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I see the trial of Karen Matthews and Michael Donovan began this week.

Both defendants have accepted that they knew where Shannon was and that she was not missing.:(

They say that Shannon was drugged and tied to a roof beam by Donovan in a kidnap plot he had hatched with Karen Matthews. They were going to release her in Dewsbury market once the reward money had reached £50,000. Donovan would 'find' her and they would share the money.

How could they think so little of their child?

People like that are an another species to me. :mad:

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That poor poor child.

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OMG thats disgusting!

I hope they never get to see her again and she is looked after by someone who actually cares:(

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Words really do fail me, where do these people come from, they certainly don't come from this planet. The terms serialize and castrate come readily to mind

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Absolutely jaysay.

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How could they think so little of their own child?

Cos they are clearly not ' a full shilling' as my granny would have said.

The sad thing is they are so incapable of defining fact from fiction they follow the plot of a film they have seen

Very, very sad

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These creatures are of low intelligence but they knew exactly what they were doing. It was all down to greed and the chance to get something for nothing and, if a child was needed to achieve that, then they would - and did - exploit a child. Unfortunately there are a lot of mothers around like Karen Matthews, no doubt dragged up themselves and continuing the tradition, who think having children around is OK until they become a nuisance or a liability.

The sad thing is that Shannon will, most likely, be just like her mother in 10 years time. She may be fostered until she grows up but the damage has already been done.

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I hope that she recieves the love and stability that will mean otherwise.

It's not written in stone how we'll turn out.

I know people who had appalling childhoods, who've grown up to be decent members of society, and also people who had secure and loving homes, who've turned out to be complete waste of spaces.

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i can certainly agree with that, know quite a few meself, its terrible what the child went through, but some kids can be very resiliant, lets hope Shannon is one of em.

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the policeman said in court shannons mother was more interested in the ring tone on his phone rather the were abouts of her daughter,just blows my mind the lack of love these sort have for there own flesh and blood:mad:

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Its appalling.Very scary what people will do for money :(

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Unfortunately MK we live in a society were people want all the good things in life whilst putting in the least effort to obtain it, thats why we hear of so many scams today.:(

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Yes I saw this on the news last night and was absolutely disgusted, hopefully justice will be done

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But she knew the whereabouts of her daughter. She knew Shannon was safe and well (albeit a little sleepy).

If the general public can watch what was going on from news snippets and say "There's something a bit weird about this" then the police, who don't tell everything about their investigations, would certainly have taken note. It's behaviour like that from her mother that might have sent them down the "This child isn't loved: She may have run away" route.

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I wonder if the victim of this dastardly crime will testify in court? It should be interesting to read what she has to say.

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Personally I do hp[e that the child - and that is all she is - is not put through the ordeal of standing in court and giving evidence against her family.

With a lot of luck she will get good foster parents and this tragic event will be the making of her. In reality.....................................:(

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If she has to give evidence it will probable be through a video link polly

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Karen Matthews And Michael Donovan Guilty Of Kidnapping Shannon Matthews in Dewsbury Moor | UK News | Sky News

Karen Matthews and Michael Donovan have been found guilty of kidnap, false imprisonment and perverting the course of justice.

The hunt for Shannon cost the public 3.2 million pounds. :(

They will be sentenced later.

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This I am afraid will be another case, where they will only get a few years in prison ( if that)
and when they come out, we the public will have to pay for them to have a new identity and new life: watch this space.

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I wouldn't have thought they'd be given new identities but we shall see.

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the cost of a new identity is easily solved, NEVER let the scum out. if only.:rolleyes:

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It was said on the Jeremy Vine show today, that she is a 'marked woman' in Dewsbury. She will get a new identity, but that will do her no good, no one could forget that mug.

But Magpie, you are right, they will be given a paltry sentances of which they will serve only half. I just hope sombody gets her while she's inside.

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The issue is all the public money that’s been wasted on this low life: it will cost like wow amounts to keep the female dog inside… then shed loads when it gets out:

I think if they have been found guilty, they serve their time and then come out, under the same name and body that they went in with:

People like her will never change… and look at all the upset she’s given her kids… ( maybe now they are in care the circle will be broken ) but again I very much doubt it.

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You've got to remember magpie that in todays Britain the criminal has more rights than the victim, which is down to what Anthony Linton Blair said was his finest hour, namely signing up to the European Human Rights Act:(

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true but at least I can sound off on here ..... it makes me really mad :mad::mad::mad: oh and another one :mad:

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This woman is IMO the scum of the earth, what she did to her daughter is just not thought possible from a mother(she dosent deserve the title of mother )
I just hope that some justice comes out of this and they give her a heavy sentance, along with the lo lifes involved with her, and I hope Shannon never forgives her ever.
Hopefully she will be ripped to bits once inside , although doubtful because our money will be protecting her and keeping her safe and well looked after.(no justice at all really):rolleyes:

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It's outrageous she's been found guilty!

Weren't the jury informed that in the fake kidnapping of a child episode of Shameless, screened for weeks before Shannon's disappearance, there was a happy ending?

She should sue Channel 4.

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Glad she's not a member of Accy Web she would probably take you serious Rindi:rolleyes:

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Did anyone watch the Panorama programme on this last night, made me sick to the stomach. Apparently the poor kid had been drugged, not just while she was 'missing' but also over the last two years with a variety of substances including Tomazepan. The woman should be hung, drawn & quartered!

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*'for' weeks should read 'four' weeks.

