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Bonnyboy 08-03-2008 21:37

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Originally Posted by emamum23 (Post 542837)
omg i agree with something Blazey said.... has hell frozen over??

It reads to me that cashy said it in post #16...it's the system that is at fault

lancsdave 08-03-2008 21:43

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Originally Posted by blazey (Post 542707)
I'm not going to reply again


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Today 22:11blazeyRe: child benefits for Poles
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Originally Posted by Yolanda25 http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/i...s/viewpost.gif
Trust me blazey you will care when u work and u realise that people that dont leave on uk are getting money, this is nothing about ur fundings for university is about us taxpayers complaining about polish people getting money for people who dont live in uk
Like i said before, if i moved to spain i would not have the cheek to claim benefits from another country


If some of the people on the forum had it their way you would never have been allowed into this country. I imagine you would send money to your children if they couldn't live with you in the country?

If it was a case of people working here and sending money to independent people in the country then I may care, but its to children. Why does money have to stay within a country?

We pay tax to help needier people like the ill, the disabled, the homeless, why not to help people in other countries too?

I'm 19 so tax has always been around as far as I can remember, so obviously I'm not going to feel hard done by about where the money goes, it's always been misused. As for people saying 'well wait until you work', well I have worked, and I've paid tax, and I still don't care, because at the end of the day, i'm claiming more than any polish person is for their children back home, so it's being put to good use for me AS WELL.

Blame the government, but don't spite someone just because they're claiming something for their family that they're entitled to.
Oh well, good job you didn't make a promise :)

blazey 08-03-2008 21:43

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Originally Posted by Bonnyboy (Post 542840)
It reads to me that cashy said it in post #16...it's the system that is at fault

Well damn me to hell for having the same opinion as someone else... after all I have only been repeating the same point the entire time and only managed to make it clear that final time :rolleyes:

:dflam:

blazey 08-03-2008 21:44

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Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 542843)
Oh well, good job you didn't make a promise :)

well I had something to clarify. this forum does really annoy me and there are many times I have considered leaving but I was asked to stay and not let the idiots get me down, so stay I will.

What's your opinion on the issue? Do you have one or did you join in just to take a stab at me?

lancsdave 08-03-2008 21:46

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Originally Posted by blazey (Post 542845)
What's your opinion on the issue? Do you have one or did you join in just to take a stab at me?


I have to have something to make me laugh otherwise it would be a dull life ;)

Neil 08-03-2008 23:24

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Originally Posted by blazey (Post 542680)
Would you be bitter if it went to Africa? They don't contribute AT ALL to our system, yet I don't think many people would care about throwing money at them? I think most people would be in uproar if I complained about sending money to charities in third world countries


Why not start a thread on it and find out then.

I for one don't think we should send a penny abroad to anywhere at the moment.

blazey 09-03-2008 00:12

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 542877)
Why not start a thread on it and find out then.

I for one don't think we should send a penny abroad to anywhere at the moment.

I'm not really interested because I cant be bothered giving an opinion on Africa. It was just an example of a situation where money is spent on foreign countries that gives no benefit back to us

cherokee 09-03-2008 00:30

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This is just same old same old.
As Ive said before nothing will ever change until us the British public make a stand against a tin pot government that lets all and sundry drain our resorces.
Ive nothing against poles but i do have a gripe against them or anyone else coming and claiming what is rigtfully ours and should be used to benefit our own.
This government is too quick too support the dregs of other countries leading to poverty of our own . its time to get a grip IMO.

blazey 09-03-2008 02:39

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Originally Posted by cherokee (Post 542892)
This is just same old same old.
As Ive said before nothing will ever change until us the British public make a stand against a tin pot government that lets all and sundry drain our resorces.
Ive nothing against poles but i do have a gripe against them or anyone else coming and claiming what is rigtfully ours and should be used to benefit our own.
This government is too quick too support the dregs of other countries leading to poverty of our own . its time to get a grip IMO.

I have a question to put to you.

Not all soldiers in the British Army are actually british, there are men from all different nationalities. If two men, one british born, and one polish soldier, where both fighting as british soldiers where injured in battle, say they lost limbs and had to be brought back home, to Britain, would you think only the british born soldier is entitled to compensation and disability pay?

Because technically, the polish soldier would be working in the country just as any other polish worker, and then if injured he'd claim from our benefit system, which is 'claiming what is rightfully ours', just like the Polish workers who are claiming child benefit... which I should add is RIGHTFULLY theirs too.

So would you support a polish soldier then? Or would he be just as much a burden as these other workers?

Neil 09-03-2008 02:46

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How many Polish are in our armed forces these days, its not 1942 you know.

Neil 09-03-2008 02:49

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After a quick google the only thing I can find out about Polish in the British army is they use it to clean their boots :confused:

blazey 09-03-2008 03:01

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It was an example, i dont know if there are any polish people in the british army but there certainly are many other nationalities!

steeljack 09-03-2008 03:02

Re: child benefits for Poles
 
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Originally Posted by blazey (Post 542898)
I have a question to put to you.

Not all soldiers in the British Army are actually british, there are men from all different nationalities. If two men, one british born, and one polish soldier, where both fighting as british soldiers where injured in battle, say they lost limbs and had to be brought back home, to Britain, would you think only the british born soldier is entitled to compensation and disability pay?

Because technically, the polish soldier would be working in the country just as any other polish worker, and then if injured he'd claim from our benefit system, which is 'claiming what is rightfully ours', just like the Polish workers who are claiming child benefit... which I should add is RIGHTFULLY theirs too.

So would you support a polish soldier then? Or would he be just as much a burden as these other workers?

the answer is No , because any person wearing the uniform of any country other than his own is a mercenary , for all the awe and veneration that the British hold for the Ghurkas they are in fact Mercenaries (national of a foriegn country ) the Poles and French who served so well in the Royal Air Force during the Battle of Britain (WW2 ) were in fact members of their own Govt. in exile forces seconded to the RAF and wore their own national patchs.

jaysay 09-03-2008 11:16

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I just wonder if there is any kind of child benefit in Poland or is that these people can claim when in ths country just becuse we do have it. I think i've mntioned before that I worked with a German many years ago who was claiming for children in Germany, this guy never sent a penny home. It seems that these EU laws which we have to adhere to hardly effect anybody else because we don't go to work in these countries

Bonnyboy 09-03-2008 12:04

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 543026)
I just wonder if there is any kind of child benefit in Poland or is that these people can claim when in ths country just becuse we do have it. I think i've mntioned before that I worked with a German many years ago who was claiming for children in Germany, this guy never sent a penny home. It seems that these EU laws which we have to adhere to hardly effect anybody else because we don't go to work in these countries

One of the links in post #26 - Some Poles 'claim benefit twice'- refers to benefits being paid both in the UK and in Poland, so yes, they have their own welfare system.


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