hall.
The Sainsbury's plan would have at least kept shoppers in the town centre, this will just kill it stone dead.
:(

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This is terrible news, that area of town is already a traffic nightmare at rush hour, imagine how this will be with all the construction traffic, never mind the thousands of shoppers flocking there when the store is built.

Surely an out of town site would be better, people would still use the store the same, but it would reduce the impact on the town center traffic and trade.

I wonder if the scheme would have been given the backing had the fat wallet of Tesco not dangled the best part of £1million in the councils face.

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Like hell it would....................;)

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well I for one am glad its being built, as I have said before - 450 people will gain a job from it - surely that cannot be a bad thing?

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Depends on how many in the existing town centre will lose their jobs.
Don't get me wrong, I shop at Tesco but it isn't what Accy needs right now. The established retailers are dying on their feet now, it will finish loads of them off,I know it's healthy to have competition but not when they can undercut you to the extent that tesco can because of their huge buying power, if I had to take a guess I would say it will finish off WH Smith, Iceland,New Look, poss Woolies and poss even Boots because they will take a huge share of the market and no doubt open a 100 hour pharmacy.

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I wonder what is classed as the town centre? I would have thought that Eagle St did qualify as town centre so should be part of the town centre masterplan.

If so, then it's hopefully part of a wider plan that incorporates the whole regeneration of the town.

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it may be the case that some of the workers will leave their jobs to go work at tesco rather than lose them at their present employers - should they cut staff numbers, retail is a dog eat dog world, having worked in it previously for 14 years at a high level I am glad I am out of it, alot of bitching, backstabbing and brown nosing where companys dont care who leaves or who they sack..and shops like wh smith and iceland will all have their own loyal shoppers..who still goes to iceland even though asda is along the road?..plenty of folk given the queues in it at the weekend...all these shops offer different deals on things so you will shop about - tesco will be the same..

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I know it's not being classed as an "edge of town" store but it's not exactly central to the shopping centre as it is, whereas the Arndale masterplan would have kept the retail area together.

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It wasn't just an Arndale masterplan was it? I thought it extended beyond that - can't quite remember how far now and I can't find it on the Hyndburn BC site.

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I'l bet 400 of them jobs will be part time. Britcliffe's mob have been bamboozled again by big numbers being bandied about, firms like Tesco and Asda prefer part timers, they cost less to employ than full timers.
Retlaw.

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I have just joined the website to take a look at how the response to the "new tesco in accy" is. I have to say in my opinion the planning was signed sealed and delivered well before the vote. How are local planners can say this is ok is beyond me and my friends who are also local retailers.Has anyone thought of the amount of traffic that Blackburn Road and Eagle Street will have to contend with 4,500 extra vehicles they say! Per day. PLUS 15 , 45 foot lorries in 24 hours + Home deliver Vehicles.
Oh Plus the buses from the new proposed Bus station in a couple of years.
They say the delivery vehicles will be coming in at quieter times and not up Eagle street! We will see.Then there is the pedestrian safety issue!

As a family retailer who has been in Accrington for over 30 years (and as a family established over 60 years) I know it will devastate the local shopping / retail community. It’s ok saying about competition etc but we can not compete with the council backing these plans like a bunch of sheep. It will hit Pharmacies, Newsagents, White goods, Off licences, Cafés, Clothing shops, Florists, Book shops, PC Accessories and many others. No decent retailer will be encouraged to establish in the town centre. The Hyrnburn Chamber of Trade and BWD council + others, fought hard and long to see off Peel Holdings on the Whitebirk planning even when they were advised that the Peel holdings team would rip them apart at an appeal hearing, they were stead fast and won the appeal. But this planning in my opinion seemed to be already decided , the 106 agreement will help ease the council’s conscience on this no doubt. In my opinion having taken part in the objections and application process it is a complete white wash from the council and it’s officers. As for how many jobs it will bring to the town, this is a small amount in comparison to how many families and parts of the community it will effect in job losses and business closures.Market Hall refirbishment it's a laugh!
I am thinking of collecting a petition to ask our local MP and the Government inspectorate to look into the Planning for this Tesco and raise a further objection as it is not over yet. Don't hink just because it's been passed it can not be revoked, it can but only at goverment level.If any one is happy to sign it please let me know and I will arrange a weekend very soon to get signatures in the town centre or Market Hall. I won’t hold my breath with some but I will hope others will see that this is not a good thing for the Town and surrounding areas. On the traffic alone it will be a nightmare. PEOPLE OF ACCY,Hyndburn and surrounding areas,once it’s here it’s here we have to act FAST.
Ps it is just on the other side of the conservation and town centre bounderies so thats how it managed to slip in. Whats that smell??