;):eek::D

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Thats the trouble with you AccyMad your just to bloody nice:(

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Just read that Karen Matthews, is on twenty four hour guard, in Wakefield prison, she has 5 screws watching her back everywhere she goes, but she's in solitary most of the time. Seems there is a contract out on her, the other inmates want a piece of her that bad the price on her head is ten fags, in fact they have christened her Turkey because they say she won't last until Christmas, they must really like her in that nick, she deserves everything that comes her way

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Presumably the rest of the inmates are in there because they are all innocent ?

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irrelevant to me, what they are in for, if they Do her, good on em.

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Even crims draw the line under cruelty to kids, they might be in there for wrong doing, but even they think that child abuse is a no no:(

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Isnt being locked up when you have children a case of child abuse?

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not at all, i reckon she's in the best place as far as Shannon is concerned, the childs away from its 'mother' and she'll probably have a better life for it

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So what your saying polly is that mothers should have a get out of jail free card, I don't think so, mothers should think of the consequences before they break the law and if their crime warrants jail then so be it, its their own fault and no one else's

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I agree. That does seem rather skewed logic.

Would Myra Hindley have been spared jail if, God forbid, she'd had a child?

Anyway, I thought parents were supposed to have equal responsibility/rights?

Would some people think it 'abuse' for a child to be missing a parent, if it was the Dad banged up, and not the mother?

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some mother's should be locked up for having children.... full stop

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No, locking children up is child abuse.

Shannon was drugged, kidnapped and stashed away in a divan in the hope that this would get her mother £50,000. A scheme dreamt up by her mother.

That's child abuse and Karen Matthews more than deserves to be sent down.

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will people please stop quoting polly, that quote is starting to really pee me off now, i get angrier everytime i see it GRRRRRR!!! how pathetic

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ok I will quote you :) is that not the point of a message forum to chat and all that::)

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It was such a silly thing to say, people are bound to comment on it.....just like you did. :hidewall:

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yea you started it flashy :tongueout

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lol, magpie i agree with you ....what a stupid remark she put though, are people supposed to get away with child abuse and NOT get sent down just because they are parents?

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I think Polly's comment has been misinterpreted.

If I commit a crime against someone- serious enough to be locked up for it if caught- then there's a very strong chance it is premeditated. If I plan that crime despite having a child, then I'm risking him becoming a victim of the crime as well as my intended target. That dismissive attitude toward my responsibilities is a form of child abuse (in my very humble opinion).

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well as people are not mind readers, perhaps the comment, should have been qualified? i certainly viewed it the same as others, ya never can tell these days with all the do-gooders in life.:rolleyes:

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It is obvious that this lady is not fit to have children in her care.
The children have been taken away from her with good cause.
The child abuse that these children suffered was not of the the making of the authorities but of the mother.
She should never in my opinion be allowed to control or parent any child in the future.

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well said Roy

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Totally agree Roy, one of her old mates (she ain't any more) said that she had kids just to keep her in fags and beer, and that she was a very scheming woman and nobodies fool. One can only hope that by the time she gets out she is no longer able to have kids, but if she is steps should be taken to make sure she can't

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With hindsight it's all very well her former friends saying now what an unfit mother she was. Why didn't they do something about it before she was charged with kidnapping Shannon?

This woman must be quite a plausible actress, as not only did she take in her friends and neighbours, who supported the search, but also the media who were queueing up to interview her, when they thought she was the new Kate McCann.

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i was thinking that as well... i watched the doco and one of them was saying she was round at the house and someone asked if she (shannons mum) had a spare needle and she said yeah, i keep them stuck in the wallpaper :confused:

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Maybe her old mates so her as one of them, doing exactly what they were doing Rindi, until she actually pulled a stunt like that, then they couldn't distance themselves from her far enough

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I've found something which helps immensely with forums is a variation on doctors' Primum non nocere

First, assume no harm.

"Harm" might be malice, shrouded abuse, ignorance or some personal agenda; but if you read a post without the mindset that the author might be out to stir up trouble, your own response will be nicer. It could even work out that you don't not feel the need to respond at all.

If course, if that's not what Polly intended, and I'm the only one on AccyWeb who interpreted it as an assertion that any parent engaging in criminal activity is guilty of child abuse, then that makes me the wierdo...
:mosher:

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fair enough, who else read it your way?:confused:

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I don't think we'll get many responses to that, as the way someone interprets Polly's post says a lot about the way they look at the world...

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didn't expect many as the question was directed at you.:rolleyes: it also speaks volumes as to how you view the world.

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It would appears that great minds think alike cashy, especially on subjects like this, if people make sweeping statements and don't quantify them they must expect the response which was forthcoming;)

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I haven't read most of these posts, but was attracted to the thread heading through mis-reading it. Will some please let me know if there is ever a heading that says 'Stanley Matthews found alive.'

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He's playing center forward in a team with Elvis Presley in goal.
They were last seen in Blackpool

Retlaw

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Perhaps this might shed a little more light on what was meant.

To quote Polly...

'For some kids their mother going to prison could be a blessing in disguise.
Having work,ed with children for over 20 years I am sure some would get a much better chance in life if they were removed from their natural families.'

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...tml#post524686

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thats good, pleased about that, then perhaps the comment should have been quantified?:confused:

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It would be interesting.:rolleyes:

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Fair enough. I have no problems with my outlook.

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Cashy, she should have explained it better, we might be a lot of things on here but mind readers we are not;)