Originally Posted by blazey (Post 537824)

Everyone loves the Conservative Party really, and that's why I don't understand why people vote for Labour.

You all rant about wanting the death penalty back, but at some point when the death penalty DID exist, people must've WANTED a change and voted for someone else, otherwise the Tories would've kept things how they where.

People whinge about change and then vote Labour, and as it gets worse and worse, you just keep on voting for them and wondering what is happening to society. Well Labour is what happened, and to be quite frank they were a load of crap in the beginning and they just get worse and worse every year.

David Cameron at least looks alright, Gordon Brown can't even speak properly, he just mumbles and someone interprets it afterwards... and then you wonder what has gone wrong... well its Labour that have gone wrong.

Originally Posted by panther (Post 537858)

Labour have been into power for over 10 years blazey, ya was only bloody 8/9 years old when they did, how do ya know conservative will be better:rolleyes:......like all the politcians...everything that comes out of there gob is utter ****!!....so conservatives are as bloody BAD

Originally Posted by shillelagh (Post 538127)

who took notice of politics at the age of 8/9

Originally Posted by blazey (Post 537824)

Everyone loves the Conservative Party really,

Originally Posted by claytonender (Post 538261)

Maybe Blazey would like to explain David Cameron's pledge to end Housing Market Renewal as per the Telegraph on Monday 25 February.
We Would Get Rid Of Elevate Hints Cameron (from Lancashire Telegraph)

This smacks of back to Maggie Thatcher, no investment in East Lancashire.

There is a very good anti Tory slogan on Facebook, but unfortunately it is not printable on here. It reminds people what they did to the ordinary working man and woman in this country in their 18 years of rule and that they will do it again, if they get back into power.

Do you really want to go back to the Thatcher years?

In May 1955 (when I was 9) there was a general election. I asked my dad what each party stood for and the differences between them. He explained the differences to me - and said that I should always remember that the Torys were only interested in peopel with money and that there would only ever be one party for the working man, and that was Labour. I have always remembered this and knew that once I got the vote (which was at 21), I would vote Labour and have always done so.

Originally Posted by Cyfr (Post 538332)

If you read it he says it simply needs looking at on a case by case basis. Personally I think elevate is a enormous waste of money. It costs so much more to demolish buildings only to rebuild them with lower quality materials which won't stand the test of time. It's much cheaper to simply completely redo the insides and repair the existing house.

I don't think its the right idea to stick with a party because of what they were like in 1955. In the same way that I don't think people should not vote for a party because of what they did in the 1980's. If you think New Labour are for the working man, you're rather misguided. The wealth gap is the biggest in 40 years. Both parties are gunning for the middle class, because that's where all the votes are.

We don't need another Thatcher, because times aren't as extreme, our economy isn't falling over, we're not at the mercy of unelected trade unions. People talk about Europe taking the sovereignty of parliament, well back before Thatcher the Unions were taking the sovereignty of parliament. Most of the workers didn't even want to strike, they were forced to.

How about when she allowed everyone to buy their OWN house by purchasing the council house they lived in for cheaper than market value? Is this not for the working man?

Is our country not reaping the benefits of her reforms? Have we not just had 16 years of uninterrupted economic growth? Are you not living remarkably better off than 30 years ago?

She did what was necessary to turn our country around, something Labour couldn't do whilst being crippled by the unions and it's socialist unworkable policy, which I remind you gave Thatcher her biggest landslide victory. You need a strong economy, because you can redistribute the wealth to those who need it. She wouldn't be needed in the current age, thats why Cameron isn't a Thatcherite.

Originally Posted by claytonender (Post 538339)

I know that all your opinions are gained from reading etc, as you did not live throught he Thatcher years, I am speaking as one who did and was made redundant twice.

So what about the hugh profits the privatised industries (Tory Policy) are making? The ridculous increases in gas and electricity prices are hitting the most vunerable members of our society most.

Originally Posted by claytonender (Post 538339)

So what about the hugh profits the privatised industries (Tory Policy) are making? The ridculous increases in gas and electricity prices are hitting the most vunerable members of our society most.

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 538344)

Totally agree, so could you tell us what the present Labour government are doing about it? Yes, it was Tory policy, but the "party for the working man" are doing a remarkably good job in perpetuating that policy!