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With all due respect I think most people would love to see the town centre survive and flourish without Tesco's. However even before Tesco's submitted the plans shops were closing down left, right and centre. It's a standing joke that Accrington is a town full of pound shops and charity shops.

What were the plans from the local chamber of trade to change this trend ? I know from recent enquiries that the price of opening a shop in Accrington is way too high. There is no help for new businesses to have a go which would probably have been the best incentive going to give the town some life.

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Despite peoples protests about Tesco opening a store like lancsdave said Accrington isn't exactly thriving as a place to shop and this could be the thing to bring people back to our town and drag us back up again.
And yes the majority of jobs will probably be part time but any jobs created are better than nothing surely?

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You've got to weigh it up against how many small / family businesses will fold though.

Some people will lose their livelihood and a part time job at Tesco can't replace that. :(

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I know what you are saying but unfortunately you can't stop progress and thats what this is for accy.
If the businesses are well established with many regular customers i can't see them being that affected by it,supermarkets have opened all over the place and it can't have done too much damage surely or i would have thought there would be more of an uproar about it.

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I know some people on here have said how good Burnley is as a shopping town. The building of Tesco's there has actually helped because people nip in for a pint of milk and use the free car park for a couple of hours while they go in to town and shop :D

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much as it sticks in me throat to say it- BURNLEY is a much better shopping centre than whats left of our once thriving town, n i for one don't think tesco will make much differance to what remains, it didn't seem to do to the dingles, feel sorry for the few long established traders who remain, but the problem was here before tesco was ever thought of,n is noway tescos fault.there is no incentive fer any NEW established business to move into our town, n unless things change Dramatically it aint gonna happen,not being disrespectful dintymc but get a dose of reality.

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yes i must agree with glasgow guy it will give more job,s

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And I was one of them beats both Accrington and Blackburn at the moment IMO

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Or to watch a footy match:D

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When you look at Bury market, one of teh best and busiest in the country, right opposite a HUGE ASDA. so where is the proof that supermarkets kill small stalls?

People will still shop on teh market as long as teh quality and prices are reasonable. I fidn B&E's in town are often cheaper than ASDA or TESCO for lots of things. The meat on teh butchers is better, the veg fresher and far more choice of fish.

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whats B&E's????

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A stall on the market, In teh market hall, selld cleaning stuff.

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agree i get me veg n various bits from the market fer that reason, n i always use n independent butcher, though i go up ossy fer that n its further for me, but i prefer the meat.supermarkets have a place in my life, but they aint the B all n end all.

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I am on the Planning Committee. I am in general anti-supermarket but like many, my reluctance seems to wane when I need to get a weekly shop after finishing work.

The reasons for voting for it were not obvious but were very important. Two major reasons. Firstly losing an appeal of that magnitude may have cost around £100,000. Money which could spent elsewhere. The Highways authority said following the implementation of road improvements and a SCOOT system they would not support an appeal on Highways grounds leaving the Council high and dry at appeal.

More significantly the sequential test. This site was the only 90,000 sq ft site and if it had been rejected, Tesco's would have had a good case to locate even further out of town which would have be the same problem but magnified. As it stood now a 90,000 sq ft site was suitable preventing Tesco's locating out of town. Asda is massively over trading and with one major supermarket, Tesco's would also have had a strong case on appeal for competition.

On the Highways I am sceptical like everyone else. What put me off was the critics of Whitebirk who said it was lunacy. I have found it to be an incredible engineering and traffic management feat how 500 yard tailbacks have been reduced at peak, to less than a 100 at all the junctions. THe emotional arguments with no evidence then, as now was a worry because LCC had demonstrated to me anyway that they have the ability and they were the only contributors who had been on site and actually took measurements and presented them.

Objectors stated this would bring 30,000 cars a week into the town centre. As one Councillor commented "Do you expect Councillors to turn away 30,000 cars when the town is dying?"

Both sides (Tesco's/objectors) came with little evidence. In fact I think Tesco's could see the advantages of having it turned down. The only evidence was provided by 3 independent impact studies. LCC Highways, Whyte and Young and (slips my mind this late in the evening).

They reported that ASDA was overtrading hugely. That £98m per annum was being spent in supermarkets outside Hyndburn. Several objectors said they used Burnley's Tesco when arguing that they did not leave Tesco's to shop in Burnley Town Centre. Clearly we need to attract these people back to Hyndburn. That the leakage of people from the Supermarket to also shop elsewhere ie the number of people who will use the TC from Tesco's car park will be around 3%. That's 900 cars a week.

The Arndale proposition was weak. 30,000 sq feet is available with demolition of the car park but Tesco's would refuse that as too small (though they do locate their smallest at 30,000) given the healthy monopoly ASDA have in the town. Tesco's clearly wanted a big slice of the cake, not a little one. In town, out of town, Matalan, Hyndburn Rd, Arnold Clark, anywhere... In did not help 14 months ago when Arndale said they were close to a deal with major retailers, plans were imminent for Arndale expansion (into the car park) in opposing Peel Holdings development at Whitebirk. Once Peel Holdings were turned down, Arndale plans simply disappeared. Suggestions this time that Sainsbury's were ready as part of a new development, lacking any evidence, were viewed critically for lacking substance.

Highways stated there would be an increase in traffic. They said they had measured traffic levels and it was congested for less than an hour and an improved traffic system, SCOOT et al, would see traffic levels rise but not to unmanageable levels. Tesco's, not wishing to add time to deliveries have scheduled them in for non peak times. I am concerned about articulated wagons and the restricted space at the bottom of Eagle St.

Tesco's also spent a long period haggling with Council over impact money (106 monies) and design details. Normally they face away from town centres and are cheapish build. In this case it will be a flagship design for them, facing Cannon St. They will contribute £1.3m to the Bus and rail Station. £400k will go towards TC improvements between Tesco's and the Town Hall. The car parking spaces, which are nearrer to Town then some of the Council's own spaces, will offset the loss of spaces behind Kwik Save and will be free to use for people justw ishing to shop in town. £1.3m is a substantial amount.

Tesco's also backed down on it's employment practices too. 2/3rds must come from within the Borough and there is some extra small print about having to target jobless. Normally it's a 1/3rd.

I am very concerned about the traffic, but I am not an expert. I know it is becoming increasingly likely that Blackburn Rd will be opened up under restrictions to ease the flow up Eagle St. Another factor as well as helping clear Peel St as part of improving accessibility, parking, desirability of the Market Hall.

In the end only a kamikaze pilot would have turned it down because it was unwinable (with a costly defeat in prospect). In an ideal world we should be able to say no to almost anything and not have to be held to account by people (or big business) outside of the Borough. That would be true democracy but no party has (or is currently) in favour of that.

Re: New Tesco Store
 

I live on Eagle Street and can assure you there will be problems with traffic. It is horrendous now but did think that as Tesco were taking the whole site some of the traffic could maybe be rerouted and maybe have an entrance/exit round by the Globe Centre. I hope that there is some alternative way of geting traffic on and off the site!!